discuss .Online Domains - Why 3,634 and counting

[ThatNameGuy]

NamePros member @DirkS has requested that I provide an explanation for why I've registered over 3,600 .online domains in the last six months, so here goes;

First and foremost I'm a visionary. I've started dozens of business in my life. I'm 73 years old, and I started my first business while still in college in 1970. Sure I could just be saying this, but if you have doubts I would strongly suggest that you check me out.

Having learned about this industry just over three years ago I've found the .com extension for most new business names to be both unavailable and unaffordable. I've learned that if I were to start a new business today it's unlikely the name I choose for my business would be available or affordable.

Most important, like zip codes and area codes there are literally hundreds/thousands of alternatives, and .Online just so happens to be one of the alternatives. What initially attracted me to the .Online extension was when NamesCon Online (aka NamesCon.com) made the decision to have Radix (aka Radix.online) be a sponsor. Radix then created the domain NamesCon.online to compliment/match NamesCon.com.

When I realized how the .online extension matched up with names like Reservations.online, Shopping.online, Learning.online and Domains.online, I just knew i was on to something Note that names like Reservations.com, Shopping.com, Learning.com and Domains.com are not only "unavailable", even if they were available, they'd most likely be "unaffordable"

Ironically about the time I noticed the .online extension, Go Daddy and Radix partnered and made .online domains available for a first time annual registration fee of .99 cents, and an annual re-registration of just 49.99 thereafter.

I've spent over a thousand hours in the last six months buying mostly one and two word .online domains, so if you were to add my time to the approximate $4,200 I've paid Go Daddy, I have over $20,000 invested in my portfolio of 3,634 domains.

My critics will say things like, you'll never be able to afford to renew all your domains at 49.99 each to which I have a twofold answer; #1 i don't need to renew a single domain and #2 whose to say the renewal fee isn't negotiable....as a businessperson I've learned that pretty much everything is negotiable.

Of importance to me is the fact that "if" my .online domains were .com domains my portfolio would be "valued" at over twenty million dollars. Yes, that's $20,000,000 or 20M

Now is where the rubber meets the road meaning, how do I plan to sell these domains? I just started listing them with the likes of Go Daddy where my current pricing ranges from a low of $199 to $999 and I'm looking to have an annual renewal of $99.....remember, everything is negotiable.

I plan to experiment with financing, leasing/renting and licensing my domains. I also plan to form a "users group" where end users actually have an interest in promoting the .online extension to the world.

Few domains and especially .online domains will sell themselves Thus I plan on having an "outbound" sales/marketing team who share my vision to make .online both available and affordable.

Finally, I owe a bit of gratitude to the monopoly Verisign for confirming my suspicions about the nature of the .com beast. While the beast is slowly dying, alternative solutions are ready, willing and able to take over.

Thank you!

 

[ThatNameGuy]

Lets just take this thread to it's end game Already. And as per all previous Episodes

In 6 months time, Baloney would have done nothing about his great 'pie-in-the-sky' idea of convincing the business world of the merit of online extension. Renewal costs will see him drop 99% of the domains. As always it will be somebody else's fault for not coming through with some great partnership or support that was in the making.

Isn't this about the third or fourth time we've been through this same loop. On the up-side this guy has shown time and time again that he has to have something to believe in, no-matter what its merits or should I say lack of.

So good luck man do what ever keeps you happy, If spending thousands of dollars each year keeps you thinking of yourself as a domain player, then play on. I'm sure many of us have pursued loosing streaks at a similar cost. Usually offset by the successes for most of us by NOT having all our eggs in one basket at a time and keeping the spread balanced.

Revisiting....are you new here? Maybe so because it was "Bulloney" and not Baloney
How is it you and your friends feel so threatened? I noticed you don't identify yourself, and you know what I've said in the past about anonymity.online

And as for you and the rest of the herd remember this; PassionSells whether it be .com or .online

 

[Charybdis]

Isn't this about the third or fourth time we've been through this same loop.

Next up: .Web Domains - why 3,634 and counting☺

 

[bmugford]

Next up: .Web Domains - why 3,634 and counting☺

It is funny to me that some people are actually hyped about .web. It is basically exactly like .NET, with no track record. .NET is leagues above .online in every metric.

Brad

 

[ThatNameGuy]

Next up: .Web Domains - why 3,634 and counting☺

so you're new too....go back and read what I just said about anonymity Share with me who you are, and I may just accommodate your question.

 

[Peak.Domains]

It was hard for me to accept at first but now I've been convinced that the future is online.

The future is .online.

TheFutureIs.online

 

[Charybdis]

It was hard for me to accept at first but now I've been convinced that the future is online.

The future is .online.

TheFutureIs.online

I think you are not up-to-date with the current trends.

The present is online.

The present is .online.

ThePresentIs.online

 

[Peak.Domains]

I think you are not up-to-date with the current trends.

The present is online.

The present is .online.

ThePresentIs.online

True, great points and examples.

In fact...

ThePastIs.online

Now, whoever controls these domains can control the past, the present, and the future.... online.

 

[Future Sensors]

Now, whoever controls these domains can control the past, the present, and the future.... online.

So if what you say is indeed correct, the person who registers all .online domains is actually in charge.

Then, is it actually wise to leave this to just 1 person?

 

[TECHNO111]

Yes there is online banking, but 2 words .online is not worth more than the $0.99 that you paid for.
Because there is an abundance of available 2 Words domains in many extensions.
What makes a domain valuable is how rare the domain is.

If you asked me before starting investing in .online I would advice you to stick with 1 word .online domains only.

If you look at smart and sucessful nTLD investors you will find that they focus on one word domains and they do not stick only with one extension, they try to find combinations of word+extension that fit together like (green.energy, happy.life, luxury.estate... and so on).

I don't like to discuss a lot with someone who don't like to listen to advice.. so I will not comment anymore here and please do whatever you like.

Hi I have newly joined . I am a willing learner all the way, I need to earn and build a future in this domain investing/ flipping/selling . And Have been learning since 2-3 months , also have invested maybe in 40-50 domains . Need your complete guidance , in buying and selling . I have yet to clock a sale . Thanks

 

[bmugford]

Hi I have newly joined . I am a willing learner all the way, I need to earn and build a future in this domain investing/ flipping/selling . And Have been learning since 2-3 months , also have invested maybe in 40-50 domains . Need your complete guidance , in buying and selling . I have yet to clock a sale . Thanks

Here is some free advice... If you want to make money, don't invest in .online.

Brad

 

[BrandPlease]

The most Important advice to consider, if you are still on the fence, is what @bmugford just said:

Here is some free advice... If you want to make money, don't invest in .online.

 

[Shackleton]

Thanks for the tips punk I really didn't know what you meant by blockchain domains scoring "the knockout blow", but after a little research i registered the following;

UnstoppableDomains.online
UnstoppableTeam.online and
UnstoppableTalent.com

With regards to the "high renewal fees" for .online. My renewal fee for .online is $29.99, and even that's negotiable. I really fell in love with the non keyword "unstoppable", and since I view myself as unstoppable, I felt the need to register the domain UnstoppableTalent.com because it was both available and affordable. If it wasn't available or affordable, i would have registered UnstoppableTalent.online. And since it's just a buck, I may skip lunch (save $10) and buy it anyway.

Thanks again punk

I guess your research about the above-mentioned domains didn't discover that "Unstoppable domains" is an exact match for a trademark with the USPTO.

 

[bmugford]

I guess your research about the above-mentioned domains didn't discover that "Unstoppable domains" is an exact match for a trademark with the USPTO.

https://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4810:8k32j7.2.1

Word Mark UNSTOPPABLE DOMAINS
Goods and Services IC 036. US 100 101 102. G & S: Bill payment services provided through a website; Bill payment services provided via a blockchain and other distributed ledger technology; Cryptocurrency exchange services; Cryptocurrency payment processing; Cryptocurrency trading services; Merchant services, namely, payment transaction processing services; Payment processing services in the field of blockchain-based and blockchain-facilitated payments; Commodities exchange services; Commodity exchange; Currency transfer services; Electronic transfer of funds; Electronic transfer of money; Electronic transfers of money; Electronic commerce payment services, namely, establishing funded accounts used to purchase goods and services on the Internet; Electronic funds transfer; Electronic funds transfer by telecommunications; Financial services, namely, providing electronic transfer of a virtual currency for use by members of an on-line community via a global computer network; Financial transaction services, namely, providing secure commercial transactions and payment options using a mobile device at a point of sale; Maintaining escrow accounts for the on-line exchange of blockchain-based named-entity rights, cryptocurrencies, and virtual assets, through the use of blockchain technology; Monetary exchange; Money transfer; On-line escrow service for exchange of services
IC 038. US 100 101 104. G & S: Electronic messaging; Electronic messaging services; Electronic transmission of messages; Electronic, electric, and digital transmission of voice, data, images, signals, and messages; On-line services, namely, message sending; Delivery of messages by electronic transmission; Providing on-line forums for transmission of messages among computer users; Providing internet chat rooms; Providing internet chatrooms; Providing on-line chat rooms for social networking; Providing virtual chat rooms established via text messaging

IC 042. US 100 101. G & S: Developing and updating computer software; Developing computer software; Developing customized software for others; Developing customized software in the field of blockchain-based named-entity resolution for others; Development of software for secure network operations; Software development and product development consulting in the field of blockchain-based named-entity resolution; Software development and product development in the field of blockchain-based named-entity resolution; Software development in the field of blockchain-based named-entity resolution; Software design and development; Application service provider, namely, hosting, managing, developing, analyzing, and maintaining applications, software and web sites of others in the field of blockchain technology; Computer software development; Computer software development and computer programming development for others; Computer software development in the field of mobile applications; Computer software development in the field of blockchain-based named-entity resolution; Computer software development, computer programming and maintenance of computer software for blockchain-based named-entity resolution; Computer services, namely, providing search platforms to allow users to resolve named entities through the use of a blockchain and utilize affiliated software services for cryptocurrency payments and named-entity resolution; Consulting services in the field of software as a service (SAAS); Consulting services in the field of the design of computer software for blockchain-based named-entity resolution; Custom design and development of computer software for blockchain-based named-entity resolution; Design and development of software for instant messaging; Design and development of computer software; Design and development of computer software for blockchain-based named-entity resolution; Design and development of on-line computer software systems; Design, development and implementation of software; Design, development, and consulting services related thereto in the field of computer software for blockchain-based named-entity resolution; Design, development, and implementation of software for blockchain-based named-entity resolution; Design, development, installation and maintenance of computer software; Design, maintenance, development and updating of computer software; Internet-based application service provider, namely, hosting, managing, developing, analyzing, and maintaining the code, applications, and software for web sites of others; Providing on-line non-downloadable computer software for use as a cryptocurrency wallet; Technology specification, namely, analyzing technology requirements and developing recommendations for the computer software and systems and other technology needed to meet those requirements, in the field of blockchain-based named-entity resolution

IC 045. US 100 101. G & S: Domain name registration services; Registration of domain names for identification of users on a global computer network

Standard Characters Claimed
Mark Drawing Code (4) STANDARD CHARACTER MARK
Serial Number 88276844
Filing Date January 25, 2019
Current Basis 1B
Original Filing Basis 1A;1B
Published for Opposition July 9, 2019
Owner (APPLICANT) Unstoppable Domains, Inc. CORPORATION DELAWARE 8465 W Sahara Ave, Ste 111 Unit #1017 Las Vegas NEVADA 89117
Attorney of Record Dennis S. Prahl
Disclaimer NO CLAIM IS MADE TO THE EXCLUSIVE RIGHT TO USE "DOMAINS" APART FROM THE MARK AS SHOWN
Type of Mark SERVICE MARK
Register PRINCIPAL
Live/Dead Indicator LIVE

 

[bmugford]

This thread was started 2+ months ago. I noticed you have not posted since early July.

Any sales to report?

Brad

 

[Samer]

This thread was started 2+ months ago. I noticed you have not posted since early July.

Any sales to report?

Brad

Godaddy bas acquired .Online

dot Online CEO: “We thought with the MMX acquisition, prime opportunity sell inferior ext.”

Next day:

Godaddy ACQUIRES .ONLINE extension.

Relax people, it’s satire! Another word for joke!

Samer

 

[scithe]

rijbewijs.online recently went for $1713 which apparently is "Driver's license" in dutch. 30 extensions taken.

 

[ThatNameGuy]

rijbewijs.online recently went for $1713 which apparently is "Driver's license" in dutch. 30 extensions taken.

Thanks scithe....i haven't posted here for a while, but at last count i own 4,322 .ONLINE domains with my "out of pocket" cost being a little over $5,000.

"IF" the .online domains i own were .com's they'd be valued at over 25M dollars, yes that's twenty five million dollars. I put "IF" in quotes because a golfing buddy of mine is fond of using the expression, "If my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle" whenever I'd say "if" I'd just made that last put I'd have won my match

I've now had enough personal experience with the likes of Go Daddy (Radix the Registry) where they sold me a domain for $1 (Reservations.Online) where I took possession of it (have a receipt for it) and they took/stole it back within 72 hours claiming they made a mistake. Now here's where it gets interesting....they actually tried to resell it back to me for $500,000. I've met with a couple of lawyers, but since learned from them and my friend Rob Monster of Epik that the most I could probably get is 20K. So while I may not be able to win a big judgment against them and Radix, I certainly can, and will use it when marketing .Online domains to potential end users. The one thing I can assure you is that I'm no more afraid of them than they are afraid of me, but their fu*k up is my my oyster

Finally, i'll leave you with this quote from Andrew Allemann of the Domain Name Wire;

"you're foolish if you think there aren't opportunities in non-.com domains."

 

[bmugford]

Thanks scithe....i haven't posted here for a while, but at last count i own 4,322 .ONLINE domains with my "out of pocket" cost being a little over $5,000.

"IF" the .online domains i own were .com's they'd be valued at over 25M dollars, yes that's twenty five million dollars. I put "IF" in quotes because a golfing buddy of mine is fond of using the expression, "If my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle" whenever I'd say "if" I'd just made that last put I'd have won my match

I've now had enough personal experience with the likes of Go Daddy (Radix the Registry) where they sold me a domain for $1 (Reservations.Online) where I took possession of it (have a receipt for it) and they took/stole it back within 72 hours claiming they made a mistake. Now here's where it gets interesting....they actually tried to resell it back to me for $500,000. I've met with a couple of lawyers, but since learned from them and my friend Rob Monster of Epik that the most I could probably get is 20K. So while I may not be able to win a big judgment against them and Radix, I certainly can, and will use it when marketing .Online domains to potential end users. The one thing I can assure you is that I'm no more afraid of them than they are afraid of me, but their fu*k up is my my oyster

Finally, i'll leave you with this quote from Andrew Allemann of the Domain Name Wire;

"you're foolish if you think there aren't opportunities in non-.com domains."

Welcome back. Any sales to report?

Brad

 

[ThatNameGuy]

Welcome back. Any sales to report?

Brad

As an industry whistleblower why would I report any sales to you

"you're foolish if you think there aren't opportunities in non-.com domains."

 

[NickB]

.......

As an industry whistleblower why would I report any sales to you

"you're foolish if you think there aren't opportunities in non-.com domains."

A yes or No is not disclosing anything apart from you have actually sold something .online

Good to see you back though