New gTLD count as of 22 March

[Kate]

Hello,

It's been a few weeks since the new gTLDs were allocated so I thought it would be interesting to post some charts with current registration figures. Here they are.
Note that some TLDs are not open to the public yet. The zones then typically contain nothing more than a few test domains including nic.gtld...

However, if you have bought domains in a particular TLD, you can see how it's been doing so far vs other TLDs

        45119  guru                                      
        39251  berlin                                    
        28816  photography                               
        16121  tips                                      
        15955  today                                     
        11443  technology                                
        10366  directory                                 
         9366  company                                   
         9285  clothing                                  
         9127  land                                      
         9046  bike                                      
         8659  gallery                                   
         7788  estate                                    
         7405  photos                                    
         7166  center                                    
         6562  equipment                                 
         6077  singles                                   
         5590  sexy                                      
         5051  ventures                                  
         4419  graphics                                  
         4256  systems                                   
         4175  academy                                   
         3937  holdings                                  
         3912  lighting                                  
         3777  plumbing                                  
         3518  construction                              
         3383  careers                                   
         3374  camera                                    
         3324  domains                                   
         3150  management                                
         3070  contractors                               
         2916  kitchen                                   
         2880  xn--q9jyb4c                               
         2671  shoes                                     
         2416  diamonds                                  
         2410  enterprises                               
         2238  xn--mgba3a4f16a.ir                        
         2054  menu                                      
         1800  voyage                                    
         1750  computer                                  
         1708  xn--ngbc5azd                              
         1673  recipes                                   
         1489  cab                                       
         1377  limo                                      
         1266  tattoo                                    
         1210  uno                                       
         1109  xn--ygbi2ammx                             
          335  email                                     
          267  solutions                                 
          245  support                                   
          219  ruhr                                      
          181  xn--fzc2c9e2c                             
          156  training                                  
          128  ceo                                       
          123  edu.kw                                    
           96  buzz                                      
           90  xn--xkc2al3hye2a                          
           89  guitars                                   
           73  pics                                      
           60  onl                                       
           55  xn--3ds443g                               
           53  photo                                     
           52  xn--fiq228c5hs                            
           50  builders                                  
           33  link                                      
           32  blue                                      
           28  xn--6frz82g                               
           21  pink                                      
           17  boutique                                  
           16  red                                       
           14  shiksha                                   
           14  okinawa                                   
           13  watch                                     
           13  tienda                                    
           13  bargains                                  
           11  zone                                      
           11  works                                     
           11  marketing                                 
           11  institute                                 
           11  cool                                      
            9  villas                                    
            9  viajes                                    
            9  vacations                                 
            9  solar                                     
            9  repair                                    
            9  rentals                                   
            9  properties                                
            9  productions                               
            9  partners                                  
            9  maison                                    
            9  kim                                       
            9  international                             
            9  house                                     
            9  holiday                                   
            9  glass                                     
            9  foundation                                
            9  florist                                   
            9  flights                                   
            9  farm                                      
            9  exposed                                   
            9  expert                                    
            9  events                                    
            9  education                                 
            9  dating                                    
            9  cruises                                   
            9  condos                                    
            9  coffee                                    
            9  codes                                     
            9  cheap                                     
            9  camp                                      
            9  agency                                    
            8  wien                                      
            8  vision                                    
            8  tools                                     
            8  supply                                    
            8  supplies                                  
            8  report                                    
            8  parts                                     
            8  industries                                
            8  fish                                      
            8  community                                 
            8  cleaning                                  
            8  catering                                  
            8  cards                                     
            7  xn--c1avg                                 
            7  voto                                      
            7  vote                                      
            7  christmas                                 
            6  tokyo                                     
            6  nagoya                                    
            6  monash                                    
            5  wed                                       
            3  xn--unup4y                                
            2  social                                    
            2  rich                                      
            2  ninja                                     
            2  moda                                      
            2  luxury                                    
            2  kaufen                                    
            2  immobilien                                
            2  gift                                      
            2  democrat                                  
            2  dance                                     
            2  build                                     
            2  bid

 

[mjnels]

i dont think registration #'s are relevant anymore. i doubt they were relevant when only 20 TLD's existed..

it means nothing in a sea of 1,000 TLD's. if somebody wants to explain why they think registration #'s of each individual TLD mean anything at all - go right ahead. unless you're a registry i dont understand why people are paying any attention to how many of each gTLD are registered..

 

[JB Lions]

i dont think registration #'s are relevant anymore. i doubt they were relevant when only 20 TLD's existed..

it means nothing in a sea of 1,000 TLD's. if somebody wants to explain why they think registration #'s of each individual TLD mean anything at all - go right ahead. unless you're a registry i dont understand why people are paying any attention to how many of each gTLD are registered..

That's already been gone over in other threads, you know this. The numbers pretty much suck.

Just one thread - https://www.namepros.com/gtld-discussion/817471-new-gtld-domain-extensions.html

 

[mjnels]

That's already been gone over in other threads, you know this.

lets go over it again. cause most you guys are wrong.

if 1,000 restaurants opened on my street next year - i could pay attention to which restraunt was the most popular.

OR

i could pay attention to the larger picture of how the neighborhood "options" completely changed overnight. with something like 500x the amount of TLD's being released in one year - when before it was just maybe 2 per year - you guys are not seeing the forest for the trees.. who cares about registration #'s unless you're a registry.

because... there could be .guru with 8,000,000 registrations and no active well known websites... and there could be .kitchen with only 20 registrations and 4 hugely popular, nationally advertised websites. thats why registration numbers are meaningless unless you're a registry. there is going to be no "most popular TLD" anymore... those days of dreaming are most likely OVER.

we can argue gTLD isnt ever going to be used but the attention paid to "how many domains got registered during yadda yadda amount of time" is completely meaningless at this point unless you're a registry. 8^X

 

[hawkeye]

... i dont understand why people are paying any attention to how many of each gTLD are registered..

People aren't paying attention, only the anti-gTLDers are! I guess they find it (for some reason) as some kind of a validation of 'their' pov on these new gtlds. Of course, 'they' are the only ones doing so, so if it makes them feel 'validated'.. so be it.

 

[JB Lions]

lets go over it again.

Why, are you a glutton for punishment? Low regs = low demand. Less chance of getting known, into the public. Investing into low demand, usually not a good idea. Not complicated.

Horrible investment for domainers. For endusers that don't mind second rate extensions or major keywords, they have all kinds of options. Selling domains is hard enough, going to be even harder with these.

You said this time it's something different. Yes, in number of extensions. Also, in number of good sales, they won't be there.

Numbers don't matter when they suck, huh.

As the great modern day philosopher Shawn Carter said:
"Men lie, women lie, numbers don't"

 

[jmcc]

i dont think registration #'s are relevant anymore. i doubt they were relevant when only 20 TLD's existed..

Well there are hundreds of TLDs including ccTLDs.

it means nothing in a sea of 1,000 TLD's. if somebody wants to explain why they think registration #'s of each individual TLD mean anything at all - go right ahead. unless you're a registry i dont understand why people are paying any attention to how many of each gTLD are registered..

Some people may have invested a lot of money on the registry side of things. Others might be in ccTLD registries and may be interested in how new gTLDs are competing in their market. Hosters and prospective registrars are interested in seeing which ones they should offer to customers.

Regards...jmcc

 

[mjnels]

Well there are hundreds of TLDs including ccTLDs.

im talking about "new gTLD" before new gTLD came out - .travel .pro .mobi .info, etc..

Hosters and prospective registrars are interested in seeing which ones they should offer to customers.

the data is irrelevant this early. its flooded. its all a crapshoot.

People aren't paying attention, only the anti-gTLDers are! I guess they find it (for some reason) as some kind of a validation of 'their' pov on these new gtlds. Of course, 'they' are the only ones doing so, so if it makes them feel 'validated'.. so be it.

people are ignoring the game has COMPLETELY changed and either trying to find a way to make money as a domainer with them or a way to prove somebody is going to lose money with them.

its all irrelevant. its all shit happening in the meantime. maybe 1 or 5 or 10 TLD's can "go away" and fade into the background... but bitter domainers are DREAMING if they think something this huge, as a whole - is going to just fade away like .mobi.. its pretty hilarious.

also, "domainers" going waayyyy nuts at their first chance to register "good" domains are going to get a wakeup call when the crash happens. im pretty sure a crash is going to happen... people think stuff is cheap now just wait until the drops happen. single letter TLD's for under $100 - probably possible. good domain hacks that were originally reserved for $50 - probably.

the problem is most anti-gTLD people know a crash is going to happen but when it does they'll try using that as "evidence" the "idea as a whole" is not viable. the two things are not connected.

 

[scandiman]

i dont think registration #'s are relevant anymore. i doubt they were relevant when only 20 TLD's existed..

it means nothing in a sea of 1,000 TLD's. if somebody wants to explain why they think registration #'s of each individual TLD mean anything at all - go right ahead. unless you're a registry i dont understand why people are paying any attention to how many of each gTLD are registered..

Could at the very least be an indicator of a registries financial viability.

 

[Keith]

i dont think registration #'s are relevant anymore.

When numbers are what a business bases it's existence on, it's extremely relevant. We're looking at roughly 1000 failures in the near future. A handful of newly developed websites won't stop the inevitable.

 

[hawkeye]

When numbers are what a business bases it's existence on, it's extremely relevant. We're looking at roughly 1000 failures in the near future. A handful of newly developed websites won't stop the inevitable.

Based on this deduction, you must know, and can/will share with us here, what kind of numbers each extension is 'basing their relevance' on!! Or is it the same 'number' for each one? (Even though they all have different costs, renewals, expectations, and a limited number of relevant related keywords that would apply to them.)

 

[Kate]

First of all, as said above, low regs = low demand.
Low demand means some TLDs will not be profitable. Ultimately they will be scrapped. It's just a matter of years.
Big applicants like Donuts are going to benefit from economies of scale and the more successful TLDs will hopefully offset the losses incurred in other TLDs. But they will want to trim their portfolios too.

Again, it's still very early to draw conclusions. But if the numbers do not take off, some TLDs will not survive. So I'm afraid the numbers do matter.
Of course you have to look at it in the long term but the growth trends are so far unimpressive, which to be expected when there is abundant supply and low demand.

people are ignoring the game has COMPLETELY changed and either trying to find a way to make money as a domainer with them or a way to prove somebody is going to lose money with them.

Personally I wouldn't say the game has changed so much... so far. Rather, what we have now is two different games running in parallel.
Game #1 is the one we know all, it's about the TLDs that are established today (including ccTLDs) and they are not under threat.
Game #2 is the anything goes where the domainer is at the end of the food chain. The registries are having you for lunch.
Again, low numbers will show the demand isn't there. At that point the market has spoken. Doesn't matter what we think, or what I think. Extensions do not fail because of domainers badmouthing them.

but bitter domainers are DREAMING if they think something this huge, as a whole - is going to just fade away like .mobi.. its pretty hilarious.

But a lot of the new extensions are going to fade away like .mobi, individually.
The grand sum of things means little. The new extensions are going to follow varied dynamics. It's not a coordinated movement. GeoTLDs in particular could turn into interesting ecosystems. But honestly I can't see .berlin dwarfing .de ever.

Of course the numbers do not lie, that's why the registries are always being selective when and if they release them. There is a direct correlation between registration figures and profit (notwithstanding differential/premium pricing) and the registries are for-profit ventures.

 

[hawkeye]

But honestly I can't see .berlin dwarfing .de ever.

Not much foresight here, comparing the usage of a new 'city' extension against an 10+year old established 'country' extension.

 

[mjnels]

Of course the numbers do not lie, that's why the registries are always being selective when and if they release them. There is a direct correlation between registration figures and profit (notwithstanding differential/premium pricing) and the registries are for-profit ventures.

Could at the very least be an indicator of a registries financial viability.

numbers dont always tell the full story. and what do these numbers mean to domainers and end users? it sounds reasonable on the face of it, going by numbers to determine which registry is financially viable.... but going by the current data, compared to the others: .guru and .berlin are looking pretty decent right?

except .guru was one of the first ones so domainers jumped on it and .berlin is offered free for the first year. the data is misleading as hell.. simple numbers lie all the time.

more to the point, for domainers (and more importantly end users) it means nothing which gTLD has the most registrations.. absolutely nothing!

for example, the amount of "domain hacks" in the .kitchen TLD are limited. that shouldnt mean anything to "domainers" or "end users" though. custom.kitchen is still a good domain hack, just like customkitchen.com is a good .com domain... if we saw the domain CustomKitchen.COM sell for $200,000 nobody would focus on how many .com domains are registered with the word "kitchen" in it. nobody. its a limited vein.

people can argue some of these gTLD are super-niche super-limited but with 1,000some major words it sort of becomes...unlimted.

When numbers are what a business bases it's existence on, it's extremely relevant. We're looking at roughly 1000 failures in the near future. A handful of newly developed websites won't stop the inevitable.

1,000 TLD are going to be deleted from the root? unlikely.

First of all, as said above, low regs = low demand.
Low demand means some TLDs will not be profitable. Ultimately they will be scrapped. It's just a matter of years.

.coop, .aero and .post still exist - have been out 10+ years and have far less registrations than any gTLD out. its a pipe dream thinking the majority are going to be deleted from the root.

 

[Keith]

Based on this deduction, you must know, and can/will share with us here, what kind of numbers each extension is 'basing their relevance' on!! Or is it the same 'number' for each one?

Each one has operating costs that I doubt will be met with minuscule registrations. This is a classic case of businesses trying to operate with no business. Doesn't work that way :bah:

 

[OTF]

First of all, as said above, low regs = low demand.

Of course you have to look at it in the long term but the growth trends are so far unimpressive, which to be expected when there is abundant supply and low demand.

Low demand huh? Based on what numbers? Do you really think that juts because there is 150 new gTLD (and another 1000 or so coming) the sales are going to skyrocket?

Personally I think many people looking for a domain will consider one of the new generic domains because the selection will be larger and they will be able to select shorter name that may sound cool.

The average Joe has no clue there even is some new .blahblah domain extension but when his wife decides to get into real-estate business she may consider one of the new extension for her business as all the good .coms are already taken.

Same for the marketing and advertising firms. Most of those people are clueless about domains and it may take a while before they realize that some of the new extensions may be good for their ad campaign.

I'm not saying the generic domains are great for re-sale (maybe few), but I think they are here to stay especially the good ones.

I registered few but mostly for my own projects and very few that I may consider selling to offers I cant refuse.

 

[Keith]

1,000 TLD are going to be deleted from the root? unlikely.

Is .mobi deleted? How often are you visiting those types of sites? How much are domainers making off them? They're worthless to the world. Non-existence isn't the question. It's a matter of the public knowing or caring about 1000 tlds. They certainly don't care and can't care because they'll never be aware of their existence.

 

[mjnels]

Each one has operating costs that I doubt will be met with minuscule registrations. This is a classic case of businesses trying to operate with no business. Doesn't work that way :bah:

you really think its going to cost much in the future for existing registries already operating 100+ gTLD's to gobble up gTLD's from "failed registries" ?

consolidation will happen... 1,000 failures deleted from the root? thats a medical pipedream.

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Is .mobi deleted? How often are you visiting those types of sites? How much are domainers making off them? They're worthless to the world. Non-existence isn't the question. It's a matter of the public knowing or caring about 1000 tlds. They certainly don't care and can't care because they'll never be aware of their existence.

.mobi has 1,000 friends now in limited niches = unlimited.

this is no longer limited to fields of "mobile" "travel" "info" "pro"

the game has changed and dough mainers hate it and are in denial.

 

[hawkeye]

Each one has operating costs that I doubt will be met with minuscule registrations. This is a classic case of businesses trying to operate with no business. Doesn't work that way :bah:

And to think, multi-billion and million dollar companies and businesses, didn't put any thought or research into this scenario. You could have been a national hero and would have saved a lot of businesses a lot of money, if you would have shared this small piece of business 101 info with them before.

:music:

 

[JB Lions]

And to think, multi-billion and million dollar companies and businesses, didn't put any thought or research into this scenario. You could have been a national hero and would have saved a lot of businesses a lot of money, if you would have shared this small piece of business 101 info with them before.

:music:

You've said that point many times, except it doesn't hold up much. As if products that came to market haven't failed before, or companies don't go bankrupt. Please show me the research into .boo or does all it take is somebody on the internet saying we did research. Is that all it takes to impress you?

Low demand huh? Based on what numbers?.

Try post 1.

Same for the marketing and advertising firms. Most of those people are clueless about domains and it may take a while before they realize that some of the new extensions may be good for their ad campaign.

Yes, they were clueless about the one with 110+ million, but it was the ones with a few thousand that brought them to the light. I think legit firms know a little something about this.

 

[Kate]

Not much foresight here, comparing the usage of a new 'city' extension against an 10+year old established 'country' extension.

That's the whole point. The things that work today will continue to work. No worries. Not a zero-sum game either.
Likewise, reports of .com's death have been greatly exaggerated.

except .guru was one of the first ones so domainers jumped on it and .berlin is offered free for the first year. the data is misleading as hell.. simple numbers lie all the time.

Then it means that the drops next year will be huge, and these TLDs are going to fall to even lower levels.
The numbers are artificially inflated by the launch phase.

for example, the amount of "domain hacks" in the .kitchen TLD are limited. that shouldnt mean anything to "domainers" or "end users" though. custom.kitchen is still a good domain hack, just like customkitchen.com is a good .com domain... if we saw the domain CustomKitchen.COM sell for $200,000 nobody would focus on how many .com domains are registered with the word "kitchen" in it. nobody. its a limited vein.

people can argue some of these gTLD are super-niche super-limited but with 1,000some major words it sort of becomes...unlimted.

Precisely, the number of relevant keywords in .kitchen is capped by design. And many other extensions are niche too.
The question, can the TLD be economically viable with a few thousands of domains ?
Remember that the registries are bound to 3 years of continuity or something like that. They don't have to keep their TLDs alive ad vitam eternam. Pulling the plug is an option.

1,000 TLD are going to be deleted from the root? unlikely.

Not 1000, because we don't even have 1000 TLDs in the root today. So far very few TLDs have been removed from the root since the mid-80s. But now there is going to be a lot more instability, failures and the registrants will foot the bill.

 

[hawkeye]

Is .mobi deleted? How often are you visiting those types of sites? How much are domainers making off them? They're worthless to the world. ....

?? So, because domainers (that you know of) are not making money off certain extensions, they're 'worthless to the world', though they are still in existence and still selling and being renewed and being used in parts of the world you don't know, web surf in, or visit? The knowledge that can be gained in a domainer forum is ... astonishing.

 

[JB Lions]

?? So, because domainers (that you know of) are not making money off certain extensions, they're 'worthless to the world', though they are still in existence and still selling and being renewed and being used in parts of the world you don't know, web surf in, or visit? The knowledge that can be gained in a domainer forum is ... astonishing.

Actually .mobi has been slowly losing numbers. Lost almost 150,000 last couple of months.

 

[Keith]

And to think, multi-billion and million dollar companies and businesses, didn't put any thought or research into this scenario. You could have been a national hero and would have saved a lot of businesses a lot of money, if you would have shared this small piece of business 101 info with them before.

:music:

Silly thought.

First, provide a list of these billion dollar companies that use these knockoffs for their businesses. Second, this was the same thinking with .mobi. Remember all those huge backers that were all for it? I'm literally laughing while scratching my head...

 

[mjnels]

Actually .mobi has been slowly losing numbers. Lost almost 150,000 last couple of months.

it doesnt mean anything to you, me or end users until its deleted. nothing.