discuss .Online Domains - Why 3,634 and counting

[ThatNameGuy]

NamePros member @DirkS has requested that I provide an explanation for why I've registered over 3,600 .online domains in the last six months, so here goes;

First and foremost I'm a visionary. I've started dozens of business in my life. I'm 73 years old, and I started my first business while still in college in 1970. Sure I could just be saying this, but if you have doubts I would strongly suggest that you check me out.

Having learned about this industry just over three years ago I've found the .com extension for most new business names to be both unavailable and unaffordable. I've learned that if I were to start a new business today it's unlikely the name I choose for my business would be available or affordable.

Most important, like zip codes and area codes there are literally hundreds/thousands of alternatives, and .Online just so happens to be one of the alternatives. What initially attracted me to the .Online extension was when NamesCon Online (aka NamesCon.com) made the decision to have Radix (aka Radix.online) be a sponsor. Radix then created the domain NamesCon.online to compliment/match NamesCon.com.

When I realized how the .online extension matched up with names like Reservations.online, Shopping.online, Learning.online and Domains.online, I just knew i was on to something Note that names like Reservations.com, Shopping.com, Learning.com and Domains.com are not only "unavailable", even if they were available, they'd most likely be "unaffordable"

Ironically about the time I noticed the .online extension, Go Daddy and Radix partnered and made .online domains available for a first time annual registration fee of .99 cents, and an annual re-registration of just 49.99 thereafter.

I've spent over a thousand hours in the last six months buying mostly one and two word .online domains, so if you were to add my time to the approximate $4,200 I've paid Go Daddy, I have over $20,000 invested in my portfolio of 3,634 domains.

My critics will say things like, you'll never be able to afford to renew all your domains at 49.99 each to which I have a twofold answer; #1 i don't need to renew a single domain and #2 whose to say the renewal fee isn't negotiable....as a businessperson I've learned that pretty much everything is negotiable.

Of importance to me is the fact that "if" my .online domains were .com domains my portfolio would be "valued" at over twenty million dollars. Yes, that's $20,000,000 or 20M

Now is where the rubber meets the road meaning, how do I plan to sell these domains? I just started listing them with the likes of Go Daddy where my current pricing ranges from a low of $199 to $999 and I'm looking to have an annual renewal of $99.....remember, everything is negotiable.

I plan to experiment with financing, leasing/renting and licensing my domains. I also plan to form a "users group" where end users actually have an interest in promoting the .online extension to the world.

Few domains and especially .online domains will sell themselves Thus I plan on having an "outbound" sales/marketing team who share my vision to make .online both available and affordable.

Finally, I owe a bit of gratitude to the monopoly Verisign for confirming my suspicions about the nature of the .com beast. While the beast is slowly dying, alternative solutions are ready, willing and able to take over.

Thank you!

 

[ThatNameGuy]

What I don't like about new TLDs is that they are mainly used as domaim hacks or domain shorteners.. they are not treated as true extensions by end users.. Like some of the examples mentioned above green.energy & apple.watch, the use is very limited to few names here and there.

On the other hand generic extensions gTLDs & ccTLDs are much more useful, they are not limited and can be used by almost any company. Thats why extensions such as .co .io & .tv have been much better in competing with .com than nTLDs.

My advice to OP see what happens in 6 months:

• If you succeed : don't renew your remaining .online domains
• If you fail: don't renew your .online domains

The expensive renewals make your adventure in this extension a 1 year try only.

I don't thing there is a point in keeping top names you have because all were hand reged so I don't think there are names worth holding.. maybe keep only top 5 names.

My 2nd advice is to start investing in .com because it is the only thing that makes money in domaining.

The problem is thar you are trying to avoid .com thinking that there is an easier route.. but believe me cheaper is not easier they are 2 different concepts. I believe .com is the easiest root even if it is more expensive.

How much do you think renewals are? If you don't know than I'd suggest you find out before giving advice.

btw, i just picked up freepass.online.....got the idea from FreeKick.io from EpicMade.com.

Thanks

 

[Ostrados]

How much do you think renewals are? If you don't know than I'd suggest you find out before giving advice.

btw, i just picked up freepass.online.....got the idea from FreeKick.io from EpicMade.com.

Thanks

Chepeast .online renewal is $20 at Namecheap but you will pay $27.24 for transfers to Namecheap
$27.24 x 3634 = $98,118

Which is crazy expensive when compared to .com where cheapest .com renewal is $8.5
$8.5 x 3634 = $30,889

That is $67,229 difference!!

So with .com you will pay much less and you will get much much much more sales

 

[ThatNameGuy]

Chepeast .online renewal is $20 at Namecheap but you will pay $27.24 for transfers to Namecheap
$27.24 x 3634 = $98,118

Which is crazy expensive when compared to .com where cheapest .com renewal is $8.5
$8.5 x 3634 = $30,889

That is $67,229 difference!!

So with .com you will pay much less and you will get much much much more sales

Didn't you hear me say that .online renewals are negotiable when you have the sort of volume I have? Note, i've learned in life that everything is negotiable even sex and taxes

I'm pretty much a numbers guy so please don't worry about me. Thanks

Oh...just picked up CarPros.online - got the idea from CarsPros.com @ Epicname.com Thanks

 

[Ostrados]

Didn't you hear me say that .online renewals are negotiable when you have the sort of volume I have?

So your business plan depends on something uncertain such as "negotiable" ?

Good luck!

 

[Ostrados]

Oh...just picked up CarPros.online - got the idea from CarsPros.com @ Epicname.com Thanks

CarPros.online is a horrible name!

I think you don't understand what is .online for

sell.online is a killer name => because it describe a service

WebHosting.online is a stupid name => because WebHosting can only be online and is well known to be online so no need for the .online to describe webhosting.

CarPors.online is a bad name => because .online does not serve any purpose here and there are zillions of shorter extensions that serve the name better CarPros.net, CarPros.org...etc

... and so on

Not every name is suitable with .online, the .online part must describe the name or act as name shortener.
You are treading .online as if it was .com which is horrible idea

 

[ThatNameGuy]

CarPros.online is a horrible name!

I think you don't understand what is .online for

sell.online is a killer name => because it describe a service

WebHosting.online is a stupid name => because WebHosting can only be online and is well known to be online so no need for the .online to describe webhosting.

CarPors.online is a bad name => because .online does not serve any purpose here and there are zillions of shorter extensions that serve the name better CarPros.net, CarPros.org...etc

... and so on

Not every name is suitable with .online, the .online part must describe the name or act as name shortener.
You are treading .online as if it was .com which is horrible idea

"CarPros.online is a horrible name!".....lmao Go to CarPros.com and see how it's used. Then access USPTO and see why I may want to TM it? Have you ever started, named or run a business? And you know what they say about opinions

 

[bmugford]

CarPros.online is a horrible name!

I think you don't understand what is .online for

sell.online is a killer name => because it describe a service

WebHosting.online is a stupid name => because WebHosting can only be online and is well known to be online so no need for the .online to describe webhosting.

CarPors.online is a bad name => because .online does not serve any purpose here and there are zillions of shorter extensions that serve the name better CarPros.net, CarPros.org...etc

... and so on

Not every name is suitable with .online, the .online part must describe the name or act as name shortener.
You are treading .online as if it was .com which is horrible idea

Yeah, I don't think he is really getting it, despite people's best efforts. You figure being around so many accomplished people in the domain field he would do a little learning through osmosis, but close to 4 years later it doesn't seem like that is the case.

It seems like Bulloney just traffics more in getting attention than making domain sales.

Brad

 

[bmugford]

So your business plan depends on something uncertain such as "negotiable" ?

Good luck!

What he is talking about is basically not even possible under ICANN and RA agreements.

Side deals for lower standard registration for some people from the registry, is not compatible with the agreements as far as I understand.

It is yet more theory, not reality.

Results > Theories.

Brad

 

[Ostrados]

Have you ever started, named or run a business? And you know what they say about opinions

Yes I established 2 businesses in the past and I sold both.. both were registered companies with multiple shareholders.
Good enough?

 

[bmugford]

"CarPros.online is a horrible name!".....lmao Go to CarPros.com and see how it's used. Then access USPTO and see why I may want to TM it? Have you ever started, named or run a business? And you know what they say about opinions

Have you ever sold a domain?

Brad

 

[ThatNameGuy]

Have you ever sold a domain?

Brad

"Have you ever sold a domain?"

Yes I have Brad, and I'm sick of your bold faced lies to the contrary.

CarPros.online is a horrible name!

I think you don't understand what is .online for

sell.online is a killer name => because it describe a service

WebHosting.online is a stupid name => because WebHosting can only be online and is well known to be online so no need for the .online to describe webhosting.

CarPors.online is a bad name => because .online does not serve any purpose here and there are zillions of shorter extensions that serve the name better CarPros.net, CarPros.org...etc

... and so on

Not every name is suitable with .online, the .online part must describe the name or act as name shortener.
You are treading .online as if it was .com which is horrible idea

Don't you mean treating and not treading .online as if it was a .com? Don't you also mean CarPros.online and not CarPors.online?

You you should proof your posts before you hit reply.....you know how it makes you look

I'm aware that not every name is suitable with .online. This is why I own 3,800 of them of which if you were honest you would agree at least 10% of them are similar to sell.online.

Just registered AutoDealers.online. I needn't ask your opinion, but have you ever heard of Carvana® For the record I don't need to leave my house to buy a new car. I can buyit.online and it will be delivered to my front door. The same thing goes with banking.online. Whens the last time you went to a bricks and mortar bank? This is why I own names like; CommunityBank.online, Bankcorp.online and LegacyBank.online.

The next thing you'll be telling me there's no such thing as online banking

 

[bmugford]

"Have you ever sold a domain?"

Yes I have Brad, and I'm sick of your bold faced lies to the contrary.

No need to get your knickers in a twist.

I was just asking the question as I was not aware of any actual sale that you reported.
Was there one, but I just missed it?

Brad

 

[ThatNameGuy]

No need to get your knickers in a twist.

I was just asking the question as I was not aware of any actual sale that you reported.
Was there one, but I just missed it?

Brad

Just like I told the moderator, it's none of your damn business, and I don't appreciate your stalking and harassing me 24/7.

 

[bmugford]

Just like I told the moderator, it's none of your damn business, and I don't appreciate your stalking and harassing me 24/7.

I don't think you understand how an open discussion on an internet forum works.

Brad

 

[ThatNameGuy]

I don't think you understand how an open discussion on an internet forum works.

Brad

Project360.online

Think risk vs. reward Brad.....maybe someday you'll get it.

 

[Ostrados]

Just registered AutoDealers.online. I needn't ask your opinion, but have you ever heard of Carvana® For the record I don't need to leave my house to buy a new car. I can buyit.online and it will be delivered to my front door. The same thing goes with banking.online. Whens the last time you went to a bricks and mortar bank? This is why I own names like; CommunityBank.online, Bankcorp.online and LegacyBank.online.

The next thing you'll be telling me there's no such thing as online banking

Yes there is online banking, but 2 words .online is not worth more than the $0.99 that you paid for.
Because there is an abundance of available 2 Words domains in many extensions.
What makes a domain valuable is how rare the domain is.

If you asked me before starting investing in .online I would advice you to stick with 1 word .online domains only.

If you look at smart and sucessful nTLD investors you will find that they focus on one word domains and they do not stick only with one extension, they try to find combinations of word+extension that fit together like (green.energy, happy.life, luxury.estate... and so on).

I don't like to discuss a lot with someone who don't like to listen to advice.. so I will not comment anymore here and please do whatever you like.

 

[ThatNameGuy]

Yes there is online banking, but 2 words .online is not worth more than the $0.99 that you paid for.
Because there is an abundance of available 2 Words domains in many extensions.
What makes a domain valuable is how rare the domain is.

If you asked me before starting investing in .online I would advice you to stick with 1 word .online domains only.

If you look at smart and sucessful nTLD investors you will find that they focus on one word domains and they do not stick only with one extension, they try to find combinations of word+extension that fit together like (green.energy, happy.life, luxury.estate... and so on).

I don't like to discuss a lot with someone who don't like to listen to advice.. so I will not comment anymore here and please do whatever you like.

Ostrados....at last count, of the 3,800 .online domains I own 393 of them are one word. Are you shocked....guess i took your advice

With regards to there being an "abundance of available 2 word domains in many extensions", while that's true, how are they being marketed? Do you suppose any online Auto Dealers are looking for the domain AutoDealers.Online

Since we're parting company here's my advice to you; No one knows who you are or even that you own EpicNames.com (pretty good name btw), and no one cares. Furthermore, other than domainers very few people in this world know what a domainer really is so I have a damn good shot of convincing a few auto dealers, a few lawyers, a few bankers or a few doctors they should be promoting themselves via an .online domain

And as for your advice, "do whatever you like"......thank you Lord

 

[CraigD]

Project360.online

Think risk vs. reward Brad.....maybe someday you'll get it.

And this is the point that I jump in a mention that I have blah blah blah similar domains in king, and thank you for giving me the opportunity to promote them here.

Nine pages of self promotion in fifteen days...

Brad, please stop responding

 

[ThatNameGuy]

And this is the point that I jump in a mention that I have blah blah blah similar domains in king, and thank you for giving me the opportunity to promote them here.

Nine pages of self promotion in fifteen days...

Brad, please stop responding

That's great stuff Craig.....i really didn't know you owned those great names in king? Only proves they're great names i guess....i also own Data360.online.....Brad will be proud.

As an fyi about Brads DataCube.com name. Were you or anyone else here aware that DataCube.com was just the 68th domain created way back in 1985?

Brad that's cool as shit.....you bet your sweet ass

 

[Revisiting]

Lets just take this thread to it's end game Already. And as per all previous Episodes

In 6 months time, Baloney would have done nothing about his great 'pie-in-the-sky' idea of convincing the business world of the merit of online extension. Renewal costs will see him drop 99% of the domains. As always it will be somebody else's fault for not coming through with some great partnership or support that was in the making.

Isn't this about the third or fourth time we've been through this same loop. On the up-side this guy has shown time and time again that he has to have something to believe in, no-matter what its merits or should I say lack of.

So good luck man do what ever keeps you happy, If spending thousands of dollars each year keeps you thinking of yourself as a domain player, then play on. I'm sure many of us have pursued loosing streaks at a similar cost. Usually offset by the successes for most of us by NOT having all our eggs in one basket at a time and keeping the spread balanced.

 

[ThatNameGuy]

Lets just take this thread to it's end game Already. And as per all previous Episodes

In 6 months time, Baloney would have done nothing about his great 'pie-in-the-sky' idea of convincing the business world of the merit of online extension. Renewal costs will see him drop 99% of the domains. As always it will be somebody else's fault for not coming through with some great partnership or support that was in the making.

Isn't this about the third or fourth time we've been through this same loop. On the up-side this guy has shown time and time again that he has to have something to believe in, no-matter what its merits or should I say lack of.

So good luck man do what ever keeps you happy, If spending thousands of dollars each year keeps you thinking of yourself as a domain player, then play on. I'm sure many of us have pursued loosing streaks at a similar cost. Usually offset by the successes for most of us by NOT having all our eggs in one basket at a time and keeping the spread balanced.

Revisiting....are you new here? Maybe so because it was "Bulloney" and not Baloney
How is it you and your friends feel so threatened? I noticed you don't identify yourself, and you know what I've said in the past about anonymity.online

And as for you and the rest of the herd remember this; PassionSells whether it be .com or .online

 

[Charybdis]

Isn't this about the third or fourth time we've been through this same loop.

Next up: .Web Domains - why 3,634 and counting☺

 

[bmugford]

Next up: .Web Domains - why 3,634 and counting☺

It is funny to me that some people are actually hyped about .web. It is basically exactly like .NET, with no track record. .NET is leagues above .online in every metric.

Brad

 

[ThatNameGuy]

Next up: .Web Domains - why 3,634 and counting☺

so you're new too....go back and read what I just said about anonymity Share with me who you are, and I may just accommodate your question.

 

[Peak.Domains]

It was hard for me to accept at first but now I've been convinced that the future is online.

The future is .online.

TheFutureIs.online