Nobel.com for free?

[RegFee]

http://www.fourhourworkweek.com/blo...-pro-10-tips-from-the-founder-of-phonetagcom/

Dead Pages - Nothing comes up, does not mean it is available. It’s hard to draw any conclusions from these names, other than that the owner is not making money off of it. Nobel.com was a dead page. I found the owner, a large insurance company, convinced them that they should give us the name (we had Nobelcom.com) and, surprisingly, they did. In contacting the company, I figured a CEO or high-level person will hold me over the barrel for money and a low level person will not have the authority, so I went to a VP level in the IT area. My company was NobelCom.com, and I pleaded on a human level that they would be helping a young entrepreneurial company. It worked. For the VP to do the paperwork to sell the domain was harder than just giving it to us. Part luck, part skill. That domain is probably worth north of $50,000.

I knew I was doing something wrong.

Nameproscom.com is available. I wonder if it would be harder for RJ to do the paperwork to sell namepros.com than it would be for him to give it away.
:hehe:

 

[DNabc]

Just... wow... an insurance company gave the domain, without asking anything in return...

 

[tech4]

Considering someone who say they spend 4 hours a week, managing that site, with a $250K budget spending spree. I doubt its 4 hours a week.

Take a look at the 10 steps to buying a domain name and negotiation. Its like a three page reading into 1.

Not to mention, there's not a "how to sell technique" on that page. With 214 Backlinks and 78 page view per day. http://www.websiteoutlook.com/www.thefourhourworkweek.com

A PR=6. 4 hrs? not likely

I am estimating 4 hours a day. At least. Not a 4 hours a week.

 

[Auraka]

That is ridiculous, I hope that company realizes what happened and fired that vp.

 

[-Adam-]

Interesting and clever tactic indeed.

 

[-REECE-]

I wonder how long before we see a thread on Namepros for investors in com.com domains :hehe:

http://www.fourhourworkweek.com/blo...-pro-10-tips-from-the-founder-of-phonetagcom/



I knew I was doing something wrong.

Nameproscom.com is available. I wonder if it would be harder for RJ to do the paperwork to sell namepros.com than it would be for him to give it away.
:hehe:

 

[RegFee]

I wonder how long before we see a thread on Namepros for investors in com.com domains :hehe:

It will be titled "OFFICIAL com.com discussion thread"

 

[ssamriga]

Am I the only one who thinks it's a dirty "technique"?
If the owner didn't know the real value and was practically scammed out of his domain.
It is of course ok, if the buyer informed the seller that the name is valuable, but the seller still didn't want to go through the paperwork of selling it.
Hopefully the name will really be used only for a legitimate business not resale...

 

[Archangel]

I see it as being okay. We domainers (and everyone, really) aren't obligated to tell people that their domains have value. It'd be wrong to tell them that it's worthless when it's not. But I see nothing wrong with acquiring a domain cheap/free if the seller wasn't informed of value. I wouldn't be stupid enough to say, "You want $1,000 for your abc.com. It's worth $10k easily but I'll take it for $1,000!"

In fact, who would?

Am I the only one who thinks it's a dirty "technique"?
If the owner didn't know the real value and was practically scammed out of his domain.
It is of course ok, if the buyer informed the seller that the name is valuable, but the seller still didn't want to go through the paperwork of selling it.
Hopefully the name will really be used only for a legitimate business not resale...

 

[JoshuaPz]

Am I the only one who thinks it's a dirty "technique"?
If the owner didn't know the real value and was practically scammed out of his domain.
It is of course ok, if the buyer informed the seller that the name is valuable, but the seller still didn't want to go through the paperwork of selling it.
Hopefully the name will really be used only for a legitimate business not resale...

It is a dirty technique and I find it morally objectionable, but unfortunately I think it's necessary to play a little dirty to succeed in this business. Not wading through a few loops in the domain industry is similar to not studying for the SATs. Yes -- in an ideal world, nobody would study for the SATs and the test would measure true aptitude. But that world dissolved 35 years ago when Barron's published their pilot SAT study book. Now, if you neglect to study, you put yourself at a distinct competitive disadvantage.

When I purchase domains off their owners, I usually offer them some money for their trouble, and only move forward with the transaction if it's pretty clear they're neither utilizing the domain nor ever intend to. That way, they at least receive some compensation for a domain they might eventually have allowed to drop.

 

[gemstar]

Am I the only one who thinks it's a dirty "technique"?
If the owner didn't know the real value and was practically scammed out of his domain.
It is of course ok, if the buyer informed the seller that the name is valuable, but the seller still didn't want to go through the paperwork of selling it.
Hopefully the name will really be used only for a legitimate business not resale...

I think so too.. If you know the value and your not obviously asking for that domain because of anything else but that. I guess you won't go for dfdfdf.com.
This was targeted. If you convinced a nieve person to give it to you then you are suckering him out of what was truly his in the first place.Not ethical IMO
Same goes for Real Estate ethics


Oh and by the way you can probably be sued if this company get's wind of this topic..Clearly shows motive to decieve

 

[mvl]

It will be titled "OFFICIAL com.com discussion thread"

And don't forget about the "Final official *com.com countdown" thread and the "[POLL] When do you think *com.com will be all gone?" thread.

 

[Archangel]

How is it bad? ANYONE who offers to sell something should know the market. Same with giving it away. Offer me Action Comics #1 for free and I'll gladly accept it. It's not unethical to get a valuable item cheap/free even if the owner doesn't know its value. It's the owner who should have researched before giving it away. Can a person bitch that they failed a test simply because he/she didn't study?

 

[gemstar]

How is it bad? ANYONE who offers to sell something should know the market. Same with giving it away. Offer me Action Comics #1 for free and I'll gladly accept it. It's not unethical to get a valuable item cheap/free even if the owner doesn't know its value. It's the owner who should have researched before giving it away. Can a person bitch that they failed a test simply because he/she didn't study?

Action#1 would be nice
:tu:

 

[Archangel]

Action#1 would be nice
:tu:

I'm more of a Spider-Man fan & have wanted Amazing Fantasy #15 Original Print (Silver Age) for a long time :D

 

[Ross]

I read this thread yesterday and was like whatever good for them. But the more i look at their site and see what they write about i am thinking this was a reverse hijack IMO.

For those of you talking about the com.com thing, well the domain is not a typo. The "com" in "NobelCom" stands for "Communication". Another supporting fact that i think this situation was a reverse hijacking. The people of the site even talk about "threatening" the previous owner of grid.com over a contract that was apparently agreed upon(who knows) but was settled out of court. The language used on their site like "saquatter pages" ect just makes me even more bullish on the intentions of these people.

These are just my opinions !

EDIT: The domain was actually put in to the current owners hands in 2005(I think). For an insurance agency to just give up an asset like that is amazing to me. Especially in 2005.

 

[-Adam-]

Ross, I read through his page as well and he does refer to domainers as "squatters" even if it's in a good context according to him. It very well may have been a reverse hijack or even an extortion type of situation but the devils in the details and we don't have all the details.

I do agree for them to release something so carelessly should require some type of internal investigation in the matter.