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I'm newbie in domaining and I reached this after many years of struggling in what they say "making money from internet marketing" which till now I don't believe although I watched a lot of courses and trainings and trainers show proofs of their money made by them, After many years of investing a lot of money and time in general Internet Marketing and domains, I'm out of money.

But let us get back to my new discovery of Domaining industry since 3 months, I read a lot and watched few courses, I bought till now about 30 domains, tried to sell any of them, but no way.

The bad thing that I didn't sell any one of them and NO MONEY at all. I need to sell even one domain, I need to make one sale, I need to make few hundreds to continue in this domaining.

So My question is, what is fastest way to sell a domain with a descent money in return or even a little???
I thought of to offer all my 30 domains here or any where else, hoping may be one domain will interest any of domainers her, should I do this or it's a bad idea?

So, please help with my domains before I QUIT

Thanks for your time, appreciate your supportive inputs.
 
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You probably need to adjust your expectations. This is not a get rich quick business.
It takes hard work and dedication like anything else.

If you are having a hard time selling your domains it is normally one of these two issues -

1.) Your domains are not that good. No one wants to buy bad domains.
2.) Your prices are too high.

If you just want to sell them, you can post them on Namepros in an auction starting at $1 and see where it goes.

Brad
 
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Based on your writing, you probably need to be very careful about hand registering domains. Hand registering good domains is not easy, especially if you are trying to register domains in english and if english is not your first language. I see alot of domains that are in english but don't make sense and are just junk.

Now, what you should know is that buying domain names with the intent of selling them for a profit is not easy. You really need to know what buyers are buying. You need to understand how to find the best deals when you are registering names. There are many factors you should research before committing to a domain registration.

Of course, if you have lots of money you don't need to be as careful, but from what you have said, that is not the case.

You should probably just assume that the 30 domains you have will not bring you anything. This way, if you do manage to sell some, it will be more than you expected based on the quality of the names. 30 names at best cost you about $300 to register. So, maybe you've lost $300.

I hope the names you have are actually decent and have some value, even $1. Otherwise, learn from your mistake of buying before you really knew what you were doing.

It happens.
 
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The problem I immediately see with your domains is that you see too small. Example "Maria Hair Salon" .. who would buy that domain?? Only Maria Hair Salon.

You have to buy domains that could fit a lot of businesses. Not one specific local store. That is not the way to go. You will never sell a domain doing that.

Stay in [.com] ... stop registering .us/.shop/.top .... stay in .com
No longer then 12 characters (1 or 2 words).
No funky stuff like a "Z" at the end instead of an "S".

To start, stay in pronounceable 4L.com or 2-keyword.com. For keywords, make sure you visit NameBio first to see if the words do sell or not. You don't want to buy keywords that don't sell.

Exemple a 2-keyword starting with "Best" has better chances to sell, you will see many of these on NameBio.
 
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I have a suggestion: don't buy domains that you couldn't use in real life. If you don't have a vision for each domain you buy, a practical use, a business purpose - it's unlikely anybody else will.
Be very demanding. Don't buy pigeon shit just because it's available for a few bucks. Don't buy a domain that you wouldn't put on a business card.
Don't...
 
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Also, domaining is not a job you quit. It's investing, acquisitions and sales. All investing in anything comes with some level of risk. Be very careful not to invest your grocery money in domain names. That would be a very bad idea.
 
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I think it was wise of you to change your strategy to buying expired .com only. Don't register any more .top, .host, .shop, or .us -- it's money down the drain for all of those.

If you wanted to sell domains by contacting possible end users, I think these two are your best bets: FloridaCosmeticDoctor.com and RubyDeveloper.org.

SocialMediaMonitor.org also appeals to me, because it seems like a good fit with the .org tld.

All the rest, I'd cut my losses and drop or sell them for a few peanuts.

I know it sucks to have domains that you can't sell, but keep in mind you're gaining good experience and getting advice that will help you down the line. Good luck and don't quit!
 
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Appreciate all your inputs, but if I can repeat a question in a previous reply about Flippa, How do you see the sold names in Flippa which do not make any sense for me as per domaining rules.

The majority of Flippa sales are real (although there can be exceptions), and prices there are often even below the market level, especially for .com domains. And there is no such thing as "domaining rules".

From what you generally write, it appears to me like you are not ready to invest in domains yet and need more learning for a few months. Still, if you really need to experiment with hand-registering:
1. Register for $1-2, for example by coupons or in Fasthosts.
2. Only .coms for now. Only!
3. Length matters. 2-word names are generally way better that 3 words. Shorter names are better.
4. Search volume does not matter too much unless it is big (over 20,000 and preferably more). Do not buy names just because they have 1,000-5,000 search volume - the advice to buy them is outdated and comes from times when internet search worked differently.
5. Expired domain lists are scanned daily by experienced domainers. Anything decent is picked by dropcatch service before it touches the ground, and anything half-decent gets hand-registered in minutes after it drops. So keep your expectations low because - even after applying filters - you may need to scan 10,000+ names or more to pick 1 name that has escaped all other domainers. And you would need to recognize it, of course. Hand-registration of expired names does not bring profit unless you are very, very good at it. Consider using cheaper dropcatch, or buying at closeouts or on forums.

More generally, think about the customer. You need to find names to sell to a company or to a startup for $1,000+. Think why they would pick your name and not all other names on the market. Industry keywords, probably?

For every 100 super-good hand-registered names, priced at end-user prices, you will sell yearly around 2. Maybe 1, maybe 3, maybe 0. So do your maths and statistics. Consider the renewal costs. Domaining is hard and is getting harder. Most people lose money in the first year, many in the second year.
 
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You should be able to do outbound and get at least 300-500 apiece for these two

DallasArthritisDoctor.com
FloridaCosmeticDoctor.com

I would stay away from random gTLDs until you make some .com sales. Stick with geo's that you know have at least a page or two of buyers and then move on to other niche's.

Don't end three word domains with Z

InternetMarketingOfferz.com

Don't make something a plural when the singular version is correct

ClicksPress.com

Make sure you spell the Geo correctly. Salina is a tiny town in Kansas while Salinas is a much better match in California

SalinaFootDoctor.com

Pizza shops won't spend the type of money that you think even if you do have the exact match of their business name.

DonCorleonePizza.com

Names that people will spell ten different ways don't register. Ask someone how to spell Pharaoh and you will probably get ten different answers.

PharaohsLife.com

If you want to buy 4 letter .us domains then register the one's that end in A, I, C, O, E. Association, Inc, Incorporated, Company, Corp, Organization, Enterprise. Many company names are three words plus Association, Inc, Company, Corp, Organization or Enterprise.

Tamr.us
Vrom.us
Vahm.us
Wrld.us
 
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This domain stuff is a very tough game and not for everybody. It takes a ton of reading through these threads. One thing that helped me was reading the completed domain sales. I tried this back in early 2014 and totally sucked at it and never sold a domain.
So, in January I decided to try again. The first thing I wanted to do was learn what domains sold. I went to page 1 of completed domain sales and just started reading. I am now at almost 400 pages of previous sales and I have sold 9 domains that were all reg fee.
I also look at Namebio every day to see sales.
Once you learn what to look for the process does get easier so hang in there and keep reading and learning.
 
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Consider:

1) The higher the price, the harder to sell.

2) Whatever you are doing, you will first need a passion in doing it. Try first building a website based on your interest/hobby on one domain name. Then you will know what to do after, and how to pursue in the road of domain names.

3) Once a domainer, forever a domainer. You breathe domain names. You eat domain names. You drink domain names. You learn but never give up.

4) Do your research first, do not infringe other peoples rights, unless you are authorized or have an agreement in doing so (e.g. affiliate/partnership). Trademark, copyright etc and produce your own content. Make your own graphics, buy website templates and include their marks, or pay extra to have the marks removed etc.

5) You are doing great. Because you have doubts, and you are finding your own light.

Peace.
 
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DallasArthritisDoctor.com it's a $200-$300 name if you do some outbound, I would ask $400 at first
SamsTreeServices.com is a $100-$200 name , I would ask $325 at first

The non .com names are worth nothing in my opinion, and the rest of .com names you own I would try to sell for $50-$100 (MariaHairSalon etc)...
You need to stop buying domains and READ, READ, READ.
 
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Hello SamDam,

I want to thank you for starting what has turned into an outstanding, insightful, and all around informative thread.
And I want to thank the NP Community.

SamDam, here is the kicker.
I'd be willing to bet that I'm not the only 10+ year member that has learned something new from the advice given by the members in this thread.
We never stop learning. It's the little tricks here and there that make the difference.

Don't quit. Lick your wounds. Put away the credit card for awhile. Continue to read and learn how this business works.
You have been offered a wealth of information from this thread already.
Use it wisely. Take your time. Rome wasn't built in a day.

Another thing, and I'm not trying to embarrass you or anything, but being a non native English speaker makes it harder when it comes to joining words.
There are many non native English speaking members of NamePros can help you with this.
All you have to do is ask. Someone will step up.

Good Luck.

Peace,
Cyberian
 
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You would have been so much better off spending that $300 on just one good domain. I advise you to spend the next 6 months just reading this forum without registering any more domains.
 
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Advertising is the only medium you can control. You can't control any aftermarket. You can correct or manipulate (not good) your advertising skill and attract more bidders walking through the noisy street.

Flippa - from our analysis for Q1 2017, 92.6% of sales are mid-low $XXX or loos $X.

In the beginning, your mind is focused on
$xxx.xxx
later on
$xx.xxx
$x.xxx
$xxx
$xx
I Quit

Boost (reputation) your Brand name (business) value with strategic long term planning and increase your personal value. To increase your personal value, you need to expand your mind knowledge and skill base and "Belief" (that will feed your "hunger" for knowledge).

which do not make any sense

There is a difference between "potential" and "value", "speculation" and "prediction", "trend" and "sale".

Kind regards
 
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Your domains are way too specific and not really good options for local domains. I will explain a few below so you hopefully learn from it. Others explained better criteria.

InternetMarketingOfferz.com

What hurts this domain is a "Z" at the end. Don't buy made up stuff just yet. True, there are domains that are made up and brandables BUT since you just started you need to develop an eye for them. Stay away from them for now. What also hurts this domains is that it is 3 keywords. Stick to 2 words for now to maximize value. Better keywords: InternetMarketing.com, MarketingOffers.com, InternetMarketingAdvice.com, InternetMarketingCourse.com

Valued.host
What hurts this domain is the .host extension which are harder to sell unless is is a GREAT keyword. Better keywords with this extension would be: fast.host vps.host dedicated.host cheap.host. Stick to .com

PharaohsLife.com
This one is okay but not very commercial. There are only 1,810 results in Google for the keywords. I can't think of any businesses who would sell products or services based on "Pharaohs Life". If you have to do mental gymnastics by saying a business might could sell products or services then it's probably too narrow of a niche and you need to pass. We don't want maybe domains. We want domains that have the maximum commercial value.

SaveMarriageGuidance.com
This one is okay but the keywords are odd. If someone is looking to save their marriage I do not think they are likely to use these keywords. It only has 3 results in Google and there are no results on Google Trends: https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=Save Marriage Guidance. Better keywords might be: MarriageGuidance.com, MarriageCounseling.com, SaveMyMarriage.com, MarriageTherapist.com

ClicksPress.com
What does "clicks press" mean? It doesn't sound like a natural word usuage.

WomanRed.top
Same here. What does "woman red" or "woman red top" mean? It's not the natural ususage. Do you mean redwomanstop?

SalinaFootDoctor.com
"Salina Foot Doctor" - Way too specific. How many Foot Doctors could there be in Salina? How many of those are likely to buy this domain? It's going to be hard to sell this.

Xedo.us, iWire.us, iKid.us, Tamr.us, Vrom.us, Vahm.us, Wrld.us, ZipLN.com
These domains don't make much sense. They are brandable but not good brandables. Stay away from domains like this.

Hope this helps.
 
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don't renew them buy 1 4l.com instead
 
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I'm newbie in domaining

But let us get back to my new discovery of Domaining industry since 3 months, I read a lot and watched few courses, I bought till now about 30 domains, tried to sell any of them, but no way.

So, please help with my domains before I QUIT

Thanks for your time, appreciate your supportive inputs.

Art of domaining takes time. Most people try it and quit in few months or 1,2 years.
This global business is highly competitive. Keep learning, discuss and start with few sales.
I am learning too.
Good luck.
 
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Seriously??? Dude..... you need to quit now!!

I don't mean to disrespect you or anything but domaining is speculative which means you need to own many domains for every one you sell. Then you need to carefully consider when and where you are going to market your domains.

All this takes time, and from the sounds of it you don't have any.

Post your domains in auction, sell what you can, lick your wounds and be done with it.

Again... sorry to be blunt, but I will give you honest advice.
 
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Having seen the advice in this thread alone by some very very experienced domainers you could do worse than re read this thread every so often

If you have bought domains for just the three months that means it will cost you nothing to wait the remaining 9 months to wait and see if any domains produce enquiries but as mentioned above there are a couple that could return a profit and many that may not but when the renewals are due re read this thread before renewing some of your portfolio

But most domainers have bought domains and wondered why on earth did they buy this or that domain but over time your portfolio will evolve and look nothing like it does now but it will only happen if you give your portfolio the time and attention it needs

But to be good at domaining you are in the right place here on np where any questions you have about domaining can be answered by experienced domainers that have experienced what you are experiencing with your portfolio and know how improve it for you and the best bit is their advice is totally free which can't be bad
 
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Ok, here's some wisdom I have gathered over the years. I don't class myself as a pro, but I've read a lot. You need to use my info here and what others have given and decide yourself if it's useful.
Use all advice to figure out the market for yourself in your own way! If you don't learn it yourself your own way then you'll be forever asking others "why this" and "what that" ;)

in Flippa, if you check Just Sold domains, you will notice domains with no meaning or rules of valuable sold for few hundreds, or even thousands

I see sometimes sales of .net & .io and others with many thousands if just check DNjournal and Flippa

Now consider carefully how many domains which do not sell. Are sat in auction listings for years upon years, don't sell and are let to expire.
Millions and millions, and their owners are too looking at these 4 and 5 figure sales and sat waiting and hoping their name is next. But it's just not going to happen. The percentage of total domains sold vs how many are available is tiny. And you have to look at that too.

Think of the lottery. People say "but someone has to win it, why not me", because there has to be tens of millions of people who lose for the one or few to win. And when you are "investing" good money on assets (domain names) then you don't want to be with the tens of millions with "hope" and high risk like the lottery ticket, you want to be sure you're going to sell names, and for good profit.

To do this, you need names which people want. This is the absolute golden rule - if no-one wants your name then it's impossible to sell. If very few people want your name, then it's unlikely to sell as you have to get them to your name among millions of others across various marketplaces etc.


Initially you should let experience dictate what you buy. As you are new, you shouldn't spend more than $100 or a bit more until you are sure you know what you buy is going to sell for at least a little more. Because you stand to lose less given you are likely to pick a name even priced at $100 that simply won't sell, or will takes years.
That said, honestly, I don't think you should buy anything for some time as the names you bought are not going to sell, sorry. You'll look back on this as many people do, and think "yeah, why did I buy those names lol".

So, how do you get a general idea of what names are worth? You have to look at many many many sales, from 6 figures down to 2 figures, and gather this info and paint a picture of it all in your mind.
This allows you to weed out and forget those which sold for $30,000 which you cannot understand why (it happens) and the ones which sell for $500 which were surely worth much more.
You can then with the remaining knowledge see a realistic overall value of the different names - two word, one word, categories, industries, etc.

Essentially, with the odd and obscure sales out of the picture, what remains are real sales and absolutely therefore what the values were. Yes on another day the sale price could have been different, but there's nothing you can do about that, just learn what things actually sell for. NOT what people want them to sell for based on marketplace list prices!



Concentrate on basic names and ones which people in 'general' and business will want to buy, for example: "[KillerKeyword]Online.com", and not low potential like "SallysHairSalon.com".
Not only is the latter so unlikely to sell, Sally won't likely have more than double figures to fork out, and likely won't understand the point or need to do so for her domain name when they're on her cards and 90% of her trade comes from people local passing by etc.

Kate hit the nail on the head - think about who would use the name, so are there many businesses in this category, is it local or global, is the industry the name relates to a profitable one?
Importantly, how many businesses are likely to be fighting over the name?
What could the name be used for?

If at any point with any of the above questions (and more) do you stop and think "urmm" then it's likely the name is not so valuable.

consider what your approach is and pros and cons.
  1. Buy 3 names at $100 each that seem likely to sell for $300 or a little more on a better or the right marketplace. - Best case you make $500 or more profit selling all 3 - bad case you sell one for $300 and lost and made nothing - worst case but unlikely if chosen wisely, you lose $300
  2. Buy 30 rubbish names for $10 reg fee that are likely to never sell - Best case you sell 4 or 5 for low to mid $xx and lose $150 - worst and likely case given bad names is you you lose $300

Also, consider the ones in DNJournal carefully. If it sold for 4 or 5 figures, while there are the odd exceptions, they are likely good names and perhaps you just didn't see the reason for their value.


Good luck - read, learn, read some more, and when you realise domaining is a business and a vocation just like selling stocks and shares (yes there is a lot of similarity) then you might just start making money at it ;)
 
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Buy a good looking 4l .com
For below 250 usd

And set it for sale at 888 usd
That may sell in 1 to 5 years

Good luck

Ps
When you set it at 6450 usd
It may sell within 1 to 5 years
 
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If you have a steady source of income, good
- then be patient. Read read read and then buy names that people (fellow investors or end-users) will buy
- do not spend all your money (savings) buying domains
- do not borrow any money to buy domains, especially names that no-one will buy

If you do not have a steady source of income
- quit domaining (you will most likely spend more money / time)
- find steady source of income

Assuming you have spent less than 500 & now you are ready to quit after three months then this might not be your gig. You need to spend money to make money. I don't think there is a way around it.
For example, to build a portfolio of decent of 4L names you will require way more than 500, even just to acquire three or four decent names
 
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It sounds like you are getting better as time goes on. A lot of us improve over time so there is hope for you. The problem (or blessing) is that you're out of money.

As some others have said, spending more time reading NamePros may be the best use of your time for awhile.
 
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As mentioned above by others but simply put

A well used phrase

The system works if you work the system

If you don't develop your own system for buying and selling domains you'll never be able to work your own system

And or

If you try to work someone else's system you'll need to learn their system or remember their system in order to work their system

But

If you develop your own system and find out what works for you and find and know your own market (system) you will be able to work your own system easily over time

Everybody has their own system or their own niche or tld extension or industry sector they like or know something about that they can relate to their customers about and no two are the same well not often

But only by buying domains that don't sell does a person realise that I'm not going to buy that type of domain again as that was a waste of money etc or you make a couple of sales with similar domains in a profession or industry sector and then think that was easy I can sell those domains all day long

Only you will know what works for you

But patience and time are the best investment tools in any investment eg stockmarket or property or domains Ok so you can get lucky on the stockmarket but property doubles in value over time

The multiples are there in domain names but it takes time or knowing what to buy

But what do I know - I know nothing lol
 
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Hey there,

Before we can give any advice on how and where to sell your domains, could you share a few examples of what you bought and own?
 
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