Not sure about IDN's ? Ask yourself These Questions !

[thegenius1]

1. Why are Big Registars in on IDN's ?

2. Why does Bill Gates own IDN's ?

3. Why did Adam Dickner aka Dot Com God - Buy 5 thousand of them ?

4. Check the sales threads at djnournal & http://www.idntools.net/idnsales.php

5. Have you REGd a Domain in the last couple of months with a overture over 50k or even 25k or even 10k ?

6. Show me a domain you reged in the last couple of weeks that Gets a 80 dollar Bid on the keyword , ie : 新潟不動産.com NiigataRealEstate.com ¥9,999 = 87.2222 USD Top Bid , maderfact show me one that Gets Half of that $43.50 , I'll answer mesothemioma.com been gone, caught and gone again !

7. Explain to me why so many people think that everybody speaks english ?

When the Fact is

Total number of users with European languages (excluding English): 276 million

Total number of users with Asian languages (excluding English): 241 million

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_internet_usage

8. Tell me if you would type in Japanse to find out the weather in New York if the internet was invented in Japan ? If ICANN and Microsoft were Japanese companies what tune would you be singing ?

9. Then tell me how excited you would be when you find out many years later you can now access domains in English ?

10. Then tell me why people continue to be blind to the fact and insist on Buying ThisDomainIsWorth-RegFee.com instead of atleast looking into IDN's ?

11. Then tell me why people think that they have to do the translations themselves , i guess people never heard of hiring people or outsourcing or the Free IDN tutorial .?

15. Then tell me why google has spent millions to hire coders to change there algorithm to Index IDN's ?

16. Then tell me why there is suddenly a IDN section here ?

17. Then tell me why RJ spent all last night Searching the forums over at IDNF.com ?

18. * Why are companies using IDN's ?

Try to answer these and then Welcome to the Club :wave:

 

[touchring]

.com?

Thanks for your opinion. We'll miss you.

I think he is referring to compound word, especially so for other languages. There are also lots of "non-prime" dictionary words still available for non-english latin languages.

But do not expect to be able to register loans.com, realestate.com, or apartments.com in Finnish, Czech, or even Romanian. :o

These are long gone ever since PPC came in.

 

[thefabfive]

I still don't believe that terms with Ovt >50k are available in .com. Although they're pretty much gone in IDN.com at this point also.

 

[Rubber Duck]

You can freely register domains with way over 50k ovt.. without them being IDN's.

I think IDN's are garbage, and I'm never going to post in the IDN section again.

I am sure you can in dot BE.

 

[DNWizardX9]

I am sure you can in dot BE.

Actually they are speculating .bz now ;P

 

[mulligan]

You can freely register domains with way over 50k ovt.. without them being IDN's.

I think IDN's are garbage, and I'm never going to post in the IDN section again.

Maybe you could share one as an example? I might be tempted to drop all this 'garbage' if there's 50K+ Ovt ASICC's lying around...

 

[Rom]

Maybe you could share one as an example? I might be tempted to drop all this 'garbage' if there's 50K+ Ovt ASICC's lying around...

"World News" OVT = 75,668
I registered WorldNews.cc few seconds ago.

There are tons more left with much higher overtures even in gTLDs. New products are beeing introduced everyday and overture keeps updating

 

[RJ]

You can freely register domains with way over 50k ovt.. without them being IDN's.

I think IDN's are garbage, and I'm never going to post in the IDN section again.

Maybe you could share one as an example? I might be tempted to drop all this 'garbage' if there's 50K+ Ovt ASICC's lying around...

Do .INFO's or .US count? Both are TLDs with a promising future.

 

[thegenius1]

1. Why are Big Registars in on IDN's ?
So they will make money off people like you.

Last time I checked me and you both are speculators ! but the point of that statement was that Registrars are spending there money on IDNs

2. Why does Bill Gates own IDN's ?
Bill Gates' IDNs are not crappy random names that you register all the time. They are Microsoft product related, so people with IDN keyboard can easily got to their website.

When did crapy become the new term For Good ? IDN Keyboard interesting where can i get one of those ? RAndom when did that replace buying in themes , If you check out my thread Tokyo Real Estate For Sale , you will see i purhcase in themes, and Also note that My crappy names Are also Owned By Japanese Companies , I will give you one of there phone numbers and you can call them and tell them and tell them that they are Crappy and they should use English Domains to make the Ascii Domainers Happy ! phone number : +42.7255549 Fax: +42.7272550
不動産賃貸.com or xn--ihq79i060b7yttb.com just one of many

3. Why did Adam Dickner aka Dot Com God - Buy 5 thousand of them ?
Because he has $ to test them.

To each is own , and my opinion is Nobody can afford to miss this opportunity , but some people will always look at the glass Half Empty instead of Half Full

5. Have you REGd a Domain in the last couple of months with a overture over 50k or even 25k or even 10k ?
Yes, many. (I hope you're not reffering to IDNs). This has nothing to do with IDNs.

Really i thought this thread was about IDN's a , IDN's whaterver you want to call them with these Stats, But keep picking up your .CC more IDN for me

6. Show me a domain you reged in the last couple of weeks that Gets a 80 dollar Bid on the keyword , ie : 新潟不動産.com NiigataRealEstate.com ¥9,999 = 87.2222 USD Top Bid , maderfact show me one that Gets Half of that $43.50 , I'll answer mesothemioma.com been gone, caught and gone again !
Again, this has nothing to do with IDNs.

It has nothing to Do with IDN's for what reason ? This is a IDN >>> 新潟不動産.com , Top bid is $87.22 , Show me a domain you picked up in the 21st century with stats anywhere close

8. Tell me if you would type in Japanse to find out the weather in New York if the internet was invented in Japan ?
Why would you want to know the weather in New York while you are located in Japan?

Now you want to act as if you dont understand the question. Hmm how can i dumb this down ? Got it .... THE JAPANESE INVENTED THE INTERNET, All these years you have been typing in 日本語.com To access Name Pros , You have no choice , As long as you owned a computer you have had to access URLS in JAPANESE >>> Because they Hypotheticaly Invented the internet and didnt want to Deregulate Domains Got it ? So now how would you feel about that ?

9. Then tell me how excited you would be when you find out many years later you can now access domains in English ?
Huh? People have access to English domains for years now, wake up!

Hmm i cant dumb down this question anymore hopefully you can answer it now and not Tap Dance around It

10. Then tell me why people continue to be blind to the fact and insist on Buying ThisDomainIsWorth-RegFee.com instead of atleast looking into IDN's ?
Domain doesn't mean ThisDomainIsWorth-RegFee.com
You are comparing worst names with IDNs.
Yet again, I would actually prefer to have ThisDomainIsWorth-RegFee.com than a crappy IDN.

To each is own , This crappy stuff really rubbed off on you for some reason.

11. Then tell me why people think that they have to do the translations themselves , i guess people never heard of hiring people or outsourcing or the Free IDN tutorial .?
Stop plugging in your "IDN" services. Why they have to do themselves? Huh? Why not? Would you give your Credit Card Info to a stranger? Or why would you hire a person to push your name for you?

Not really sure what point you are trying to make , but from what i can understand it seems like you are digging very deep for an excuse

15. Then tell me why google has spent millions to hire coders to change there algorithm to Index IDN's ?
Because many people like you register crappy IDNs. It will be a gain for Google to have more search results. Also because there would be no point in doing so on internation Google sites, since there would be no explanations in the language how to use the search engine.

This Statement just gets a LOL , So obviously it was worth it to them because they will make money correct ? , which means who else will make money ?

16. Then tell me why there is suddenly a IDN section here ?
Why? Ask RJ.

Maybe you should ask him , Last time i checkd he was looking for Korean IDN's

Try to answer these and then Welcome to the Club
Do you think you're the boss here? This section is open to anyone, and nobody would care what you think nor your imaginary IDN diplomas.

Actually i was implying that after you figuired out that tap dancing around certain questions was not going to change the fact IDNs are The future and for those that agree welcome to the IDN club

 

[Dan]

Okay, I lied.

When did crapy become the new term For Good ? IDN Keyboard interesting where can i get one of those ? RAndom when did that replace buying in themes , If you check out my thread Tokyo Real Estate For Sale , you will see i purhcase in themes, and Also note that My crappy names Are also Owned By Japanese Companies , I give you one of there phone numbers and you can call them and tell them that they are Crappy and they should use English Domains to make the Ascii Domainers Happy ! phone number : +42.7255549 Fax: +42.7272550
www.不動産賃貸.com just one of many

And you expect me to go to ?????.com when I can't see that?

I couldn't finish reading the rest of your post. Your horrible writing is giving me a headache.

 

[thegenius1]

Okay, I lied.



And you expect me to go to ?????.com when I can't see that?

I couldn't finish reading the rest of your post. Your horrible writing is giving me a headache.

Sorry the TRUTH HURTS , but you should download firefox or get the IE7 beta.

 

[duskdawn]

Hey guys, I think we need to stop here.
IDNs are just another niche in domain investment industry. If you see the value then you join if you doubt it then just step back and ignore this section. Anyone has rights to follow whatever direction he foresee and there's no point to argue a lot on this issue. You ride your BMW while I drive my Benz. As simple as it is.
Peace!

 

[thegenius1]

Hey guys, I think we need to stop here.
IDNs are just another niche in domain investment industry. If you see the value then you join if you doubt it then just step back and ignore this section. Anyone has rights to follow whatever direction he foresee and there's no point to argue a lot on this issue.
Peace!

I agree with you and i Rest My Case , maybe they should open up a debate section lol , but seriously im done with this Good Luck to all , peace and blessing

 

[DNWizardX9]

If these people are so against IDN's then why do they keep browsing the IDN section? Looks like they have too much time on their hands.

Maybe this hasn't been stressed before but people are finding 50k ovt DOT COM IDN domains . (not .cc)

The point genius was trying to make is that if ICANN and Microsoft were Chinese companies Americans would be singing a different tune. China has over a billion population so our market is small compared to theirs. (within the next 10 years theirs will be bigger) The internet would have had chinese urls and nothing in english. We would have had to go directly to an english search engine to find sites as we could not type in the urls in chinese as we would not know the language.


Tourists departing from Japan to NY want to know the weather in NY before they depart.

The reason why we keep coming back and responding to these threads is that you guys are passing along a ton of misinformation. Thegenius's posts are far from unprofessional. I thought they were written well. I was an editor of a major print magazine and I like his writing style.

 

[white_crane]

Maybe this hasn't been stressed before but people are finding 50k ovt DOT COM IDN domains . (not .cc)

Chump change.

新聞定期購読, meaning Newspaper Subscriptions in Japanese has an OVT of 5 929 855.

That's right, say it again, Five Million Nine Hundred Thousand Overture.

These are the kinds of domains that early investors in IDNs have sitting in their portfolios.

Not that 50K is bad today. It is just that only a couple of months ago, people were passing up anything bellow 100K in Japanese.

 

[DNWizardX9]

Chump change.

新聞定期購読, meaning Newspaper Subscriptions in Japanese has an OVT of 5 929 855.

That's right, say it again, Five Million Nine Hundred Thousand Overture.

These are the kinds of domains that early investors in IDNs have sitting in their portfolios.

Not that 50K is bad today. It is just that only a couple of months ago, people were passing up anything bellow 100K in Japanese.

I actually own the .jp :P - used to be 6 million +

ah well hehehhe

Anyways for those interested in getting in the market. I just picked up programmer.net in japanese 2 weeks ago. I read on a site that one of the hottest jobs in Japan is being a programmer. There should be no excuses.

 

[briman1970]

Actually, he added one a while ago. :]

I knew that was gonna get confused. :hehe:

One thing I'd like to know is, when Japanese and Chinese businesses finally realize that all the good to premium IDN .com & .net domains are now sitting as parked pages with English links on them (ie: www.新聞定期購読.net (newspaper subscriptions)), what will they do? Where are the businesses/individuals who can't afford $10,000 USD for a domain going to go? Will they just go reg or purchase their IDN name in .cn or .jp extensions (which are supposed to be protected from outside registrations) or will ICANN be pressured to create special new extensions, so that Japanese/Chinese businesses and individuals can have their internet returned to them.

Maybe I'm being naive?

BTW, abrasive responses to my posts are unwelcome.

 

[white_crane]

Where are the businesses/individuals who can't afford $10,000 USD for a domain going to go? Will they just go reg or purchase their IDN name in .cn or .jp extensions (which are supposed to be protected from outside registrations) or will ICANN be pressured to create special new extensions, so that Japanese/Chinese businesses and individuals can have their internet returned to them.

First of all, many top IDNs were in fact registered by Japanese companies.

Second of all, 10K is not a lot of money in Japan, where the average savings of a houshold is above 100K with no debt. Also, to open a business it takes a lot of money, much more than 10K.

Several months ago a Japanese poster on the IDN forum was reporting that he was selling his domains - in person - some for 10K a peice - to end users in Tokyo.

The kind of question you are asking has to do with the nature of all domain investing.

Say you are a poor start-up company in New York. What do you do if you go to register the company name you want to incorporate and you find out that it is taken? What do you do if all the .com's in your line of business are selling for over 100K?

Actually, big businesses have the least to worry about. They simply use their trade names as their domains. And if those are taken, they can get those back very easily through arbitration.

What will they do? They will get non generic domains like the rest of the googles, yahoos, idnpros, and everyone else.

What will they also do? They will buy names. Simple.

The notion that .jp is protected is not correct. You can even register .jp's on non-Japanese registrars.

 

[DNWizardX9]

It is true. Many of the top IDNs are owned by Japanese who are already asking one million + for their IDNs while the Americans want XX,XXX.

This amount is hardly insane as that is how much people spend to open businesses. Also rent can be a few thousand a month so you have to look at the bigger picture.

 

[briman1970]

Good info guys. I didn't realize .jp was unprotected from outside reg. What about the parking link problem? Why do all the Japanese IDNs I visit have parked pages with English ads (including my own at Sedo). Where can you go for parking pages that actually display ads in the language of the IDN?

Thanks for the informative posts.

 

[Ben]

Good info guys. I didn't realize .jp was unprotected from outside reg. What about the parking link problem? Why do all the Japanese IDNs I visit have parked pages with English ads (including my own at Sedo). Where can you go for parking pages that actually display ads in the language of the IDN?

Thanks for the informative posts.

Have you tried visiting them from a Japanese IP?