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Oliver Maggs seller is scammer.

Located in Reviews started by Riz M., Apr 30, 2019.

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  1. Riz M.

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    Hi Guys.
    i was trying to deal with this guy who own Gambly.com after having all proofs i decided to pay through paypal
    but after receiving payment in paypal he disappeared
    be carefull dont make any deal with him @Oliver Maggs
    he trying to cash amount from paypal and then paypal will refund me and paypal will mark him as negative balance.
    so he is trying to play game here with alot of guys..
    be carefull
     
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  4. BrunoWillis

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    I was also scammed. Riz, you could have seen in the thread that I already bought it.

    He trashed a contract we signed for the domain and the trademark and said he hasn't received any payment afterwards. But I saved copies of contracts and payments.

    I already contacted Escrow, Undeveloped and other companies where he had accounts. He has social profiles. But from at least LinkedIn, it seems his pictures disappeared.

    He parked the domain at undeveloped yesterday but my payment was declined. First Escrow was agreed, but there were problems because they don't offer credit card for GBP transactions. So I paid him differently.

    The domain is now registered at LybianSpider!
     
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  5. Riz M.

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    same domain?
     
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  7. BrunoWillis

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    Yes same domain. I even wrote into one thread that I bought the domain when I saw it was still offered. We signed a contract in his Google Docs, and when there were different problems with Escrow.com and Undeveloped.com (where he sent me payment requests), we then changed the payment method. After payment, he wrote "sorry haven't received anything" and deleted the signed contract. I downloaded it before.
     
  8. BrunoWillis

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    https://undeveloped.com/buy-domain/gambly.com

    I already contacted undeveloped and escrow by the way. Also, my credit card was blocked by my card issuer after trying to pay via undeveloped.com. So this seems to be extremely bad luck from my side.

    You can find the trademark for GAMBLY in the international trademarks databases, registered to the same person. They were part of our contract.

    Everybody scammed should collect all data available and denounce it.

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  9. FolioTeam

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    Saw this domain around when he was asking for some appraisals. I remember someone asking him why he was asking for the appraisal when he just sold the name in a different thread.

    Thought something didn't add up then. Now, it seems my sixth sense was right
     
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  10. BrunoWillis

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    Yes, I posted into the open thread that I bought the domain. Then somebody contacted me regarding the appraisal, but shortly after my own payment. But he wrote me that somebody else offered him 650.

    So I guess it's maybe one of these typical scams where the user didn't plan to scam from the beginning, but then the opportunity of receiving several payments for the same domain at once and disappearing was too tempting.

    I've asked escrow and unveloped to save all data.
     
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  11. Riz M.

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    he was also pushing me to pay through crypto...
    thanks God i didnt paid him through crypto..
    with paypal i am safe i can claim funds back..
     
  12. BrunoWillis

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    Yes, but everybody should denounce it no matter if they finally lost the funds or not. What is interesting is that he didn't accept Paypal from me when his Escrow request and Undeveloped payments had problems.

    I've contacted escrow, undeveloped, OnlineNIC and LybianSpider.
     
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    Report to NamePros administrators with proof so they can ban this person from participating in any activity in this forum.
     
  14. NYJimbo

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    Yes, saw that too. Thought he was just a noob, but it turns out much worse.
     
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    As always deal seemed to good to be true, and a few always take the bait. Funny how nobody wrote a neg review which would have negated any follow up buys, until after the fact.
     
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    Off topic but why was your CC blocked? Did you contact CC provider and Undeveloped and traced the reason?
     
  18. BrunoWillis

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    I wrote that domain has already been sold in one thread, I think even on Saturday.

    But it seems he took all payments at the same time. Because there was a delay in my payment due to my own problems with his escrow request (couldn't pay by card because GBP transactions by cc not possible) and my unveloped.com payment (declined), and because I demanded many "proofs" and amendments to the signed contract.

    What can you do when you have almost all proofs, contract, escrow with same name and email, dns change to undeveloped.com, social profile, proof that he had a business there in the past, proof that he holds the trademarks for the same word, etc.

    At one point you can't do much more. Impossible to have 0% risk online especially when user offers you escrow but there are problems with the transactions which have nothing to do with him. Shouldn't have paid differently but I knew he was having other offers despite having a contract with me. I think he just decided to take the "opportunity" that different people pay for the same domain at one point. Maybe not planned from the beginning because why should he have created an escrow payment...
     
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  19. BrunoWillis

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    Contacted all of them. Still waiting for reply.
     
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    that domain, was posted for auction by another user's name and the thread was closed by mod because of duplicate accounts.

    when that happens with new member, then that should raise a red flag

    they come in with that intention

    and sometimes you just gotta walk away.

    being persuaded to use pay services other than escrow.com, is reason to be suspicious.

    hope you guys get your dough back.

    imo..
     
  21. BrunoWillis

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    It wasn't because of him that I couldn't pay by escrow and undeveloped. Plus there was a contract. You think why should a scammer waste so many hours for tons of amendments, proofs, etc, if he finally agrees to escrow service....I told him from the beginning that I would only accept escrow services and he agreed to everything... so that's why I think he just took the opportunity later when he realized that other people would pay him too despite that fact that the domain was already sold.
     
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  22. wwwweb

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    Using Escrow was smart, undeveloped also backs up its buyers, sedo escrow is another option. You can also use registers who have checkouts that will lock, or auto transfer the domain automatically when dealing with newbies, people see a bit of a deal, and it goes south fast. Domains are liquid assets, and we are going to see more con types use legitimate scams in this seeming small industry of mainly honest people. It sucks I know, but sometimes offer a few bucks extra if they refuse to use your option, and walk away if you need to, if they are legit they will come around, if they aren’t then it’s good for you. I mean this guys whole social life is being destroyed for thousands of dollars, to bad he doesn’t realize how hard it will be to recover from this.
     
  23. BrunoWillis

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    wwwweb. I did exactly what you wrote. He offered me to save 250 but I said I prefer to pay 250 more and by escrow. And he agreed and increased the amount in the contract. But then problems with payment. You normally assume a scammer leaves the party when somebody is willing to pay even 250 more for full security...Normally you don't expect a scammer to write for 2 days, add all the time amendments to a contract, if user demands escrow.

    As I wrote, I guess he took the opportunity to take many payments at once later. Not from the beginning. Anyway, escrow, undeveloped and registrars are informed and I have linked to this thread.
     
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  24. BrunoWillis

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    I knew all this and talked to him about it. That's why I demanded escrow and he agreed. As I wrote, I shouldn't have taken the risk when the escrow services didn't work. Even if people first want to be honest, they can later still turn into scammers if the opportunity changes. That's the lesson.
     
  25. BrunoWillis

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    Document is double signed below. First he sent me for Bitcoin, then I demanded Escrow for $1,000 which he accepted. We negotiated the details for this Escrow transaction over 2 days!

    Then problems with his escrow request, change to undeveloped where my card was declined. Then I decided to take the risk because the problems didn't occur due to him, and we changed the contract back to 750 by bitcoin. Then contract was deleted by him (I have it) and "didn't receive anything".

    That's why I assume he took the "chance" to take different payments at once and disappear with them when he suddenly had this opportunity. Probably also financial problems because there must be a reason why his own casino is down.
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