Scammed by Network Solutions?

[James Rodman]

EDIT POST: not sure who the scammer is. looks like NS might be

 

[Raindrops]

no basically seller lists it as auction (premium one in this case). then i saw it and i lowballed him an offer to seeif he would budge and he did. then i paid and i applied the privacy option you have on there

Got it. So you send a PM with an offer, he agrees and either ends his premium auction (assuming it had no bids) and you use the offer feature, or he changes his auction to a BIN and you snatch it up and during the process there is a privacy setting you can check off.

Hmm, so Flippa and Kevin would know the behind the scenes stuff - be able to shed some light on ways to prevent this in the future, and why this user was banned.

 

[Raindrops]

$1800 purchase - $300 flippa fee + $440 sale price - $44 success fee - $18 PayPal fee = ($1722)

Yeah, it does seem like a ton of work to go through if you were just laundering a CC for a net gain of $78 bucks eh?

 

[DomainGist]

Yeah, it does seem like a ton of work to go through if you were just laundering a CC for a net gain of $78 bucks eh?

What if you'd purchase the domain from yourself for $1800 using that stolen credit card...

 

[James Rodman]

Yeah, it does seem like a ton of work to go through if you were just laundering a CC for a net gain of $78 bucks eh?

he lost $1700 not gained lol

 

[Ms Domainer]

I purchased a domain Lio.net from James on sept 2nd and this domain was removed from my account all of a sudden.
When I called Network solution then I was surprised to hear that domain is deleted from my account and is near New Ventures LLC and I was supposed to buy it form them.
I have opened a ticket an Network soution and will soon post it here all the updates
In short I was given a domain that was already expired one by Mr. Ertugrul aka James rodman

Ah, yes, New Ventures Services rears its ugly head once again.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if both parties are innocent and that the real culprits are NetSol and New Ventures.

Rather than explain here, just read my report on Scamful (no ads)

http://www.scamful.com/2014/07/warning-if-you-own-domain-names-avoid.html​

 

[DomainGist]

he lost $1700 not gained lol

He didn't lose $1800 if he'd used a stolen credit card to purchase, or purchased using his own money and done a chargeback.

 

[James Rodman]

He didn't lose $1800 if he'd used a stolen credit card to purchase, or purchased using his own money and done a chargeback.

so if he purchased using his own money how can he do chargeback and still get domain from namejet?

 

[DomainGist]

All you have to do to initiate a chargeback is say that the transaction was unauthorised.

He didn't have to do the chargeback until after he'd disposed of the domain.

So he could have purchased for $1800, sold for $440, and THEN done a chargeback to get his $1800 back claiming that the purchase was not authorised.

 

[James Rodman]

oh so he paid by credit card and applied for a chargeback with his bank?

 

[DomainGist]

oh so he paid by credit card and applied for a chargeback with his bank?

Well its hypothetical of course, how do I know what has actually happened.

As far as I can see the ball is fully in your court now, have you emailed flippa like Kevin suggested?

Either of these things look to be true:

1). You have purchased a domain from flippa which was advertised as having 10 months left on registration, when it had in fact expired, meaning that you need a refund from flippa and you should refund Chetan.

Or...

2) Flippa can provide you with evidence that there were 10 months left on registration, in which case you can put the ball back in Chetan's court and he needs to get back in touch with his registrar.

You are the one that needs to take the appropriate action now by emailing flippa.... pointlessly discussing hypotheticals isn't going to move this issue forward.

 

[domainerfella]

I brought up MYXL.com in another thread.

Mods: https://www.namepros.com/threads/bido-myxl-com-for-sale-auction.878353/#post-4998199

It was sold on Sedo at a huge loss according to namebio right after it was purchased on namejet. I was told that the buyer didn't pay...

Here is @forge explaining what happened with MYXL.com https://www.namepros.com/threads/th...iscussion-thread.358387/page-867#post-5007720

Looks like Namejet/NS repossessed a domain that wasn't paid for, or was paid for fraudulently, in both cases.

@Beezy I request you to tag Michelle on this so she will be alerted to investigate this person and possibly ban him.

 

[James Rodman]

Well its hypothetical of course, how do I know what has actually happened.

As far as I can see the ball is fully in your court now, have you emailed flippa like Kevin suggested?

Either of these things look to be true:

1). You have purchased a domain from flippa which was advertised as having 10 months left on registration, when it had in fact expired, meaning that you need a refund from flippa and you should refund Chetan.

Or...

2) Flippa can provide you with evidence that there were 10 months left on registration, in which case you can put the ball back in Chetan's court and he needs to get back in touch with his registrar.

You are the one that needs to take the appropriate action now by emailing flippa.... pointlessly discussing hypotheticals isn't going to move this issue forward.

yes i have. waiting on a reply thank you for your input so far

 

[James Rodman]

@Beezy I request you to tag Michelle on this so she will be alerted to investigate this person and possibly ban him.

i pmed him but he hasnt been active in so long. lets see if he replies

 

[SirDrago]

So is this the guy's namepros account? https://www.namepros.com/members/jackcodee.981669/

Business account... For a day and 3 post.
I wonder if there was any issues after payment or if their payment was the same here as it was on namejet,flippa etc...

 

[James Rodman]

Business account... For a day and 3 post.
I wonder if there was any issues after payment or if their payment was the same here as it was on namejet,flippa etc...

he told me he didnt have paypal. probably paid using CC for flippa fees.

 

[DomainGist]

Business account... For a day and 3 post.
I wonder if there was any issues after payment or if their payment was the same here as it was on namejet,flippa etc...

Maybe he went on a week long meth binge and on his comedown realised he'd spent the whole week and most of his life savings on LLL.net domains..... so tried to get his money back and when that didn't work concocted a story to his bank about getting his credit card stolen :D

 

[forge]

So what is the timeline as far as when Chetan filed the dispute?

I ask because I find it mildly curious that Chetan was still "flaunting" his ownership of lio.net as of mid-day yesterday:

Premium LLLL.net countdown 2015

 

[Raindrops]

Business account... For a day and 3 post.
I wonder if there was any issues after payment or if their payment was the same here as it was on namejet,flippa etc...

It's possible that owner bought the domain from the same character that sold this one, and the user has no clue about any of this.

Things happen fast, that's for sure. As an example:

Jackbrown22 registered at Flippa on Sept. 1st, listed a premium auction for lio.net, went to a private sale, Danny Ort/James Rodman bought it, received the domain, and then offered it for sale here at 4:59AM EST the same day.

Really quick movement.

 

[SirDrago]

he told me he didnt have paypal. probably paid using CC for flippa fees.

Well apparently this person isn't accustomed to telling the truth. Perhaps the mods here can verify the payment method for this account and work with Kevin at flippa to see if criminal charges should be filed against this individual. I'm sure you don't want this to happen to anyone else right?

 

[Nick]

... see if criminal charges should be filed against this individual.

Unless this guy has a pattern of doing this with 10s of thousands of dollars, it'll never happen. $440 is isn't felony neighborhood and law enforcement don't give a care about internet crime.