advice New TLDs vs .com

[Berserker]

Hi,

For a business or any website really, if both xxxxxx.yyyyy and xxxxxxyyyyy.com are available (xxxxxx being the project name and yyyyy the "new TLD" extension), which one to choose? Or you "need" to register and maintain both?

Examples:
example.news & examplenews.com
example.monster & examplemonster.com
name.pro & namepro.com (if "pros" hadn't a "s")
etc.

What would be best if you would like to avoid paying 2 extensions every year for each project falling in this situation? (and you would probably need to redirect one to the other to centralize everything on one for the search engines and SEO).

 

[topdom]

Why would amazon lose the UDRP ?

Amazon is a generic keyword. But it still needs a good defense, for example you can say I was planning to sell stuff coming out of Amazon river, or sell this domain to someone who would do such things. By default Amazon Inc should lose, but we need to take corruption into account.

 

[Future Sensors]

This is what I was talking about. See the highlighted renewal cost.
That's approx. $1250 (USD).

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Or USD 873.09 renewal fee at Porkbun.
Just to state the difference between registrars here.

 

[nydomain]

.com is king due to widespread adoption and millions in marketing. Long term my opinion is we’ll see even more demand for .com driving up the prices to new heights, but also increased demand for .org, .net, maybe a few others like .io or .co due to scarcity of .com

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That said, long term I do think only the very best new tlds will also do well if they make sense (like coin.shop or real.estate) and if renewal prices don’t cost an arm and a leg.

 

[topdom]

It depends, I think .com is usually safer. But I would prefer swiss.shop to swissshop.com

 

[HotKey]

Some tlds have really high renewal costs, though it may get in your bag cheaper for 1st year. Once it's developed, you have no option but to bear the renewal costs..

Yep great point, that's the downside to many if not most new TLD's, particularly the ones labeled as "premium". Not only can it be expensive to register, but it doesn't end there- year after year it's costly to keep. Not a great prospect for a startup on limited coin, even worse prospect for domain investors.

It's why .com and other legacy extensions remain so lucrative, not to mention their popularity. The upfront cost on an aftermarket dot-com is just a lot less troublesome to deal with, it's a one-time thing even though the quality of the name might take a backseat to a shorter and better fitting new G' counterpart.

 

[Berserker]

@DOMAIN ILLUMINATI I don't think he meant this kind of security. I understood he meant a "safe choice" (you can't go wrong if you choose the .com over anything else).

 

[Reddstagg]

It depends, I think .com is usually safer. But I would prefer swiss.shop to swissshop.com

Or, you could also have Swiss-Shop .com - this is in my humble opinion easier to read and it's a dot.com to boot.

 

[NewDayBrand]

This is what I was talking about. See the highlighted renewal cost.
That's approx. $1250 (USD).


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Bro.. why are you climbing a mountain that is too high for you now?.. you just started, one letter is too expansive. try with one words and two words that work perfectly with the extension. they are cheaper than one letter

 

[Berserker]

@topdom That's exactly the question! swiss.shop or swissshop.com?
So, what are you saying? It depends on how it sounds and may be different according to each name? I feel it would especially depend on the extension then, wouldn't it?
According to your own preference: swiss.community or swisscommunity.com? swiss.network or swissnetwork.com? swiss.one or swissone.com? (open question to everybody, not limited to Topdom)

@Meadows Yes, I agree, but as @Future Sensors mentioned, that's not a "new TLD". This is a question of country-specific vs international. Different question.

 

[Future Sensors]

As in the original question both gTLD and newgTLD are available, I'd certainly register both. Otherwise you're leaking visitors. Or another company will take the name. What domain to choose for your branding, well... that may be interesting and depends on a lot of factors not available here.

 

[DOMAIN ILLUMINATI]

It depends, I think .com is usually safer.

I am aware you don't wrote that .com is generally safer - however, I want to add that it can be a trap if one thinks "it's a .com so it must be safe", security depends primarily on HTTPS (and on common sense of course) but not on the chosen TLD itself.

 

[Domainstore]

I don't like swissshop.com because there are 3 consecutive s' . it can easily be confused with 2 and 4 consecutive s versions.

Also amazon.shop would be more valuable than amazonshop.com. In the second domain not many would be interested. in the first case Amazon Inc would go to UDRP and lose, and after this event it would become a pure premium domain.

Why would amazon lose the UDRP ?

 

[Reddstagg]

You would have to register Swissshop.com (3 "s"), Swisshop (2 "s") and Swiss-shop.com if you want to make sure to not miss anyone trying to access directly. +maybe swiss.shop. That's 3 or 4 renewals to pay (assuming they're all available)

The above could make sense if you're the end user company. If you buy the DN to resell it, far less.

Ahhhhh, the good old days when you hand cranked your computer and registered domain names by candle light. I'd say life was much easier before people started using hyphens or new gtlds. If, we have never run our own bricks and mortar business it is indeed harder to understand the complexities of everyday life. Now, we are running micro businesses from our bedrooms just using our computers, a little experience and knowledge and a few bucks to get started.

P.s.....don't forget you'd also have to register all of the above in the plural version too lol. One domain soon becomes 6...or 8. That is the cost of covering all of the bases.

Regards,

Reddstagg
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Redd.Stagg
Reddstaggs
Redd-Staggs
Redds.Stagg

Phew...I need to lie down

 

[HotKey]

Simple question
Which one ranks better in google ?
For ecample:

FirstBoutique.com
Or
First.Boutique ?

Let's suppose that no one of them have backlinks

Maybe the .com will rank higher coz it's aged ?

Of possible interest to you, experiments gone wild:

https://www.namepros.com/threads/is...n-search-engine-indexing-and-ranking.1173395/

https://www.namepros.com/threads/seo-practices-with-new-gtlds-great-case-studies-read-learn.1024870/

Both great studies, and ongoing. No backlinks. One leaning towards .com favoritism in ranking, the other towards new extension usage.

 

[Akhilesh.Kumar]

@topdom That's exactly the question! swiss.shop or swissshop.com?
So, what are you saying? It depends on how it sounds and may be different according to each name? I feel it would especially depend on the extension then, wouldn't it?
According to your own preference: swiss.community or swisscommunity.com? swiss.network or swissnetwork.com? swiss.one or swissone.com? (open question to everybody, not limited to Topdom)

@Meadows Yes, I agree, but as @Future Sensors mentioned, that's not a "new TLD". This is a question of country-specific vs international. Different question.

Consider renewal costs as well.
dot com is always affordable in terms of renewal price.
It happened today, I placed a backorder for U.exchange and later found the renewal cost on GoDaddy was over $1000. I ran with my last breath stuck in my lungs to cancel the backorder.

Some tlds have really high renewal costs, though it may get in your bag cheaper for 1st year. Once it's developed, you have no option but to bear the renewal costs..

 

[NewDayBrand]

Consider renewal costs as well.
dot com is always affordable in terms of renewal price.
It happened today, I placed a backorder for U.exchange and later found the renewal cost on GoDaddy was over $1000. I ran with my last breath stuck in my lungs to cancel the backorder.

Some tlds have really high renewal costs, though it may get in your bag cheaper for 1st year. Once it's developed, you have no option but to bear the renewal costs..

There are some that are good and cheap but the words combinaison must have a great sens if you wanna get a good deal with it

 

[jim h]

Young people's habits are changing, and more and more people accept ngtlds.

 

[Meadows]

It depends on the market you are working on.
Example: .de is top in Germany, but internationally unknown. Internationally you need .com or .net or .org...

 

[Future Sensors]

TLD .de can't be considered a 'new (g)tld', however.

 

[topdom]

I don't like swissshop.com because there are 3 consecutive s' . it can easily be confused with 2 and 4 consecutive s versions.

Also amazon.shop would be more valuable than amazonshop.com. In the second domain not many would be interested. in the first case Amazon Inc would go to UDRP and lose, and after this event it would become a pure premium domain.

 

[bmugford]

All things equal, I would almost always go with the .COM. It is widely used and recognized everywhere.

There is no sense adding extra friction when it comes to business.

I do agree with the example given, that the 3 "s" in a row look bad. You could correct it as SwissShop.com, but that doesn't look much better.

Brad

 

[HotKey]

It really depends on the name.

.com is great because you can practically get away with anything in a name. Sensible or bunch of gibberish, .com doesn't discriminate.

New gTLDs are trickier, require a bit more finesse for the name to appear proper and professional. You want it to make sense.

But hands-down, to build a project or business with a great keyword1+keyword2, if you can drop the .com and replace with keyword2, I'm going new G'.

 

[Jurgen Wolf]

6 years elapsed already...
They are not new anymore.

My personal rule - among all options I always choose the shortest domain as primary one.

 

[Zilla]

for serious Business .com is more convinced...for personal usage(sometime also new startup), ngtld (in right sense) will be more shorter and creative look...

 

[Berserker]

You would have to register Swissshop.com (3 "s"), Swisshop (2 "s") and Swiss-shop.com if you want to make sure to not miss anyone trying to access directly. +maybe swiss.shop. That's 3 or 4 renewals to pay (assuming they're all available)

The above could make sense if you're the end user company. If you buy the DN to resell it, far less.