Scammed by Network Solutions?

James Rodman · Sep 29, 2015

EDIT POST: not sure who the scammer is. looks like NS might be

Beezy · Sep 29, 2015

PugDomains said:
After sitting on the fence throughout I'm going to dump and run with (probably) my final post....

JackCodee has a business account, despite only being active for 2 days and making just 3 posts.

You are allowed an unlimited number of business accounts on namepros.

You can also have a personal account + 1 or more business accounts.

Am I the only one wondering who JackCodee is, and whether he is one of the two parties involved in this dispute?

Enough said.

Well the mods for sure have https://www.namepros.com/members/jackcodee.981669/ 's paypal email address, probably IP which they can compare to other logins, etc.

They are pros, and I have full faith in them to make any connections that can be made.

@Eric Lyon @Michelle

DomainGist · Sep 29, 2015

Beezy said:
Well the mods for sure have https://www.namepros.com/members/jackcodee.981669/ 's paypal email address, probably IP which they can compare to other logins, etc.

They are pros, and I have full faith in them to make any connections that can be made.

@Eric Lyon @Michelle

They may also decide that a transaction which took place outside of namepros is none of their business.

SirDrago · Sep 29, 2015

Beezy said:
Well the mods for sure have https://www.namepros.com/members/jackcodee.981669/ 's paypal email address, probably IP which they can compare to other logins, etc.

They are pros, and I have full faith in them to make any connections that can be made.

@Eric Lyon @Michelle

Connect the dots with @FlippaDomains

James Rodman · Sep 29, 2015

Raindrops said:
Correction. Flippa has no right to allow or disallow you sharing a private dialogue you had with a scammer.

Yes, we know your screenshot is from the 1st.

There are a number of things that look odd about this story, your explanations, your various aliases, your domain sales.....etc, that would readily be moot if you could verify there actually was a "jackbrown22" at Flippa - which considering you used Flippa escrow, and talked at deal about money and transfers, you could readily prove.

I find it odd someone would use Flippa escrow and a bank account tied to them for $78, if they were using stolen CC or some such

ok i will post it but are you ready to read? its a long convo

Chetan · Sep 29, 2015

I am waiting for it

Beezy · Sep 29, 2015

Wait, all of these transactions took place on September 1st but @jackCodee joined on September 7th?

James Rodman · Sep 29, 2015

Tue, 1 Sep 2015 21:50:39 AEST
jackBrown22:
your welcome sir
and thank you for your payment
Tue, 1 Sep 2015 21:47:17 AEST
Danny ort:
payment made. thank you
Tue, 1 Sep 2015 21:43:50 AEST
jackBrown22:
for now no
Tue, 1 Sep 2015 21:43:05 AEST
Danny ort:
no its ok. You have other domains for sale? i m making payment just got home
Tue, 1 Sep 2015 21:40:49 AEST
jackBrown22:
yes
do you need prove or something
Tue, 1 Sep 2015 21:39:20 AEST
jackBrown22:
i hope ..
Tue, 1 Sep 2015 21:39:15 AEST
Danny ort:
so you bought this for $1800?
Tue, 1 Sep 2015 21:37:58 AEST
jackBrown22:
yes i offer it on sedo
https://sedo.com/search/searchresult.php4?keyword=lio.net&safe_search=1&language=us
but i only recieve 20 $
i sell it cause need money and you was here
Tue, 1 Sep 2015 21:33:54 AEST
Danny ort:
yes i am gonna be home soon and i will make payment. im messaging on phone now so i want to pay from my laptop. Dont worry man flippa is safe place to do business.
Tue, 1 Sep 2015 21:32:24 AEST
jackBrown22:
i request payment did you receive it
Tue, 1 Sep 2015 21:31:47 AEST
Danny ort:
did you buy this for $1800 on namejet?
Tue, 1 Sep 2015 21:30:23 AEST
jackBrown22:
ok no problem it's complicated here
Tue, 1 Sep 2015 21:26:38 AEST
jackBrown22:
i buy it from namejet 2 month ago
Tue, 1 Sep 2015 21:22:36 AEST
Danny ort:
dont wory i am gonna pay haha. I cant leave feedback until after one week of sale date so i will leave feedback next week and you can leave me one too.

One more question before i pay. I saw this domain was sold on namejet recently. Were you the buyer?
Tue, 1 Sep 2015 21:19:12 AEST
jackBrown22:
you have my domain now
please leave feedback and pay me (ofcource)
Tue, 1 Sep 2015 21:18:03 AEST
Danny ort:
oh okay. when did you buy this domain and where?
Tue, 1 Sep 2015 21:17:05 AEST
jackBrown22:
i mean Network Solutions lock transfer domain untill 28 this month
so i give you my acc
yes change the password
these secrity question
1) sun man
2) ali taleb
3) aman
Tue, 1 Sep 2015 21:13:05 AEST
Danny ort:
what did they put on domain? i didnt understand
Tue, 1 Sep 2015 21:03:19 AEST
Danny ort:
they put what on domain?
Tue, 1 Sep 2015 21:02:42 AEST
Danny ort:
ok i think i got it. i changed password too. ok?
Tue, 1 Sep 2015 21:01:36 AEST
jackBrown22:
yes
so you have my account i do that because they put gab month for transfer domain
Tue, 1 Sep 2015 20:55:04 AEST
jackBrown22:
just change acc settings and change phone number
Tue, 1 Sep 2015 20:54:44 AEST
Danny ort:
oh ok. so can i have your account? i will change password
Tue, 1 Sep 2015 20:53:28 AEST
jackBrown22:
no you are the owner man

Network Solutions
Account Update Complete

Dear Network Solutions® Customer,

We received your request and have changed your Network Solutions email address for User ID: 55674582 (Osman Abdulhakim).

Your new email address is: [email protected]

If you believe someone requested this change without your consent, please contact Customer Service at https://www.networksolutions.com/contact/index.jsp.

If you would like to order additional services or to update your account, please visit us online at http://www.networksolutions.com.

Thank you for choosing Network Solutions®. We are committed to providing you with the solutions, services, and support to help you succeed online.
Tue, 1 Sep 2015 20:51:05 AEST
Danny ort:
i requested transfer to my own network solutions account. did you get email?
Tue, 1 Sep 2015 20:45:50 AEST
jackBrown22:
ok if you have any question let me know
Tue, 1 Sep 2015 20:44:35 AEST
Danny ort:
ok wait i think i got it. let me check again
Tue, 1 Sep 2015 20:41:59 AEST
jackBrown22:
yes it's not my first time
but its my first time here flippa.com
Tue, 1 Sep 2015 20:40:22 AEST
jackBrown22:
55674582
1992199254411Mai
Tue, 1 Sep 2015 20:38:58 AEST
Danny ort:
have you ever transferred domain on network solutions before?
Tue, 1 Sep 2015 20:36:50 AEST
Danny ort:
user id and password is wrong. cant login
Tue, 1 Sep 2015 20:35:44 AEST
jackBrown22:
what problem
you face problem to login
Tue, 1 Sep 2015 20:33:27 AEST
Danny ort:
sorry have to receive domain first as i cant send money since you are new user and dont have and reviews yet.
Tue, 1 Sep 2015 20:31:44 AEST
jackBrown22:
please let me know how can receive payment and did transaction completed
Tue, 1 Sep 2015 20:31:28 AEST
Danny ort:
user id and pasword dont work. also i got email that some domains got transfer-locked. what is that?
Tue, 1 Sep 2015 20:29:43 AEST
jackBrown22:
55674582
check your mail sir
and change your account settings
Tue, 1 Sep 2015 20:27:59 AEST
Danny ort:
whats user id?
Tue, 1 Sep 2015 20:27:18 AEST
jackBrown22:
password:1992199254411Mai
security questions
sun man
ali taleb
aman
Tue, 1 Sep 2015 20:25:11 AEST
jackBrown22:
Network Solutions
Account Update Complete

Dear Network Solutions® Customer,

We received your request and have changed your Network Solutions email address for User ID: 55674582 (Osman Abdulhakim).

Your new email address is: [email protected]

If you believe someone requested this change without your consent, please contact Customer Service at https://www.networksolutions.com/contact/index.jsp.

If you would like to order additional services or to update your account, please visit us online at http://www.networksolutions.com.

Thank you for choosing Network Solutions®. We are committed to providing you with the solutions, services, and support to help you succeed online.

Sincerely,

Network Solutions® Customer Support
http://www.networksolutions.com/help/index.jsp
Tue, 1 Sep 2015 20:24:41 AEST
Danny ort:
no i need domain transferred to my account. email change doesnt do anything
Tue, 1 Sep 2015 20:24:08 AEST
jackBrown22:
you wil receive mail
Tue, 1 Sep 2015 20:22:09 AEST
Danny ort:
i initiate transfer at network solutions. im reading now. right?
Tue, 1 Sep 2015 20:19:17 AEST
Danny ort:
i will need domain transferred to me. i am not renting. i paid to buy it. i think transfers are available within netwokrk solutiions
Tue, 1 Sep 2015 20:16:43 AEST
Danny ort:
so what do i do after you transfer to my email? where does domain go
Tue, 1 Sep 2015 20:16:10 AEST
jackBrown22:
no dont
Tue, 1 Sep 2015 20:15:17 AEST
Danny ort:
do i need to make account there? never used netwrok solutions before
Tue, 1 Sep 2015 20:15:10 AEST
jackBrown22:
i will transfer domain [email protected]
Tue, 1 Sep 2015 20:12:44 AEST
jackBrown22:
networksolutions.com
i need it to transfer your domain
Tue, 1 Sep 2015 20:10:25 AEST
Danny ort:
wait is domain at godaddy? why do u need email?
Tue, 1 Sep 2015 20:09:37 AEST
jackBrown22:
what your email
Tue, 1 Sep 2015 20:09:27 AEST
Danny ort:
you dont like paypal or you never used it? We can do instant with paypal but flippa escrow will take 3-5 for you to get payment
Tue, 1 Sep 2015 20:09:02 AEST
jackBrown22:
thank you
Tue, 1 Sep 2015 20:09:02 AEST
jackBrown22:
thank you
1st Sep
Your $440 bid was accepted
Tue, 1 Sep 2015 20:06:54 AEST
Danny ort:
nevermind. i clicked BIN. waiting for you to accept
Tue, 1 Sep 2015 20:05:58 AEST
jackBrown22:
sorry i don't do paypal
is there any payment option listed
1st Sep
You placed a $440 bid
Tue, 1 Sep 2015 20:02:20 AEST
Danny ort:
can you put paypal as option too
Tue, 1 Sep 2015 20:01:11 AEST
jackBrown22:
done wait for you
Tue, 1 Sep 2015 19:59:01 AEST
Danny ort:
dont cancel it. at the top right you can set a buy it now price. Set buy it now price at $440.
Tue, 1 Sep 2015 19:58:00 AEST
jackBrown22:
how can cancle my auction
Tue, 1 Sep 2015 19:53:26 AEST
Danny ort:
alright put $440 as bin and i will click it
Tue, 1 Sep 2015 19:52:44 AEST
jackBrown22:
ok
Tue, 1 Sep 2015 19:43:07 AEST
Danny ort:
I will pay for 10% fee as well so $440 i wil give you
Tue, 1 Sep 2015 19:40:32 AEST
Danny ort:
no they only take 10% here dont worry
Tue, 1 Sep 2015 19:39:23 AEST
jackBrown22:
this my first time on flippa
if you pay 400 is they took %20
cause on sedo they took alot
Tue, 1 Sep 2015 19:32:45 AEST
Danny ort:
sorry man auctions are too long or me as i cant have certain amount of money tied up for that period of time. thats why i like directly messaging the owners woth my offer so if price is higher i can move on to other names. $400 is fair price for lll.net but if too low then its your domain so i cant argue.
Tue, 1 Sep 2015 19:13:44 AEST
jackBrown22:
you can join my auctions
1st Sep
A $20 bid was accepted
1st Sep
A $5 bid was accepted
Tue, 1 Sep 2015 11:52:56 AEST
Danny ort:
willing to offer $400 to buy this now

James Rodman · Sep 29, 2015

start reading from the bottom as thats where it starts

Chetan · Sep 29, 2015

Beezy said:
Wait, all of these transactions took place on September 1st but @jackCodee joined on September 7th?

Show attachment 16682

He joined NP on 7th

DomainGist · Sep 29, 2015

James Rodman said:
no way. his location on flippa says : USA and i live in canada and he lives in india

Are you getting your many aliases muddled up? Jack Codee is a namepros account.

James Rodman · Sep 29, 2015

PugDomains said:
Are you getting your many aliases muddled up? Jack Codee is a namepros account, I've not seen any flippa account in that name. Besides, since when has somebody needed to verify their address on flippa, I verified via SMS.

his name on flippa is jackbrown. from what i see jackcodee is his name on here. on flippa his location says USA...... You re telling me to read and you re not the one reading

Nick · Sep 29, 2015

lol Osman Abdulhakim - another name to add to the list now

Abdullah Abdullah · Sep 29, 2015

I have a question.... How can James get his money back from Flippa? I have done many transactions at Flippa and they make it clear that once you, as buyer , release the payment there is no way you can get it back because by releasing you are acknowledging that you received the assets and it appears James did receive the assets so I am not sure Flippa can be made liable and asked for a refund.

Beezy · Sep 29, 2015

James Rodman said:
Tue, 1 Sep 2015 21:50:39 AEST
jackBrown22:
your welcome sir
and thank you for your payment

Tue, 1 Sep 2015 21:47:17 AEST
Danny ort:
payment made. thank you

Tue, 1 Sep 2015 21:43:50 AEST
jackBrown22:
for now no

Tue, 1 Sep 2015 21:43:05 AEST
Danny ort:
no its ok. You have other domains for sale? i m making payment just got home

Tue, 1 Sep 2015 21:40:49 AEST
jackBrown22:
yes
do you need prove or something

Tue, 1 Sep 2015 21:39:20 AEST
jackBrown22:
i hope ..

Tue, 1 Sep 2015 21:39:15 AEST
Danny ort:
so you bought this for $1800?

Tue, 1 Sep 2015 21:37:58 AEST
jackBrown22:
yes i offer it on sedo
https://sedo.com/search/searchresult.php4?keyword=lio.net&safe_search=1&language=us
but i only recieve 20 $
i sell it cause need money and you was here

Tue, 1 Sep 2015 21:33:54 AEST
Danny ort:
yes i am gonna be home soon and i will make payment. im messaging on phone now so i want to pay from my laptop. Dont worry man flippa is safe place to do business.

Tue, 1 Sep 2015 21:32:24 AEST
jackBrown22:
i request payment did you receive it

Tue, 1 Sep 2015 21:31:47 AEST
Danny ort:
did you buy this for $1800 on namejet?

Tue, 1 Sep 2015 21:30:23 AEST
jackBrown22:
ok no problem it's complicated here

Tue, 1 Sep 2015 21:26:38 AEST
jackBrown22:
i buy it from namejet 2 month ago

Tue, 1 Sep 2015 21:22:36 AEST
Danny ort:
dont wory i am gonna pay haha. I cant leave feedback until after one week of sale date so i will leave feedback next week and you can leave me one too.

One more question before i pay. I saw this domain was sold on namejet recently. Were you the buyer?

Tue, 1 Sep 2015 21:19:12 AEST
jackBrown22:
you have my domain now
please leave feedback and pay me (ofcource)

Tue, 1 Sep 2015 21:18:03 AEST
Danny ort:
oh okay. when did you buy this domain and where?

Tue, 1 Sep 2015 21:17:05 AEST
jackBrown22:
i mean Network Solutions lock transfer domain untill 28 this month
so i give you my acc
yes change the password
these secrity question
1) sun man
2) ali taleb
3) aman

Tue, 1 Sep 2015 21:13:05 AEST
Danny ort:
what did they put on domain? i didnt understand

Tue, 1 Sep 2015 21:03:19 AEST
Danny ort:
they put what on domain?

Tue, 1 Sep 2015 21:02:42 AEST
Danny ort:
ok i think i got it. i changed password too. ok?

Tue, 1 Sep 2015 21:01:36 AEST
jackBrown22:
yes
so you have my account i do that because they put gab month for transfer domain

Tue, 1 Sep 2015 20:55:04 AEST
jackBrown22:
just change acc settings and change phone number

Tue, 1 Sep 2015 20:54:44 AEST
Danny ort:
oh ok. so can i have your account? i will change password

Tue, 1 Sep 2015 20:53:28 AEST
jackBrown22:
no you are the owner man

Network Solutions
Account Update Complete

Dear Network Solutions® Customer,

We received your request and have changed your Network Solutions email address for User ID: 55674582 (Osman Abdulhakim).

Your new email address is: [email protected]

If you believe someone requested this change without your consent, please contact Customer Service at https://www.networksolutions.com/contact/index.jsp.

If you would like to order additional services or to update your account, please visit us online at http://www.networksolutions.com.

Thank you for choosing Network Solutions®. We are committed to providing you with the solutions, services, and support to help you succeed online.

Tue, 1 Sep 2015 20:51:05 AEST
Danny ort:
i requested transfer to my own network solutions account. did you get email?

Tue, 1 Sep 2015 20:45:50 AEST
jackBrown22:
ok if you have any question let me know

Tue, 1 Sep 2015 20:44:35 AEST
Danny ort:
ok wait i think i got it. let me check again

Tue, 1 Sep 2015 20:41:59 AEST
jackBrown22:
yes it's not my first time
but its my first time here flippa.com

Tue, 1 Sep 2015 20:40:22 AEST
jackBrown22:
55674582
1992199254411Mai

Tue, 1 Sep 2015 20:38:58 AEST
Danny ort:
have you ever transferred domain on network solutions before?

Tue, 1 Sep 2015 20:36:50 AEST
Danny ort:
user id and password is wrong. cant login

Tue, 1 Sep 2015 20:35:44 AEST
jackBrown22:
what problem
you face problem to login

Tue, 1 Sep 2015 20:33:27 AEST
Danny ort:
sorry have to receive domain first as i cant send money since you are new user and dont have and reviews yet.

Tue, 1 Sep 2015 20:31:44 AEST
jackBrown22:
please let me know how can receive payment and did transaction completed

Tue, 1 Sep 2015 20:31:28 AEST
Danny ort:
user id and pasword dont work. also i got email that some domains got transfer-locked. what is that?

Tue, 1 Sep 2015 20:29:43 AEST
jackBrown22:
55674582
check your mail sir
and change your account settings

Tue, 1 Sep 2015 20:27:59 AEST
Danny ort:
whats user id?

Tue, 1 Sep 2015 20:27:18 AEST
jackBrown22:
password:1992199254411Mai
security questions
sun man
ali taleb
aman

Tue, 1 Sep 2015 20:25:11 AEST
jackBrown22:
Network Solutions
Account Update Complete

Dear Network Solutions® Customer,

We received your request and have changed your Network Solutions email address for User ID: 55674582 (Osman Abdulhakim).

Your new email address is: [email protected]

If you believe someone requested this change without your consent, please contact Customer Service at https://www.networksolutions.com/contact/index.jsp.

If you would like to order additional services or to update your account, please visit us online at http://www.networksolutions.com.

Thank you for choosing Network Solutions®. We are committed to providing you with the solutions, services, and support to help you succeed online.

Sincerely,

Network Solutions® Customer Support
http://www.networksolutions.com/help/index.jsp

Tue, 1 Sep 2015 20:24:41 AEST
Danny ort:
no i need domain transferred to my account. email change doesnt do anything

Tue, 1 Sep 2015 20:24:08 AEST
jackBrown22:
you wil receive mail

Tue, 1 Sep 2015 20:22:09 AEST
Danny ort:
i initiate transfer at network solutions. im reading now. right?

Tue, 1 Sep 2015 20:19:17 AEST
Danny ort:
i will need domain transferred to me. i am not renting. i paid to buy it. i think transfers are available within netwokrk solutiions

Tue, 1 Sep 2015 20:16:43 AEST
Danny ort:
so what do i do after you transfer to my email? where does domain go

Tue, 1 Sep 2015 20:16:10 AEST
jackBrown22:
no dont

Tue, 1 Sep 2015 20:15:17 AEST
Danny ort:
do i need to make account there? never used netwrok solutions before

Tue, 1 Sep 2015 20:15:10 AEST
jackBrown22:
i will transfer domain [email protected]

Tue, 1 Sep 2015 20:12:44 AEST
jackBrown22:
networksolutions.com
i need it to transfer your domain

Tue, 1 Sep 2015 20:10:25 AEST
Danny ort:
wait is domain at godaddy? why do u need email?

Tue, 1 Sep 2015 20:09:37 AEST
jackBrown22:
what your email

Tue, 1 Sep 2015 20:09:27 AEST
Danny ort:
you dont like paypal or you never used it? We can do instant with paypal but flippa escrow will take 3-5 for you to get payment

Tue, 1 Sep 2015 20:09:02 AEST
jackBrown22:
thank you

Tue, 1 Sep 2015 20:09:02 AEST
jackBrown22:
thank you

1st Sep
Your $440 bid was accepted

Tue, 1 Sep 2015 20:06:54 AEST
Danny ort:
nevermind. i clicked BIN. waiting for you to accept

Tue, 1 Sep 2015 20:05:58 AEST
jackBrown22:
sorry i don't do paypal
is there any payment option listed

1st Sep
You placed a $440 bid

Tue, 1 Sep 2015 20:02:20 AEST
Danny ort:
can you put paypal as option too

Tue, 1 Sep 2015 20:01:11 AEST
jackBrown22:
done wait for you

Tue, 1 Sep 2015 19:59:01 AEST
Danny ort:
dont cancel it. at the top right you can set a buy it now price. Set buy it now price at $440.

Tue, 1 Sep 2015 19:58:00 AEST
jackBrown22:
how can cancle my auction

Tue, 1 Sep 2015 19:53:26 AEST
Danny ort:
alright put $440 as bin and i will click it

Tue, 1 Sep 2015 19:52:44 AEST
jackBrown22:
ok

Tue, 1 Sep 2015 19:43:07 AEST
Danny ort:
I will pay for 10% fee as well so $440 i wil give you

Tue, 1 Sep 2015 19:40:32 AEST
Danny ort:
no they only take 10% here dont worry

Tue, 1 Sep 2015 19:39:23 AEST
jackBrown22:
this my first time on flippa
if you pay 400 is they took %20
cause on sedo they took alot

Tue, 1 Sep 2015 19:32:45 AEST
Danny ort:
sorry man auctions are too long or me as i cant have certain amount of money tied up for that period of time. thats why i like directly messaging the owners woth my offer so if price is higher i can move on to other names. $400 is fair price for lll.net but if too low then its your domain so i cant argue.

Tue, 1 Sep 2015 19:13:44 AEST
jackBrown22:
you can join my auctions

1st Sep
A $20 bid was accepted

1st Sep
A $5 bid was accepted

Tue, 1 Sep 2015 11:52:56 AEST
Danny ort:
willing to offer $400 to buy this now

Wow where to start with the red flags...

James Rodman · Sep 29, 2015

Beezy said:
Wow where to start with the red flags...

i know him giving me his accout might be a red flag but after that i transferred to my own NS account so i didnt think it was a problem at that moment as the transfer worked.

DomainGist · Sep 29, 2015

I think its time to give chetan his refund.

James Rodman · Sep 29, 2015

PugDomains said:
I think its time to give chetan his refund.

so i am the "scammer" by your conclusion?

rocky123 · Sep 29, 2015

Few Hours back MindBlowing.com got sold @GoDaddy.

Currently, MindBlowing.net is trending on this thread at NP. keep Bidding

Beezy · Sep 29, 2015

James Rodman said:
so i am the "scammer" by your conclusion?

Well, do we have the FULL STORY?

You seem to keep withholding pieces of information that keep slowly coming out.

Chetan's beef is with you. I think he should get his money back.

Your beef is with the seller on Flippa. You should be after Flippa to get the information of the person they dispersed the money to and get them to do whatever they can in their power to recover the money.

Unless there is more to this story?

Raindrops · Sep 29, 2015

Tue, 1 Sep 2015 21:50:39 AEST
jackBrown22:
your welcome sir
and thank you for your payment

The time stamp is 9:50 PM Australian time, which is 14 hours ahead of your North American EST. So the time of the payment received was 7:50AM your time. Yet, the offer to sell here on NP was made three hours prior at 4:59AM EST.

I give you credit for providing the textline, Danny/James - I apologize for accusing you of being complicit in the matter.

I ain't gonna say anything about you offering a domain for sale here you didn't own yet.

James Rodman · Sep 29, 2015

Raindrops said:
Tue, 1 Sep 2015 21:50:39 AEST
jackBrown22:
your welcome sir
and thank you for your payment

The time stamp is 9:50 PM Australian time, which is 14 hours ahead of your North American EST. So the time of the payment received was 7:50AM your time. Yet, the offer to sell here on NP was made three hours prior at 4:59AM EST.

I give you credit for providing the textline, Danny/James - I apologize for accusing you of being complicit in the matter. that time was when i made the payment he gave me the domain beforehand for some reason as he probably didnt know the process. i didnt have to pay him after he gave me the domain but obviously im not a scammer as some of you may think

I ain't gonna say anything about you offering a domain for sale here you didn't own yet.

i sold domain when i got it how else did i transfer to the buyer..... which was immediate. 9.50 was the time i made payment. he transferred domain to me before that as he probably didnt know the flippa process if you read what he says.

James Rodman · Sep 29, 2015

Beezy said:
Well, do we have the FULL STORY?

You seem to keep withholding pieces of information that keep slowly coming out.

Chetan's beef is with you. I think he should get his money back.

Your beef is with the seller on Flippa. You should be after Flippa to get the information of the person they dispersed the money to and get them to do whatever they can in their power to recover the money.

Unless there is more to this story?

that is all i have. so was this domain expired or did i get scammed?what do you think?

DomainGist · Sep 29, 2015

James Rodman said:
so i am the "scammer" by your conclusion?

I don't think you have intentionally set out to scam, but I'd say that there is a good chance that chetan doesn't have his domain as a result of your actions, and that he doesn't have what he paid for.

Do you think you should be $1000+ in profit from this transaction?

Do you still have access to this account? Because you see that link right there in the email? The one where the original account holder can claim the account right back?

How do you know that the login details were from an account which was owned by that seller? They could have been obtain from phishing or keylogging.

I'm sure I'm not the only domainer who has just read that chat transcript and observed the fact that you are happy to be sitting on $1000+ of chetan's money and decided that they'd simply never, ever, do business with you.

Do I think you are a scammer? No, a liability perhaps.

Do I think you should have $1000+ of chetan's money in your paypal account? No, I don't.

I think you should at the bare minimum have offered him the profit back as a starting point (sale price minus $440, until you resolve with flippa if possible).

Raindrops · Sep 29, 2015

James Rodman said:
i sold domain when i got it how else did i transfer to the buyer..... which was immediate

Must be the odd time stamps then. Because your payment was made shortly before 7:50 AM your time, but your post here offering it for sale was made at 4:59AM your time. Probably a time stamp issue.

James Rodman · Sep 29, 2015

PugDomains said:
I don't think you have intentionally set out to scam, but I'd say that there is a good chance that chetan doesn't have his domain as a result of your actions, and that he doesn't have what he paid for.

Do you think you should be $1360 in profit from this transaction?

Do you still have access to this account? Because you see that link right there in the email?

How do you know that the login details were from an account which was owned by that seller? They could have been obtain from phishing or keylogging.

I'm sure I'm not the only domainer who has just read that chat transcript and observed the fact that you are happy to be sitting on $1800 of chetan's money and decided that they'd simply never, ever, do business with you.

Do I think you are a scammer? No, a liability perhaps.

Do I think you should have $1800 of chetan's money in your paypal account? No, I don't.

chetan didnt pay me $1800 actually it was much lower than that. i bought this for $440 so i settled for a lower price $1000. you are right i probably caused this if i was the one who got scammed by that guy. i have no problm giving cheatn his refund as i said before. but is it 100% true that i got scammed and ns didnt steal it?

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