Not sure about IDN's ? Ask yourself These Questions !

[thegenius1]

1. Why are Big Registars in on IDN's ?

2. Why does Bill Gates own IDN's ?

3. Why did Adam Dickner aka Dot Com God - Buy 5 thousand of them ?

4. Check the sales threads at djnournal & http://www.idntools.net/idnsales.php

5. Have you REGd a Domain in the last couple of months with a overture over 50k or even 25k or even 10k ?

6. Show me a domain you reged in the last couple of weeks that Gets a 80 dollar Bid on the keyword , ie : 新潟不動産.com NiigataRealEstate.com ¥9,999 = 87.2222 USD Top Bid , maderfact show me one that Gets Half of that $43.50 , I'll answer mesothemioma.com been gone, caught and gone again !

7. Explain to me why so many people think that everybody speaks english ?

When the Fact is

Total number of users with European languages (excluding English): 276 million

Total number of users with Asian languages (excluding English): 241 million

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_internet_usage

8. Tell me if you would type in Japanse to find out the weather in New York if the internet was invented in Japan ? If ICANN and Microsoft were Japanese companies what tune would you be singing ?

9. Then tell me how excited you would be when you find out many years later you can now access domains in English ?

10. Then tell me why people continue to be blind to the fact and insist on Buying ThisDomainIsWorth-RegFee.com instead of atleast looking into IDN's ?

11. Then tell me why people think that they have to do the translations themselves , i guess people never heard of hiring people or outsourcing or the Free IDN tutorial .?

15. Then tell me why google has spent millions to hire coders to change there algorithm to Index IDN's ?

16. Then tell me why there is suddenly a IDN section here ?

17. Then tell me why RJ spent all last night Searching the forums over at IDNF.com ?

18. * Why are companies using IDN's ?

Try to answer these and then Welcome to the Club :wave:

 

[donlee]

let me play let me play

1. "adam dicker aka DOT COM GOD" - if you are going to refer to this man as your messiah, please don't hessitate to attend his church at the other end of the road.

2. yes you are trying to convince people to buy IDN's because you own many that will probably turn into a profit for you when you finally convince some of them.

3. english is the language i do business in, therefore i will stick to ascii domains

4. nothing wrong with investing in IDN's at all, but just remember it's not for everyone

5. blasting RJ on another forum just shows your lack of respect in general for other domainers, and if this forum is "just kids" why would you want an IDN forum here anyways? now i will say, i like NP for some reasons, and dislike it for some reason, but no where will you find me posting about the negatives or ranting and raving about them, instead i am more interested in doing something different that serves my purpose. if i was RJ i would tell you all to f*ck off

6. you are not helping your cause at all with all this nonsence, if IDN's are going to be HUGE, then guess what you can laugh at all of us on your way to the top! if not we can laugh at you on your way down. thats just how the world works. but for something that is going to be so HUGE you sure do seem that you are wanting to convince lots of people, but there is an old addage that goes "actions speak louder than words"

7. who cares if bill gates owns IDN's, he probably owns a pink thong also cause it makes him feel pretty but i will stick to my boxer shorts for the comfort.

well i don't know if any of that makes any sence but thought i would share

 

[Michelle]

7. who cares if bill gates owns IDN's, he probably owns a pink thong also cause it makes him feel pretty but i will stick to my boxer shorts for the comfort.

:yell: Gave me a smile ty...


Such a shame a handful of childish members can make another forum look so bad.


Long live namepros

 

[Rubber Duck]

Because he is a <Edited NPStaff ™>.

The sole purpose of this thread is to get members to your shitty forum, saying RJ is arrogant etc - have you seen your forum what a bunch of knobheads.

Well if this contribution is suppose to convey a positive message of any kind, I think you can assume it has failed. Adam Dicker is a highly knowledgible and respected domainer and a longtime IDN sceptic. He is now doing what he can to develop the IDN Forums at DNFs as he sees it as not only being essential to his business, but beneficial to his members. I think he will admit that most of his information was initially assembled at IDNFs, which like it or loath it is a unique resource for domainers. One would hope that much of the more important content could be imparted here so that those members of Namepros that interested and wish to become involved can do so with maximum amount of support. Those that do not are of course free to pursue their interests elsewhere, but we would hope that if you enter this subforum that was specifically established for IDNers, then you will respect the IDN ethos. For my part I can assure you that I have little interest in contributing to threads on other parts of this forum or going into the Chat Room where so much of the trouble has arisen. Personally, I do not take much interest in Chat Rooms, but was only having a nose around to see what was going on, when things rather blew up in my face last night. Perhaps that is lesson not to play with things I don't understand.

 

[Rubber Duck]

No. My main comment was not referring to any specific person. It was a general statement referring to anybody and everybody that was rude and disrespectful towards RJ and NamePros. The last part of my post might have referred to you, if you are one of the people with the user titles I mentioned, but that was just used as an example. Nothing personal.


Not by me. And judging from your lack of past activity here, not by other NamePros members. We are friendly and respectful here. All we ask is the same thing in return.


I don't have a problem with you. I don't even know you. You are probably a great guy.

But without a doubt, I think a business/investment related forum that allows such titles and language to be posted openly, is juvenile and unprofessional. Certainly not the type place I (or most people I know) would take seriously.

Anyway... back to the wonderful world of IDN's.

Respect. I guess we have developed our own group and subculture that perhaps is not always transparent to outsiders, but our membership is drawn from most cultures and most countries and there is a fair degree of tolerance, but of course there is also certain amount of horse play.

Don't tell me Adam is your boyfriend

I have never met Adam. We may not even have stepped foot on the same continent.

You guys talk about respect then when someone else asks the same, we get this childish sexual inuendo. Well frankly I am confident about my sexuality, and don't need to show you the size of my member, to exponge any lerking insecurities.

 

[Michelle]

Well frankly I am confident about my sexuality, and don't need to show you the size of my member, to exponge any lerking insecurities.

Shame :hehe:

 

[Rubber Duck]

Hey I have no problem with IDN's I will probably get one or two just because they have cool letters.. But.. What is the point of making and forum than insulting the owner of THIS forum. Than insulting the people who believe in what they believe in.. This has turned from a discussion on IDN's to somebody trying to prove somebody wrong.

It should be kept as a discussion.

- Steve

Totally, agree. I don't think anyone got into domaining except for the opportunity to make huge amounts of cash. I got out of conventional ASCII domains because it became apparent that I had missed out on the really big opportunities, and that to score big I need big ideas. Pool was more or less killing off the drops game where I focused at the time, and it was clear that I didn't have the IT skills necessary to getting into scripting or data mining. Then I dropped on the IDN game. There were huge opportunities here as a number of things became apparent.

It was clear that many of the initial issues that caused the orginal collapse of interest were being resolved just as many of the initial investors were dropping their intial registrations. Many more translations facilities had come on line in the intervening period, and Unicode scripts were being added that had previously not been available. Confusion was everywhere, but so were god given opportunities. We stumbled into a handful of total unfamilar languages and scripts, and we made lots of mistakes but the uniqueness of the domains we picked up in the earlier days was mesmirising. Unfortunately, if anything we not sufficiently ambitious enough by half which enabled others like Giant of IDNFs to pick up even better stuff. The one big advantage we had though was a total ignorance of the languages we were speculating in. That meant that unlike most other investors at the time we did not restrict ourselves to what we knew, but branched out into uncharted territory. It was a madness on a scale that dwarfed the great game of the Nineteenth Century.

 

[mulligan]

True these languages may be many millions of years old.. But I have still to see a Mespotaimian keyboard.

Because YOU havnt seen it doesnt mean it doesnt exist.

Heres a list of keyboards available for purchase:

Arabic
Belgian
Bulgarian
Burmese
Chinese
Croatian/Slovenian
Czech
Danish
Dutch
Estonian
Farsi
French Canadian
French European
German
Greek
Hebrew
Hindi
Hungarian
Italian
Japanese
Korean
Latin American
Macedonian
Nepali
Norwegian
Polish
Portuguese
Russian Cyrillic
Sinhala
Slovak
Spanish
Swedish/Finnish
Swiss
Tamil
Thai
Urdu
Vietnamese
http://www.customkeys.com/foreign.html

As much as you guys don't get it. When you are in a business. Why would you want to limit your market to only a certain group? You know how many different styles of Chinese and Japenese there is? Aswell as the other languages..

Rubber Ducky. (aswell as the others who quoted my post) It is my opnion and it will be left as my opnion. I see your opnion and it is fine.

- Steve

English is ranked 4th by native speakers.
Chinese, Hindi and Spanish being spoken by more people.
So you think 1080,000,000 Chimese people would rather buy books on the internet in English?

If you get IDN's you are limiting your market to those of that language.

Logic tells me that it would be preferable to target the 1080,000,000 Chinese speakers than the 322,000,000 English speakers

Atleast English can be very easily translated int to your own language.

Wrong. A lot of what you would call foreign languages cant be translated into English. In fact English is one of the least expressive languages there is.

 

[vslevin]

Sweetie I mean if everything was invented in China or Japan. (MS being a Chinese company, Verisign being a Chinese company etc) What is so hard to understand. It's obvious.

Sweetie? That's just creepy.

I completely disagree with you, which is fine, but with the prominence of America economically, the Internet would not have gone so long with its citizens being completely alienated from the Internet.

]The fact that you seem to consider this acceptable whilst being aghast at the concept of the same thing happening to English speakers shows a biggoted, if not racist, perspective in my opinion.

And where did I say that it was acceptable? While you try to make IDNs sound like a new concept and are a huge humanitarian effort, they have been around for a long time, they have simply just picked up steam into becoming fully implemented.

I have not once said that I do not support IDNs, I was simply responding to somebody's arguement which I didn't agree with.

You and others are not doing a good job at promoting IDNs. You (referring to what I've seen at IDNF and a little of here, not you specifically) have continually attacked this community, and have been trying to shove IDNs down our throats. If they are such a gold mine, why are you trying to force everyone into registering them? Why won't you save all of them for yourselves? From what I've seen of the passionate IDN'rs, if someone doesn't want to invest in them, they are a ignorant racist who doesn't recognize any language other than English. I can't speak for others, but while I do support the implementation of IDNs into modern browsers, I am not going to invest in them, because I am not familiar with the languages. That does not make me a racist or a bigot, just a wise and level-headed investor.

 

[thegenius1]

I completely disagree with you, which is fine, but with the prominence of America economically, the Internet would not have gone so long with its citizens being completely alienated from the Internet.

So imagine the New Leaps and Bounds we will Reach with some of the most inovative people now being " not alienated " and I'll also add that is a Few Billion more people joining this party

And on the note of why are we not keeping this a secret, some of the newbies on our forum would probably ask us to shut up because they want get the portfolios up but we feel there is enough to go around hate it or love it

 

[vslevin]

So imagine the New Leaps and Bounds we will Reach with some of the most inovative people now being " not alienated " and I'll also add that is a Few Billion more people joining this party

And on the note of why are we not keeping this a secret, some of the newbies on our forum would probably ask us to shut up because they want get the portfolios up but we feel there is enough to go around hate it or love it

It'll be great with more people being able to use the Internet in their native language completely, but billions more won't be joining the party. The world population isn't much more than 6 billion, and users in Japan, China, and other countries have been using the internet for a long time. It'll make it easier, but I don't think it'll cause many more people to start using the internet.

 

[DNWizardX9]

It'll be great with more people being able to use the Internet in their native language completely, but billions more won't be joining the party. The world population isn't much more than 6 billion, and users in Japan, China, and other countries have been using the internet for a long time. It'll make it easier, but I don't think it'll cause many more people to start using the internet.

Hate to ruin your glorious post but a small percentage of Chinese citizens now browse the net.(around the size of the U.S. population)


In a few years more of their citizens will get online which will be at least a few hundred million. We are talking about typin as well as users will now be able to type the URL in their native language in the address bar.

 

[thegenius1]

It'll be great with more people being able to use the Internet in their native language completely, but billions more won't be joining the party. The world population isn't much more than 6 billion, and users in Japan, China, and other countries have been using the internet for a long time. It'll make it easier, but I don't think it'll cause many more people to start using the internet.

Argue what you wish thousands ,millions , billions , trillions lol , the bottom line is million- billions of people will be affected by IDN's .. whether they can view the Net or not , Advertising will be one of the biggest benafactors of idns, and as time passes and more people can afford computers and come into our second hand ones the Net's population will cont. to grow , the bottom line is IDN's are long overdue , do you want to dispute that to ?

 

[Ben]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_on_the_Internet

 

[Rubber Duck]

It'll be great with more people being able to use the Internet in their native language completely, but billions more won't be joining the party. The world population isn't much more than 6 billion, and users in Japan, China, and other countries have been using the internet for a long time. It'll make it easier, but I don't think it'll cause many more people to start using the internet.

Governments of India and China beg to differ!

 

[Rom]

1. Why are Big Registars in on IDN's ?
So they will make money off people like you.

2. Why does Bill Gates own IDN's ?
Bill Gates' IDNs are not crappy random names that you register all the time. They are Microsoft product related, so people with IDN keyboard can easily got to their website.

3. Why did Adam Dickner aka Dot Com God - Buy 5 thousand of them ?
Because he has $ to test them.

4. Check the sales threads at djnournal & http://www.idntools.net/idnsales.php
Ok?

5. Have you REGd a Domain in the last couple of months with a overture over 50k or even 25k or even 10k ?
Yes, many. (I hope you're not reffering to IDNs). This has nothing to do with IDNs.

6. Show me a domain you reged in the last couple of weeks that Gets a 80 dollar Bid on the keyword , ie : 新潟不動産.com NiigataRealEstate.com ¥9,999 = 87.2222 USD Top Bid , maderfact show me one that Gets Half of that $43.50 , I'll answer mesothemioma.com been gone, caught and gone again !
Again, this has nothing to do with IDNs.

7. Explain to me why so many people think that everybody speaks english ?

When the Fact is

Total number of users with European languages (excluding English): 276 million

Total number of users with Asian languages (excluding English): 241 million

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_internet_usage
Everyone? Who said it? Show me anything (Except a post by a n00bie).

8. Tell me if you would type in Japanse to find out the weather in New York if the internet was invented in Japan ?
Why would you want to know the weather in New York while you are located in Japan?

9. Then tell me how excited you would be when you find out many years later you can now access domains in English ?
Huh? People have access to English domains for years now, wake up!

10. Then tell me why people continue to be blind to the fact and insist on Buying ThisDomainIsWorth-RegFee.com instead of atleast looking into IDN's ?
Domain doesn't mean ThisDomainIsWorth-RegFee.com
You are comparing worst names with IDNs.
Yet again, I would actually prefer to have ThisDomainIsWorth-RegFee.com than a crappy IDN.

11. Then tell me why people think that they have to do the translations themselves , i guess people never heard of hiring people or outsourcing or the Free IDN tutorial .?
Stop plugging in your "IDN" services. Why they have to do themselves? Huh? Why not? Would you give your Credit Card Info to a stranger? Or why would you hire a person to push your name for you?

15. Then tell me why google has spent millions to hire coders to change there algorithm to Index IDN's ?
Because many people like you register crappy IDNs. It will be a gain for Google to have more search results. Also because there would be no point in doing so on internation Google sites, since there would be no explanations in the language how to use the search engine.

16. Then tell me why there is suddenly a IDN section here ?
Why? Ask RJ.

17. Then tell me why RJ spent all last night Searching the forums over at IDNF.com ?
You annoyed the hell out of RJ. Whenever you come to the chatroom, all you do it talk about IDNs to yourself. What's the point of you advertising IDNs? IDNs aren't a property of yours or anything, so there's no gain for you. If you think IDNs are wirth billion $$$, then why are you trying to get competition?

Try to answer these and then Welcome to the Club
Do you think you're the boss here? This section is open to anyone, and nobody would care what you think nor your imaginary IDN diplomas.

Have a nice day.

 

[DNWizardX9]

1. Why are Big Registars in on IDN's ?
So they will make money off people like you.

2. Why does Bill Gates own IDN's ?
Bill Gates' IDNs are not crappy random names that you register all the time. They are Microsoft product related, so people with IDN keyboard can easily got to their website.

3. Why did Adam Dickner aka Dot Com God - Buy 5 thousand of them ?
Because he has $ to test them.

4. Check the sales threads at djnournal & http://www.idntools.net/idnsales.php
Ok?

5. Have you REGd a Domain in the last couple of months with a overture over 50k or even 25k or even 10k ?
Yes, many. (I hope you're not reffering to IDNs). This has nothing to do with IDNs.

6. Show me a domain you reged in the last couple of weeks that Gets a 80 dollar Bid on the keyword , ie : 新潟不動産.com NiigataRealEstate.com ¥9,999 = 87.2222 USD Top Bid , maderfact show me one that Gets Half of that $43.50 , I'll answer mesothemioma.com been gone, caught and gone again !
Again, this has nothing to do with IDNs.

7. Explain to me why so many people think that everybody speaks english ?

When the Fact is

Total number of users with European languages (excluding English): 276 million

Total number of users with Asian languages (excluding English): 241 million

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_internet_usage
Everyone? Who said it? Show me anything (Except a post by a n00bie).

8. Tell me if you would type in Japanse to find out the weather in New York if the internet was invented in Japan ?
Why would you want to know the weather in New York while you are located in Japan?

9. Then tell me how excited you would be when you find out many years later you can now access domains in English ?
Huh? People have access to English domains for years now, wake up!

10. Then tell me why people continue to be blind to the fact and insist on Buying ThisDomainIsWorth-RegFee.com instead of atleast looking into IDN's ?
Domain doesn't mean ThisDomainIsWorth-RegFee.com
You are comparing worst names with IDNs.
Yet again, I would actually prefer to have ThisDomainIsWorth-RegFee.com than a crappy IDN.

11. Then tell me why people think that they have to do the translations themselves , i guess people never heard of hiring people or outsourcing or the Free IDN tutorial .?
Stop plugging in your "IDN" services. Why they have to do themselves? Huh? Why not? Would you give your Credit Card Info to a stranger? Or why would you hire a person to push your name for you?

15. Then tell me why google has spent millions to hire coders to change there algorithm to Index IDN's ?
Because many people like you register crappy IDNs. It will be a gain for Google to have more search results. Also because there would be no point in doing so on internation Google sites, since there would be no explanations in the language how to use the search engine.

16. Then tell me why there is suddenly a IDN section here ?
Why? Ask RJ.

17. Then tell me why RJ spent all last night Searching the forums over at IDNF.com ?
You annoyed the hell out of RJ. Whenever you come to the chatroom, all you do it talk about IDNs to yourself. What's the point of you advertising IDNs? IDNs aren't a property of yours or anything, so there's no gain for you. If you think IDNs are wirth billion $$$, then why are you trying to get competition?

Try to answer these and then Welcome to the Club
Do you think you're the boss here? This section is open to anyone, and nobody would care what you think nor your imaginary IDN diplomas.

Have a nice day.

List the domains you have regged with 25k-50k ovt lately...
You must be the Czar of domains to have that kind of luck. Please do tell us your secret.

Nobody annoyed the hell out of RJ. People should be able to
talk freely about IDN's without being ridiculed.

IDNs are crappy? Why are my arabic and thai names getting traffic?

 

[B33R]

Wow, do you ever give up?

You've obviously not absorbed one word people have posted over the past 3 pages. It's time to turn this into a reasonable discussion sub-forum and quit all the arguing.

So what if Rom has posted something that you don't agree with. Just get on with what this forum is about - IDN's and NOT all this pathetic arguing. Start doing something for IDN's instead of alienating the entire NamePros community with your petty pointless squabbles.

Question 16: Then tell me why there is suddenly a IDN section here ?
I have no clue. If he knew it would bring people like you and your friends here, I'm certain he wouldn't have bothered.

The sooner he kicks you out/you give up arguing, the sooner the IDN forum can move onto a solid footing, earn some well needed respect from the rest of the forum and maybe even recruit some normal domainers into the realms of IDNs.

I think that'll only happen when you stop this behavior, get serious about IDN's and, more importantly, start respecting the rest of the NamePros community.

 

[Rom]

List the domains you have regged with 25k-50k ovt lately...
You must be the Czar of domains to have that kind of luck. Please do tell us your secret.
There are still many available keywords with 25k-50k. That's nothing special. Also what does this have to do with IDNs?

Nobody annoyed the hell out of RJ. People should be able to
talk freely about IDN's without being ridiculed.
Talking freely = naming IDN sales topics "Buy this before RJ does"?
Talking freely = asking all you friends at IDN forum to come here and post against RJ?

IDNs are crappy? Why are my arabic and thai names getting traffic?
Ask yourself, you're the king of IDNs

 

[Dan]

You can freely register domains with way over 50k ovt.. without them being IDN's.

I think IDN's are garbage, and I'm never going to post in the IDN section again.

 

[thefabfive]

You can freely register domains with way over 50k ovt.. without them being IDN's.

.com?

Thanks for your opinion. We'll miss you.