Scammed

[Morgan]

Scammed (Resolving)

Okay this is a long story so ill try and keep it short.
About 1 month ago i sold a name for $3k and i was looking for another business deal to invest in and i had this guy OdditySoftware on my msn who was looking for a 1/3 partner in SigRent.com which i jumped at sent the money right away.
I never heard from him until i filed a claim which then he said he had been away and he will have the site up the next day if i canceled the claim being a trust worthy guy i did.
That was 2 weeks ago and still no contact he comes to the forum every day as he has posts and shows online but he never reply's to my pm's or e-mails this has been going on 1 month and i am quite certain there isnt going to be a site.
I write this as i am looking for different options to get my money back maybe someone can get in contact with him and help me out.
Im only 15 and $1,000 usd around $1,200 Aud is quite alot of money to lose as thats around half a years work for me.
So i am asking for some help in recovering my funds.
Also i am trying to not use a credit card charge back if my parents find out i wont be able to do business online again.
Thanks for your time and hopefully you can help me out i am willing to offer $100 to who ever helps in recovering my money.

 

[domain4u]

Well a new turn. I personally thought it was fraud and i appologize for any comments i made to hurt oddity's reputation. Maybe sigrent missed the info he had to attend a confrence call, but as it stands i don't see how a backcharge of paypal would be ethical if what oddity says is correct and you didn't attend a voice confrence after being told!

I suggest you two take this matter via livechat and the mods delete this thread incase oddity's reputation gets damaged wrongfuly!

I can fully understand why sigrent rushed to post this, being only 15 and thought he has lost $1,000 panic + adrenaline Hope you resolve the issue but i suggest communication for both parties

 

[LeeRyder]

odd Apollo... can you try to reconcile the OP's assertation that no contact was established for a month or two as claimed?

That seems to be the divining rod right there. If there is a reasonable explanation for that, then so be it.. if not, the OP would be in the right.

however, expecting a 15yr old to understand conference calls, business meetings, the true costs and implications of business (save for sabre who we..i htink can all agree is an exception).. is outside the realm of being reasonable.

 

[She Unlimited]

Even if Sigrent misunderstood the terms etc, Perhaps and I am sure it is not a Namepros "Problem" so to speak, but this is the only avenue or venue for any of us to get advice etc.

The thead should not be deleted, but I am sure most of us here do not only read left to right, but up and down and right to left.


I think Odd should just contact him directly and set that up, if he does not reply to sigrents "emails" etc, than I have to raise an eyebrow out of curiosity too.

 

[equity78]

A CONTRACT WITH A 15 year old is not binding under the Laws of the US or Australia, and rep tarnished here would never use site or do business with and would advise anyone else not to. BAD IMO .

 

[LeeRyder]

lol equity.. i do business with sabre :P He's my host lol.

but again, i just paypal him monthly and never have any issues that and sabre is extremely mature (and has a cute mom) :D

 

[armstrong]

AND IT IS STILL NOT LEGAL TO ENTER INTO A CONTRACT WITH A 15 year old and rep tarnished here would never use site or do business with and would advise anyone else not to. BAD IMO .

There's a big difference between:

"It is not legal to enter into a contract with a 15 year old."

and

"A contract with a 15 year old is not legally binding."

The former implies an illegal/criminal offense, while the latter just renders the contract null and void. Which is it?

 

[She Unlimited]

Null and Void.

"Sorry Went To Law School"


LOL, not in practice though......

 

[LeeRyder]

hmm..I'd think it would depend on the circumstances. ie: did he know his age? what are the terms? if there are terms, are they as such that no resonable thinking adult would sign into it?

etc... but this doesnt sound "that" bad.. so I would think null and void as well unless someone can show otherwise?

 

[She Unlimited]

How does everyone feel in regards to him not replying here? Do you think it is just for privacy reasons, or worried that the thread may get out of hand?

I hope Sigrent lets us know if they have made contact since the PM was replied back to from one of the Admins here.


Looking in from the Outside, I would have thought it better for Odd to contact Sigrent "at least"?

 

[equity78]

Fair point Armstrong I will edit good point thank you

Well She you make a good point and from a legal stand point I think it is fair to say they have nothing because it is not binding to the 15 year old in this example.

 

[LeeRyder]

Not replying, imo.. doesnt look good. but you cant persecute/prosecute based on abscence or silence.. regardless of what it looks like.

he may just.. you know..want to not deal with the "crowd" so to speak in hopes the issue just dies off and gets settled.... points to both good and bad, so too hard to say.

 

[She Unlimited]

Yes, it is hard not to assume, but we have to for the benefit of the doubt.

I guess we will have to wait to hear from sigrent in hopes that they can come to some type of resolution, at least in my cases, life , personal it is better to come to a resoultion and both lose then to have a drawn out debate on who misunderstood who and do something fair.


Without details no one can say either way...

I wish Sigrent and all parties involved the best of luck as you can see, I think Nampros proves as a good mediator and for advice.

 

[ZuraX]

I had a friend that got ripped off and Paypal wouldnt help. He had the CC do a charge back for the amount. Paypal then froze his account that still had money in it.

If I ever have to do a chargeback I woudl empty my PP first....

 

[Morgan]

Still havent recieved any contact from him as of yet a will leave it a few more days then proceed with a charge back.

 

[Morgan]

Just wondering if anyone has gotten in contact with him?
This is what it has been like since the partnership started and he wrote there was a lack of communication on my behalf.
If not should i proceed with a charge back?

 

[.X.]

I would give it 7 days from the beginning of post here in good faith,Just MO,But it's not looking good,Oddity come forward and make this right with this young man!

 

[Morgan]

Okay i will hold off abit maybe for 4 more days but there hast been a response yet and he has been on numorous times through out this ordeal.
Maybe its worth sending to his e-mail at [email protected]

 

[LeeRyder]

absolutely, you've given him more than enough time. At this point, everything he is saying in pm to the mods (imo) is BS to either buy time or to dissolve the issue without having direct contact with you.

do the chargeback, and tell your father.. who may or may not proceed with any liability in the .AU courts against him.

enough time has passed wherein he should have made contact, in the very least... to say "whats up?".

I know you dont want your parents involved..but please trust us.. it is in your best interest. He is hiding for a reason, what that reason is I don't know.. but I can promise you that reason benefits only him and not you.

 

[.X.]

You know the more i think about,LeeRyder has an excellent point,And i have zero tolerance for scammers,I would proceed with the charge back now,I try to control myself and be logical,But scammers set me off,FILE ON HIM!!!!

 

[ZuraX]

You should have filed the charge back days ago...