Oliver Maggs seller is scammer.

[EmpireNames.com]

Hi Guys.
i was trying to deal with this guy who own Gambly.com after having all proofs i decided to pay through paypal
but after receiving payment in paypal he disappeared
be carefull dont make any deal with him @Oliver Maggs
he trying to cash amount from paypal and then paypal will refund me and paypal will mark him as negative balance.
so he is trying to play game here with alot of guys..
be carefull

 

[xynames]

Okay well, unless I am missing something, then I'd stop using that term "denounce" it has no legal meaning in that context. Denouncing someone just means...denouncing someone. Reporting a criminal complaint...is reporting a criminal complaint.

It makes it sound like you don't know what you are doing or talking about when you talk about "making a denounce." Just a suggestion.

 

[BrunoWillis]

@BrunoWillis

Is this guy a minor and are you and this alleged scammer in the same country ? Just wondering...

Anyway, if that's really his dad, good for him. You had no business contacting his family. His kid sister? Wtf man. If he's a minor I get why you tried to contact his parents but a kid sister... Not cool. Not cool at all.

Personally if my kid would be scamming people and evidence was there I'd ground her for years. Then again, if you'd be bothering my kid about sh*t like this just for having a grievance with her brother I wouldn't be amused at all. Let's say in real life things would get real ugly, real fast.

The guy is 23 and tried to scam other people before. As you can see, I didn't open this thread. The only reason why he refunded the other victim was that $200 weren't worth losing his Paypal account. Just maths... And as you could also read, according to someone else, he demanded a logo with copyright breaches from a designer and later opened a Paypal dispute saying that this guy committed a copyright breach. This should tell you everything about his manipulative nature.

Secondly, he kept threatening me with police, coming to my house, etc. And then I thought, it's better to write a polite message to 2 or 3 people of his family, notifying them about this issue here. Because I thought it would be better (and it would have been) to solve this in a humane and fair way, refund and deleting his name. But instead he threatened me again and again. Even his first sentence after this scam was that he would go to the police if I contact him again. You must understand what kind of game he is playing...

Just fyi: This is what I sent after having been scammed and threatened with police and that he would come to my house:

My name
That I am a victim of a scam
Asking if they are relatives
The link
Saying that I am just interested in solving this asap.

After that, nothing more. A one-time contact when nobody was online. Calling this harassment is just a way to get out of that. He used this word in every second message to me playing the victim. He's the criminal not me. And yes, I would always do this again, when the little son scams and threatens online.

 

[xynames]

Did Riz M. get his PP money back? Was the domain delivered to the new buyer via Flippa?

So this domain is so "hot" that people are stumbling over their feet to buy it for more and more money?

 

[BrunoWillis]

Okay well, unless I am missing something, then I'd stop using that term "denounce" it has no legal meaning in that context. Denouncing someone just means...denouncing someone. Reporting a criminal complaint...is reporting a criminal complaint.

It makes it sound like you don't know what you are doing or talking about when you talk about "making a denounce." Just a suggestion.

Sorry for this but in my home country and in my country of birth it's just denounce, just one word. Thank you, didn't know that it's different in legal English.

 

[dirk]

The guy is 23 and tried to scam other people before. As you can see, I didn't open this thread. The only reason why he refunded the other victim was that $200 weren't worth losing his Paypal account. Just maths... And as you could also read, according to someone else, he demanded a logo with copyright breaches from a designer and later opened a Paypal dispute saying that this guy committed a copyright breach. This should tell you everything about his manipulative nature.

Secondly, he kept threatening me with police, coming to my house, etc. And then I thought, it's better to write a polite message to 2 or 3 people of his family, notifying them about this issue here. Because I thought it would be better (and it would have been) to solve this in a humane and fair way, refund and deleting his name. But instead he threatened me again and again. Even his first sentence after this scam was that he would go to the police if I contact him again. You must understand what kind of game he is playing...

Just fyi: This is what I sent after having been scammed and threatened with police and that he would come to my house:

My name
That I am a victim of a scam
Asking if they are relatives
The link
Saying that I am just interested in solving this asap.

After that, nothing more. A one-time contact when nobody was online. Calling this harassment is just a way to get out of that. He used this word in every second message to me playing the victim. He's the criminal not me. And yes, I would always do this again, when the little son scams and threatens online.

I totally get it man and I feel for you. I've been scammed (not domaining related). I understand the emotions that come into play.

Being threatened on top sucks even more but there are legal procedures to follow. In cases like this you either walk away and take a loss or you report, sue, send debt collectors or whatever.

Contacting family (and especially someone's kid sister) is a line you simply do not cross. Even more because he's an adult.

 

[BrunoWillis]

Did Riz M. get his PP money back? Was the domain delivered to the new buyer via Flippa?

So this domain is so "hot" that people are stumbling over their feet to buy it for more and more money?

I think yes. But it was clear what he was trying to do. To my knowledge, he refunded it after some discussion in this thread and it was Riz who opened it. Paypal would have closed his account. That's clear. But maybe @Riz M. can answer.

I contacted Flippa and provided the contract and proof of payment. Also, I linked to the thread. They said they will investigate but nothing happened. The next day I wanted to click on the support ticket link, and I received a "404 oops". So they were not interested in this and trashed it. I contacted them again, and they said that they wouldn't allow the domain to be sold on the marketplace any more after this current auction. What a statement lol. And just shortly after this, the domain was sold with BIN 1750. Won't use this platform anymore.

Two days ago, he said he would pay me back after this Flippa auction. But I didn't believe it and I was right. When he had the Flippa money (he said he received it), he started to threaten again and told me I wouldn't receive a single penny from him.

 

[BrunoWillis]

I totally get it man and I feel for you. I've been scammed (not domaining related). I understand the emotions that come into play.

Being threatened on top sucks even more but there are legal procedures to follow. In cases like this you either walk away and take a loss or you report, sue, send debt collectors or whatever.

Contacting family (and especially someone's kid sister) is a line you simply do not cross. Even more because he's an adult.

I understand your opinion but I would always do it again in this case. He behaved like an invincible child, and I do think that it's better to contact at least the father first in a polite way, just once. Better than hearing it from the police, I thought. Ok, the sister I should have left out but he made me crazy with his stupid threats and lies. That was and is my thought. It was no message with threats at all.

Additionally, I wasn't the first one here in this thread who used his name and the word scam or scammer.

There's no change in the whois. I guess the funds are only "secured" so far.

As I said, it's likely not the father who posted here. And if then he's not very sensitive or he doesn't know anything. Actually I don't care much. He should be more interested in what his son is doing instead of what I am doing.

 

[xynames]

Just for future reference: With these sorts of things, if you can get enough victims to band together and jointly file a criminal complaint, you might get some action. But if you are all in different countries, and the dollar amount isn't high enough, as I wrote before, nothing is going to happen, unfortunately.

An attorney I knew had a client who sold the same high end watch (sales price around $10K) to three different people on an internet auction site. He collected the money via PayPal and managed to get it all out clean. Then to two I believe he shipped nothing (or maybe he shipped just a box with nothing in it), and to one he shipped the empty actual watch box. As I recall the one who got the watch box even videotaped himself receiving it from the mailman at the door, and opening it to find nothing inside but the watch's box. Then the scammer allegedly sold the watch itself locally without the box. So he collected $40K for a watch that was worth $10K and defrauded three internet victims. (Only the local buyer actually received the watch.)

The police did get involved and got a search warrant for his house via his IP address. A criminal case was filed. But by the time they caught him, because he wasn't around when they broke down his door and searched his place (and they didn't really find anything at the scene to tie him to the crime, he had already moved out), the case ended up being dismissed because the victims were in different states and didn't want to deal with it by then; I believe they had already been reimbursed by their banks or PayPal. And as I recall from what the attorney told me about the case, one of the internet victims refused to file a police report from the getgo, didn't care. So you may see, even in high dollar cases it's hard sometimes to secure a conviction.


So advice for the future: you guys who get scammed, don't put all your hope on a criminal complaint. Suing is sometimes prohibitively expensive. Don't come on here and create threads or threaten non-involved parties that may just end up making the scammer dig in his heels. Work with the guy as quickly as possible to try to get a resolution, or shame him in the proper format, privately, before you shame him publicly. Once everything is out in the open a scammer may feel he has nothing more to lose and just disappear.

 

[BrunoWillis]

Just for future reference: With these sorts of things, if you can get enough victims to band together and jointly file a criminal complaint, you might get some action. But if you are all in different countries, and the dollar amount isn't high enough, as I wrote before, nothing is going to happen, unfortunately.

I asked other victims in this thread several times to contact me and pool our actions. I know. 1 case is difficult, 3 cases are easier...but hey, do you know what? Such guys have sooner or later several reports and if it is for different things... and then something happens. The sad thing is that it takes often too long because people are too lazy for 200 or 300.

So if you are another victim, please contact me and I can explain how you can report it online in a few minutes.

And yes, Paypal do what they want. In 80 or 90% they take the buyer's side. And they don't accept any screenshots. But what they accept without checking is "Product not received" and "Program didn't work as specified" or "It was not what I ordered". Or the classic, that somebody hacked the Paypal account or stole the card.

 

[Internet.Domains]

If you have been scammed it is understandable to be emotional. Although, decisions will be better if you can control those emotions.

Contacting family members is not good. There is a proper way for recourse, but contacting family members is not the way to do it. Pending the details, contacting family could be criminal.

I wish you the best and hope for an amicable solution, but please leave family alone.

 

[BrunoWillis]

Nothing was criminal about what I wrote. And it was a one time contact. I don't see any problem. I have a clear opinion about that. Maybe an extreme opinion but I try to do everything (within a legal frame) to solve it without authorities first if the guy is young and naive but keeps threatening me. If there was any harassment, then from him.

I write it again, it was a polite one-time message asking them to help to solve this in a human way. Everything else is bs and has the intention to change the role of victim and offender. He was the victim from the beginning.

 

[BrunoWillis]

@xynames

I really tried everything to solve this. But he didn't want to listen, threatened and lied. It was impossible. From NamePros he demanded that I shall buy the domain a second time, imagine!

I mean what he did to this logo designer should tell you what type of person we are dealing with.

And I didn't threaten the family. It was the opposite. I was polite and the father (if he's real) threatens me. I am not so stupid that I send threats to other people.

In the end, I don't care much, sooner or later, he will fxck his own life completely, if he continues to scam people. And my feeling tells me that there could be more "unclear things" already, for other cases. We will see. I don't want to know what happened to all the coins in his casinos.

 

[BrunoWillis]

Following an investigation, the NamePros team has marked this case as "Intentional Fraud"
now.

Furthermore, the "father's" account has been closed. No comment.

IMPORTANT: He has obviously created new accounts again and tries to defraud other people with other domains if I read the full text correctly.

Please be careful!

 

[decades80]

Ive done deals with tens of thousands of dollars worth of ETH and BTC on Namepros. Ive never had any problems, but I requested or more like asked, if the domain could be pushed or transfered to my account first. Thats a normal standard since crypto transactions can not get reversed. I now see that the whole story is getting way too much disturbing, so this is the only contribution I want to make....

 

[jideofor]

Saw this domain around when he was asking for some appraisals. I remember someone asking him why he was asking for the appraisal when he just sold the name in a different thread.

Thought something didn't add up then. Now, it seems my sixth sense was right

they wont mention his country but when another thread pops up, they will be quick to mention Nigeria that has no relationship with the thread.

 

[Recons.Com]

Whois shows fake details. Shouldn't this be grounds for name suspension by registrar?

 

[FolioTeam]

they wont mention his country but when another thread pops up, they will be quick to mention Nigeria that has no relationship with the thread.

Yes, when you need a fall guy, just call a Nigerian

 

[Recons.Com]

In this case the guy chose Libya. I suspect just because it ends in ly. So if it was gambling.com, he'd claim Nigeria as his home. Clearly he did not have honorable intentions from the beginning. I am amazed flippa is turning a blind eye just for couple of hundred dollars.

 

[convertcontent]

Am I missing something? I was under the impression that using escrow.com solved the problem of ever having to worry about getting scammed on a domain or any other product. Is this not the case? And why use Paypal instead of escrow if dealing with a stranger? Paypal speed is great when dealing with a trusted party but doesn't having chargeback potential make it not ideal? Also, I thought I read in Paypal's TOS that they don't provide seller protection for digital goods but only products that can be proven with tracking numbers and proof of delivery?

 

[iAdam]

It seems like this matter is not going to be resolved, and the domain will just find a new home if the seller is serious about the Flippa deal. I personally don't think that was his father, because if it was him he should apologize for his son behaviour first before asking to stop harassing his family.

I'm also glad that Nigeria or Morocco weren't mentioned in this thread