.now showcase and discussion

[MiamiDomainer93]

I was able to pick up these two names in the 5th day of EAP for a great price. All the highly targeted keywords like news and porn sold in the 2nd day of EAP for around $3,400 each. Please share any of your .now, and your thoughts on the potential future. For some reason, I prefer this extension to .deal that also is in EAP.

 

[King]

About a week ago, I listed the domains Medic.now, Teleport.now, and Cert.now on Atom’s public auction, but they didn’t get much attention. What do you all think of these three names?

They are good, the issue is not the names. Did you have a high reserve price? People don't seem to like high reserves.

Also keep in mind these auctions despite being "public" are mainly just investors.

 

[NameGroove]

Would you buy domain like creampie.now?
Many TLDs taken. But many are for many years for sale. Like creampie.eu, creampie.pro

Point is what TLD is on ladder of TLDs right after .com?
Why anyone buy .now when they could get cheaper .pro or reg own untaken TLD.
What benefit .now add?

I mean does some plus "trust/autority" matter for this cache?

When deciding what keywords to register you want to take a lot of things into account. #3 is relevant to certain gTLDs (but is not a relevant screen for coms)

1- TLDs taken (goes to competitive availability). You pointed this out and it is to be considered. For creampie there are 85 TLDs taken. That is not a high number. It is <Top 10,000. It leaves many unregistered gTLDs avail (like .one).
2- TLDs developed (goes to end user adoption). Creampie has 7 developed sites (at a quick glance). Most importantly the com is developed (removing the king from the equation). However, note #3 below
3- The exact match com (creampienow) is unregistered. Not a good sign. Someone can register this term in the com mashup for $10. Further, it shows there has been no demand for this pairing for >25 years. HOWEVER - it should be noted that some companies want to call themselves the SLD and not SLD+Now. So this metric, while concerning must be weighed against all the metrics.
4- Only one Top 7 TLD live (com). net/org/co/xyz/ai/io are all not live. Further .ai ($23,500), .xyz ($12,500), .io (8,000) are for sale. Competition for this word is strong (not good). Someone can buy an unregistered name (.one) or a strong TLD io/ai/xyz for $8k-$23.5k. This brings us to #5.
5- Why would someone do that? Synergy. What is the synergy of the SLD with this TLD? For our example word, not particularly strong. Verbs are particularly strong. Places. Items. Certain adjectives. But creampie isn't exactly a strong match.

There are many other considerations to use when deciding as well. But for this example, I'd stop here as it wouldn't pass my screen. However, for those that do get through #s 1-5, I'd add:

1- # of companies using the term in their name (opencorporates)
2- # of companies having the keyword either as exact match or within part of their name on USTPO.
3- Google search volume & CPC amounts
4- Total numbers of SLD sold on NameBio. Total numbers of names sold with SLD + another keyword on NB.
5- Total number of competing TLDs for sale (and prices)
6- Appraisals (Atom primarily - but also for reference, GoDaddy, Dyna, Humbleworth, Graen, PC.domains)
7- Rhythmic flow, melody, length, # of syllables, spell-ability.
8- Previously registered (not yet applicable to .now - but it will be).
9- Gut/experience

Once that analysis is complete you'll be able to answer your own question. In this example, I wouldn't register it.

 

[NameGroove]

About a week ago, I listed the domains Medic.now, Teleport.now, and Cert.now on Atom’s public auction, but they didn’t get much attention. What do you all think of these three names?

I went to bid on one, saw your reserve, and moved along. The reality is - we can still hand register high quality names. To expect a name you regged for $30 a few mos ago to flip for a lot of money within the first year is unrealistic. It has happened, sure. But the market is being flooded by wholesalers since the flurry of sales in July. It's a buyers market now. If you want to increase the value of your names you will have to wait. If you are attempting a quick flip, set no reserve.

 

[NameGroove]

High yearly rental

High renewals do not scare businesses. That argument I've heard from many com maxis is lacking in thought. They solely compare back end renewal prices to coms $10 renewal prices and lament gTLD renewal prices. However, there are high upfront costs to short dictionary coms (and .ai, .io, etc) that they do not take into account

And end user will either pay upfront and then incur a low renewal cost. Or they can acquire at no (or low) upfront cost a strong gTLD dictionary term and pay on the backend.

For example. Decide. Decide.com sold for $175,000 in 2010.
$175,000 com (upfront) + $10 renewal over 15 years. $175,150 cost

Decide.now ($1,035 annual fee) = 170 years of renewals. Even if the registry raises prices 2x - that's 85 years of renewals.
Which is the better deal for the end user?

There are no more low cost dictionary coms. They all cost six figures or more. Even music.now would get 11 years worth of renewals before it equaled $175k. And we all know music.com would cost more than $175k.

 

[Velocity.Now]

High renewals do not scare businesses. That argument I've heard from many com maxis is lacking in thought. They solely compare back end renewal prices to coms $10 renewal prices and lament gTLD renewal prices. However, there are high upfront costs to short dictionary coms (and .ai, .io, etc) that they do not take into account

And end user will either pay upfront and then incur a low renewal cost. Or they can acquire at no (or low) upfront cost a strong gTLD dictionary term and pay on the backend.

For example. Decide. Decide.com sold for $175,000 in 2010.
$175,000 com (upfront) + $10 renewal over 15 years. $175,150 cost

Decide.now ($1,035 annual fee) = 170 years of renewals. Even if the registry raises prices 2x - that's 85 years of renewals.
Which is the better deal for the end user?

There are no more low cost dictionary coms. They all cost six figures or more. Even music.now would get 11 years worth of renewals before it equaled $175k. And we all know music.com would cost more than $175k.

You are not comparing apples with apples.

 

[E. Silvera]

But creampie isn't exactly a strong match

Well, after a flash search with Google, I learned it's a cannabis strain, so maybe that's why it fits the "urgency" or "momentum" feel provided by synergy with NOW. (Just theorizing, I am not familiar with the subject).

 

[NoobTask]

You are not comparing apples with apples.

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I think you cant rely on AI appraisal tool.

Note: everyone knows that .com dictionary words cost insane $

Its about comparing options for some physical company. Does they use .com for insane $ or something new that may become strong option.

 

[Jannes]

I love the creampie discussion. Only possible on a domainer forum.

 

[NoobTask]

I love the creampie discussion. Only possible on a domainer forum.

Yes. Very nourishing discussion. Good stuff, many things to learn from.

Also that premium pricing is good point. Auctions could be traps for noobies.

 

[NameGroove]

You are not comparing apples with apples.

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Of course com is worth more than other TLDs. I'm simply refuting the point you made earlier that high renewal costs "put off" end users. They do not. End users must pay for domains one way or the other. For com, they pay upfront. For gTLDs they pay annually.

Further, end users do not buy domains based on Ai appraisals. They buy on brand fit. Nevertheless, coms brand fit is generally thought of as higher than many gTLDs. And therefore it is generally priced higher. Which, proves the point once again - that end users can either buy coms by paying upfront or buy gTLDs, many of which have annual renewal costs 10-100x com, annually. But at the end of the day - they're going to pay. There is no free lunch for end users for short dictionary words.

 

[NoobTask]

Hope they checked the renewal

Final 24 hours for Move.now auction

This quite concern me.
namebio have informed that was sold for 100$.

Today at registrator I can check renewal that is: $2729.67

So could anyone explain me why someone bought it for $2729.67 and sold for 100$. It doesnt make any sence.

My concern is about possible changes.
Do the early hand reg. domainer bought it for about 40$ and than logicaly sold it for 100$ ?
Because Amazon maybe changed word category of word "move" to premium with price tag 2729.67$.
OR it was priced 2729.67$ right from start?

Just imagine startup that buy it resonably priced, create web and day after launch they get bill for renewal that doesnt match their bussiness strategy.

 

[fka1080405]

OR it was priced 2729.67$ right from start?

Yes, it was. You don't need to worry, Amazon aren't increasing prices like that on already registered domains.

So could anyone explain me why someone bought it for $2729.67 and sold for 100$. It doesnt make any sence.

People do all sorts of inexplicable things. The seller may have believed that the domain would achieve a much higher price at auction. Alternatively, they may regret their registration and think that this is the only opportunity to recover at least some of their investment (as the domain is expiring soon). $100 is better than $0.

Related stories...

I was looking at registering a registry premium domain recently (e.ml) for $1,900 to launch a new project. I finally decided to go for it, and register it, but my payment got refunded... because in the couple of days I had been thinking about it someone else registered it for $1,900. Very unlucky.

I visited the domain and saw it listed at atom for $10k. Disappointed, I figured I'd wait until I felt it was worth $10k. And in the meantime, I subscribed to atom's price alerts. A few days later, I got notified the price had been dropped... and then dropped... and then dropped... all the way down to $700. At that point, I bought it: 77 days after the seller paid $1,900 to register it, I bought it off them for $700. A seemingly nonsensical waste of money on their part. I still have no idea why they did that, but I am sure they had a reason.

2 years ago I bought a .com domain for $7k. I put it up for auction this week, the current bid is... it has no bids. The domain might not even sell, or it may sell for less than $100. I hope it will sell for more, but I am prepared for it to sell for a few dollars. I am auctioning it because... I'm curious. I have a theory about auctions and I am validating it. From the outside, if you know what that domain last sold for, it probably seems inexplicable, but it makes sense to me.

People are inexplicable. Sometimes there's a reason, sometimes there isn't.

 

[Jannes]

This quite concern me.
namebio have informed that was sold for 100$.

Today at registrator I can check renewal that is: $2729.67

So could anyone explain me why someone bought it for $2729.67 and sold for 100$. It doesnt make any sence.

My concern is about possible changes.
Do the early hand reg. domainer bought it for about 40$ and than logicaly sold it for 100$ ?
Because Amazon maybe changed word category of word "move" to premium with price tag 2729.67$.
OR it was priced 2729.67$ right from start?

Just imagine startup that buy it resonably priced, create web and day after launch they get bill for renewal that doesnt match their bussiness strategy.

It was discussed many months ago (after it sold)

https://www.namepros.com/threads/now-showcase-and-discussion.1335955/page-121#posts

 

[ARCCLOUD]

18k!

 

[King]

Armor .now sold for $3500, bought by a prominent investor.
(not my sale)

 

[Velocity.Now]

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Armor .now sold for $3500, bought by a prominent investor.
(not my sale)

The Department of WAR ??

 

[King]

Results of putting this on no reserve in Atom auctions, recovered the reg fee pretty much.

 

[Velocity.Now]

Results of putting this on no reserve in Atom auctions, recovered the reg fee pretty much.
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I liked this one when I saw it, 24 7 been time related, worked well with .now. Pity they are premium renewals.

 

[alop]

Would you buy domain like creampie.now?
Many TLDs taken. But many are for many years for sale. Like creampie.eu, creampie.pro

Point is what TLD is on ladder of TLDs right after .com?
Why anyone buy .now when they could get cheaper .pro or reg own untaken TLD.
What benefit .now add?

I mean does some plus "trust/autority" matter for this cache?

are you talking .now?

 

[King]

No reserve auction result for retro .now
3x reg fee