New gTLD count as of 22 March

[Kate]

Hello,

It's been a few weeks since the new gTLDs were allocated so I thought it would be interesting to post some charts with current registration figures. Here they are.
Note that some TLDs are not open to the public yet. The zones then typically contain nothing more than a few test domains including nic.gtld...

However, if you have bought domains in a particular TLD, you can see how it's been doing so far vs other TLDs

        45119  guru                                      
        39251  berlin                                    
        28816  photography                               
        16121  tips                                      
        15955  today                                     
        11443  technology                                
        10366  directory                                 
         9366  company                                   
         9285  clothing                                  
         9127  land                                      
         9046  bike                                      
         8659  gallery                                   
         7788  estate                                    
         7405  photos                                    
         7166  center                                    
         6562  equipment                                 
         6077  singles                                   
         5590  sexy                                      
         5051  ventures                                  
         4419  graphics                                  
         4256  systems                                   
         4175  academy                                   
         3937  holdings                                  
         3912  lighting                                  
         3777  plumbing                                  
         3518  construction                              
         3383  careers                                   
         3374  camera                                    
         3324  domains                                   
         3150  management                                
         3070  contractors                               
         2916  kitchen                                   
         2880  xn--q9jyb4c                               
         2671  shoes                                     
         2416  diamonds                                  
         2410  enterprises                               
         2238  xn--mgba3a4f16a.ir                        
         2054  menu                                      
         1800  voyage                                    
         1750  computer                                  
         1708  xn--ngbc5azd                              
         1673  recipes                                   
         1489  cab                                       
         1377  limo                                      
         1266  tattoo                                    
         1210  uno                                       
         1109  xn--ygbi2ammx                             
          335  email                                     
          267  solutions                                 
          245  support                                   
          219  ruhr                                      
          181  xn--fzc2c9e2c                             
          156  training                                  
          128  ceo                                       
          123  edu.kw                                    
           96  buzz                                      
           90  xn--xkc2al3hye2a                          
           89  guitars                                   
           73  pics                                      
           60  onl                                       
           55  xn--3ds443g                               
           53  photo                                     
           52  xn--fiq228c5hs                            
           50  builders                                  
           33  link                                      
           32  blue                                      
           28  xn--6frz82g                               
           21  pink                                      
           17  boutique                                  
           16  red                                       
           14  shiksha                                   
           14  okinawa                                   
           13  watch                                     
           13  tienda                                    
           13  bargains                                  
           11  zone                                      
           11  works                                     
           11  marketing                                 
           11  institute                                 
           11  cool                                      
            9  villas                                    
            9  viajes                                    
            9  vacations                                 
            9  solar                                     
            9  repair                                    
            9  rentals                                   
            9  properties                                
            9  productions                               
            9  partners                                  
            9  maison                                    
            9  kim                                       
            9  international                             
            9  house                                     
            9  holiday                                   
            9  glass                                     
            9  foundation                                
            9  florist                                   
            9  flights                                   
            9  farm                                      
            9  exposed                                   
            9  expert                                    
            9  events                                    
            9  education                                 
            9  dating                                    
            9  cruises                                   
            9  condos                                    
            9  coffee                                    
            9  codes                                     
            9  cheap                                     
            9  camp                                      
            9  agency                                    
            8  wien                                      
            8  vision                                    
            8  tools                                     
            8  supply                                    
            8  supplies                                  
            8  report                                    
            8  parts                                     
            8  industries                                
            8  fish                                      
            8  community                                 
            8  cleaning                                  
            8  catering                                  
            8  cards                                     
            7  xn--c1avg                                 
            7  voto                                      
            7  vote                                      
            7  christmas                                 
            6  tokyo                                     
            6  nagoya                                    
            6  monash                                    
            5  wed                                       
            3  xn--unup4y                                
            2  social                                    
            2  rich                                      
            2  ninja                                     
            2  moda                                      
            2  luxury                                    
            2  kaufen                                    
            2  immobilien                                
            2  gift                                      
            2  democrat                                  
            2  dance                                     
            2  build                                     
            2  bid

 

[mjnels]

I am just pointing out the current reality. You are the one who is projecting the future.

Will end users adopt the new extensions in mass? Maybe. Maybe not.

Unless there is some type of normalization of the process I don't really expect many end users to be that interested. They are busy running their business. It is confusing enough for domainers nevermind to people in the real world.

Brad

normalization has started. type awesomebike.com into godaddy.

rats, its taken and for sale at $9,898.00

but hey look, whats this new .bike extension right below that. bam.. and they didnt even have to take a college course to figure out it exists.

---------- Post added at 07:06 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:04 PM ----------

I think you might be trapped in a new gtld marketing bubble. Keywords matter to end users. I guess you think if/when they finally get around to figuring out they're available, that somehow those keywords are going to be magically there for them? Please, list some great .bike names that some .bike company can hand register now/much less in the future, with your next post.

so first the registries are going to fail because of low registration numbers - now there is nothing available for anyone.

round n round we go.

 

[JB Lions]

normalization has started. type awesomebike.com into godaddy.

rats, its taken and for sale at $9,898.00

but hey look, whats this new .bike extension right below that. bam.. and they didnt even have to take a college course to figure out it exists.

awesomebike.bike hahaha, you can't be serious. That's what showed up for me at GD. You think repeating words like that is good?

so first the registries are going to fail because of low registration numbers - now there is nothing available for anyone.

round n round we go.

Didn't touch any part of my question. Try.

 

[mjnels]

awesomebike.bike hahaha, you can't be serioius. That's what showed up for me at GD.

see, now you know .bike exists.

Didn't touch any part of my question. Try.

i pointed out you're trying to have it both ways. first ohhhhh the registry is gonna fail because lack of registrations.... and at the same time everything is taken. right right, which one is it?

your questions are all based on strawmen..

 

[bmugford]

normalization has started. type awesomebike.com into godaddy.

rats, its taken and for sale at $9,898.00

but hey look, whats this new .bike extension right below that. bam.. and they didnt even have to take a college course to figure out it exists.

It is not confusing?

Donuts for instance has EAP, variable registration fees, variable renewal fees, and even those vary greatly by registrar as well.

Many of the better terms come with "premium" renewal fees that range from standard fee, to hundreds or thousands of dollars a year.

Your position requires a paradigm shift. I do not see it happening.

Brad

 

[JB Lions]

see, now you know .bike exists.

i pointed out you're trying to have it both ways. first ohhhhh the registry is gonna fail because lack of registrations.... and at the same time everything is taken. right right, which one is it?

your questions are all based on strawmen..

How does it existing help the bike company? You think companies like names with repeating words like that? somethingbike.bike? With your one example, there was nothing good for that search.

There is nothing strawmen about it. It's you ducking what I posted. Here it is again:

"Keywords matter to end users. I guess you think if/when they finally get around to figuring out they're available, that somehow those keywords are going to be magically there for them? Please, list some great .bike names that some .bike company can hand register now/much less in the future, with your next post."

What part of that didn't make sense, please take it apart. You already have one duck, you going for duck, duck, goose? If it's not keywords and more company name, again, usually available in .com.

 

[gpmgroup]

JB.. you're talking in circles again. numbers dont matter to end users.

someone considering registering .bike isnt going to check how many domains are registered. you're in da domainer bubble.

Trends matter and trends are usually built over time from numbers

 

[forge]

That's just a stupid question. You keep bringing it up, a few times now as if it is supposed to mean something. So if you do that, don't you want to know what you're bringing up? Don't you want to actually read the research? It's a sheepish mentality if you don't.

What is the meaning of what you've chosen to have us think you said? Was it properly vetted or for that matter researched? Or are you just fully set on evading those questions that need to be answered? Is there trouble in Gotham City? Are my pants too tight? Do caramel apples grow on trees? Should I have more coffee?

 

[JB Lions]

What is the meaning of what you've chosen to have us think you said? Was it properly vetted or for that matter researched? Or are you just fully set on evading those questions that need to be answered? Is there trouble in Gotham City? Are my pants too tight? Do caramel apples grow on trees?

What?

 

[forge]

What?

sorry haven't had my pills

:wave:

 

[bmugford]

i pointed out you're trying to have it both ways. first ohhhhh the registry is gonna fail because lack of registrations.... and at the same time everything is taken. right right, which one is it?

Right now most of the registries are just selling scraps. The highest quality keywords are not available as they are on the ICANN collision list or registry reserved.

I do understand your point that to an end user it might not matter if .Photography has 1000 or 50,000 domains taken if they can register the domain they want.

However to a registry that number certainly does matter. Without lots of domains actually in use, awareness will remain low. If awareness is low then demand will be low. Not many people are going to want to hitch their business to a loser extension.

Brad

 

[mjnels]

It is not confusing?

Donuts for instance has EAP, variable registration fees, variable renewal fees, and even those vary greatly by registrar as well.

it is confusing.. the "early access" thing especially but as you pointed out businesses are not really paying attention right now.

Many of the better terms come with "premium" renewal fees that range from standard fee, to hundreds or thousands of dollars a year.

Right now most of the registries are just selling scraps. The highest quality keywords are not available as they are on the ICANN collision list or registry reserved.

betcha those "premium" and "reserved" domains will soon drop to regular pricing if they cant sell them. i just see domainers keep trying to make some built in time limit. once gTLD start getting deleted from the root i'll buy into that.

How does it existing help the bike company? You think companies like names with repeating words like that? With your one example, there was nothing good for that search.

There is nothing strawmen about it. It's you ducking what I posted. Here it is again:

"Keywords matter to end users. I guess you think if/when they finally get around to figuring out they're available, that somehow those keywords are going to be magically there for them? Please, list some great .bike names that some .bike company can hand register now/much less in the future, with your next post."

What part of that didn't make sense, please take it apart. You already have one duck, you going for duck, duck, goose? .

um, they learned the .bike TLD exists and can type something.bike in with their next godiddly query.. you silly goose. you're really trying hard to oversimplify things.

OK JB lions there are no good .bike domains to register. so there goes your theory from page #2 that the registries are going to go broke. gotcha.

 

[JB Lions]

um, they learned the .bike TLD exists and can type something.bike in with their next godiddly query.. you silly goose. you're really trying hard to oversimplify things.

OK JB lions there are no good .bike domains to register. so there goes your theory from page #2 that the registries are going to go broke. gotcha.

Actually, I used a specific example, one you chose, and it failed. I can't imagine too many companies wanting to build on (keyword)bike.bike

I didn't mention registries and going broke, we were taking about end users and .bike and how you think somehow in the future the name they want will be sitting there, just waiting for them. You just can't figure out any. That's because it's what both you and I know, and what you just don't want to admit, they're already all gone.

 

[hawkeye]

I didn't mention registries and going broke, we were taking about end users and .bike and how you think somehow in the future the name they want will be sitting there, just waiting for them. You just can't figure out any.

And you know what, the .com won't still be there waiting for them either? So, what's your point on this?

 

[JB Lions]

And you know what, the .com won't still be there waiting for them either? So, what's your point on this?

Actually went over this before as well, even using bike examples.

You want a great keyword, Mr. Business?

keyword.com - gone
keyword.newextension - gone

then what?

Get original, company name, keyword+another keyword etc.

Now with that, would that be better on:

.com

or

.somesecondratenoveltynichenewextension

?

 

[HeyNow]

A registry can still be profitable on a small number of registrations. You don't see Neustar or Afilias beating the bushes for more business. You don't hear any registry screaming for business. None of them are advertising, except blowing BS out of their respective butts about how "... big future plans ..." are in the works, that never materialize, like Igor what's-his-name from Neustar. Lots of BS.

 

[mjnels]

Actually, I used a specific example, one you chose, and it failed. I can't imagine too many companies wanting to build on (keyword)bike.bike

I didn't mention registries and going broke, we were taking about end users and .bike and how you think somehow in the future the name they want will be sitting there, just waiting for them. You just can't figure out any. That's because it's what both you and I know, and what you just don't want to admit, they're already all gone.

they're already gone.. so that means what? they're not for sale? they're going to ask as much for it as the .COM?

your arguments are way too absolute.

nobody is saying building on (keyword)bike.bike.. what im saying is when you type in awesomebike.com into godaddy you're instantly informed the .bike TLD exists... you keep trying to dumb down everything. you can start a new query dude..

[sidenote]

DU - you are weird. every now and again i login and see you "liked" or "thanked" 500 people in a row for their posts. start being more normal.

here, take this prescription for medical marijuana. it will help you. medical beer too..

 

[forge]

Witnessing the hordes of "domainers" glom onto these new .whatever extensions to me is just kind of sad. But... they have plans. They "hope" to develop. Right. Stop with the bullshit. It's the same land grab and great big F.U. to the beloved (once they ante up the big paydays) end-users who -- eventually but far too late -- might actually realize the opportunities these new extensions were championed to supposedly create for them. What a sick joke.

 

[Kate]

JB.. you're talking in circles again. numbers dont matter to end users.

someone considering registering .bike isnt going to check how many domains are registered. you're in da domainer bubble.

It's true the figures don't matter to end users.
The end users will usually mimic their competitors and blend with the business environment. When everybody around you uses .com, it's not easy to go with a string nobody is familiar with.
Somebody has got to start the ball rolling, but without the first mover advantage.

Again, it's early but the figures do not suggest that reception by end users is overwhelming. Domainers talk a lot about new TLDs while everybody else just carries on with life.

I will continue to keep track of the stats, and bring the bad news
The figures do matter for shareholders though.
We all have opinions but what about some facts. Figures are factual.

 

[DU]

Don't bother reading..it's too long.

you really think its going to cost much in the future for existing registries already operating 100+ gTLD's to gobble up gTLD's from "failed registries" ?
consolidation will happen... 1,000 failures deleted from the root? thats a medical pipedream.

Absolutely true. Most of the infrastructure is standardized/outsourced. It's just not that difficult to manage.

That's the whole point. The things that work today will continue to work. No worries. Not a zero-sum game either.
Likewise, reports of .com's death have been greatly exaggerated.

Tell that to the magazine, automotive, newsmedia, movie, restaurant, telecom, banking, construction, and retail industries. Things that work today? They work today. Things that work today? They *might* work tomorrow.

Just curious, have you ever paid attention to the numbers in your domainer lifetime? You do know when new extensions come out, the big numbers tend to come early, not later. Especially with niche extensions with a limited supply of good keywords? Or does that just escape you? Every single day out, the names you can register just get worse. It doesn't take long to figure out which ones are just going to suck, no matter how much time elapses. It also doesn't take much to figure out which ones will be duds, even before they hit the market. Don't need some million/billion dollar company research to figure it out.

The numbers in prior launches, as stated, have come predominantly from investors. A lot of the names that *would* have been registered by domainers haven't because they are listed as premium or are richer than a normal investment. It's harder to justify $30 reg fees. Also there are more combinations coming at one time.

The numbers are depressed, in part, because the entire market dynamic is different. To compare to a prior release one would probably want to aggregate the numbers - this might act as a better comparison.

Your position requires a paradigm shift. I do not see it happening.

This is a market forced paradigm shift. It's not one that domainers have any control over.

DU - you are weird. every now and again i login and see you "liked" or "thanked" 500 people in a row for their posts. start being more normal.

If you want, I can exclude you in the future. As a general rule - if you post in the DU & Johname thread you get thanked - end of discussion. Also, certain threads get the same treatment from me.. why? Because I think it makes sense to thank people who contribute to a discussion. I don't do it in all threads - just ones that I think are interesting (or borderline as there is very little interesting generally). I might catch the odd shitty post here or there - but that doesn't bother me. I even thanked HeyNow on this thread (and it was deserved)... but in case you care, I did read every one of the posts.

But my final comments - and it's really addressing what I think is a critical difference between now and the past that has been broadly overlooked.

It won't take that many something.something to hit common usage for people to be comfortable with that concept of a non .com. non .co.uk etc. but just with a something . something. Once you get comfortable with that concept then ANY gTLD suddenly has merits to someone looking for an address. Registries don't care so much about the traction created by their .gTLD as the concept in general. This week alone I went to two websites that were on a .CO and advertised as a .CO. You think they care? Hell no, most people find them through their facebook page anyway.

From an investment perspective - it's impossible to find a truly valuable something.something because it is an almost an unlimited pool and with a more business focused management on the registries part (registries don't have the same restrictions that a country code would, or even a .com). Investing in a gTLD is risky and likely to result in a loss for most people. Given the choice of a decent .com and keyword .gTLD there's no reason a decent .com won't be used... and a decent .com can be had for way less than the $$$$ people think they cost. Maybe not your perfect choice but certainly a good one.

When it was a release limited to .mobi, as an example, we were expecting people to understand one extension - and then it came with a stupid platform concept. Now we're not. Now all we're asking the world at large is - can you type in two words separated by a dot. The answer is definitely going to be less. In fact, it already is yes. Only other factors can ruin things - improper usage, greed, collapse or bad ending of a few registries (don't anticipate this - failed registries can easily be consolidated) but just things that affect the INTEGRITY of the concept. The concept itself is simple. Though none of this has killed the internet yet. Trust is implicitly built on fake familiarity that your brain creates (so keyword.com seems more trustworthy than keyword.biz and adadawqeqe.com). But that familiarity is not absolute.

As has been stated, a lot of names are premium priced (I assume first year reg maybe annually?). There are a lot of great keywords not regged because domainers aren't risking $500+ on a guess. A small business doesn't view this risk in the same way. The pool of interest is different - it wont just be gamblers/investors - it will be people with a different purpose.

I'm beginning to wonder if this won't just blow up the whole name space such that an entire secondary market changes. Things like that have happened before - there are plenty of industries that are falling to the wayside as technology and general usage of the internet changes. I'm am convinced that the value of domain names will continue to drop...I always have been. I'm a huge believer in that $0-5000 market being where you can buy an awesome name. I do see general names just getting worth less and less if people get comfortable with something . something. I would be willing to bet that everyone on this thread has looked to see who registered some of the names (even just morbid curiousity). You can't tell me for one moment that your brain and hand recoiled at not adding a .com. It just didn't. Some domains just work as a something . something.

The only thing I see being somewhat of a hindrance to this total collapse theory is that still only a few keywords make sense and it will take content providers. There is no value to keywordkeyword.solutions only keyword.solutions (and these are all $$$ reserved). There are fewer content providers than really it appears.

Anyway. I registered one for a blog and it's worth $0. I also registered a .com today that's worth $0...

 

[mjnels]

balanced post DU. so balanced theres just nothing sexy about it.

be more extreme on one side or the other, for gosh sakes. a post that long requires at least one completely unique joke of "hey when is .sucks and .waste coming out lolololol"


[edit]
whoops, i just realized .sucks is actually coming out..

 

[DU]

balanced post DU. so balanced theres just nothing sexy about it.

be more extreme on one side or the other, for gosh sakes. a post that long requires at least one completely unique joke of "hey when is .sucks and .waste coming out lolololol"

I'm going to apply for .thanks and .rep

I'm also going to reg namepros.sucks and sell it to matt for more than I paid for it ... just like when I regged namepros.xxx

(i didn't really reg namepros.xxx)

 

[Ms Domainer]

*

Numbers DO matter, and none of the new gTLDs is ever going to surpass .com.

They were never meant to.

In other words, .shoes is not going to enjoy 113,000,000 registrations. It's too specific to one niche.

The same with .Berlin, .NYC, and .London. Will Berliners, New Yorkers, and Londoners adopt their city gTLD? I don't know for sure -- although I think it's possible that the geocities will do well, but limited to specific geographical areas. When I lived in Macedonia, I rarely saw a .com on billboards and in the newspaper; they proudly use .mk, .com.mk, org.mk, and edu.mk. They don't worry if .mk is "successful" or not -- Macedonian companies simply use it, and the citizens accept it.

There is room for niche geo and product-specific domains with limited registration numbers, but, in the end, it will be end users who determine ultimate success, not domainers. For one thing, the possibilities for, say, a premium generic .shoes domain is surprisingly limited. Try listing some that make sense. It's difficult. Even if you could register silver.shoes or opentoed.shoes, why would you? Unless you plan to use it as a name for a business, selling just silver or open-toed shoes is pretty narrow in scope for a shoe business.

I think you'll see Ma and Pa stores opting for a MyStoreName.shoes, that is, if you can convince them that MyStoreName.shoes is better than MyStoreNameShoes.com. That isn't clear yet and certainly not the case in the present. Ma and Pa shoe store owners do not yet know about about .shoes, and maybe they never will. It depends on how much the registries are willing to advertise. Say what you will about Go Daddy, but this company pretty much put domain names on the radar of average people because it went big and bold in its advertising.

So far, I'm just hearing peeps from the registries; scrolling banners on domainer blogs are just not going to cut it.

I regged some nice geo .land domains, but, again, in a geographical sense, these are limited (although one can do some creative naming with words ending in "Land," which is why I like it and why end users might as well).

Believing that the new gTLDs will be The Next BIG, BIG THING may be a bit too optimistic, and I fear that too many domainers are betting the bank on a future that may be slow to evolve.

I think it will evolve, especially if major companies start using their own dotBrands, but companies tend to be conservative and slow at change. So don't expect that in the next 10-15 years.

Just my two cents.

*

 

[Cool.Ventures]

i dont think registration #'s are relevant anymore. i doubt they were relevant when only 20 TLD's existed..

it means nothing in a sea of 1,000 TLD's. if somebody wants to explain why they think registration #'s of each individual TLD mean anything at all - go right ahead. unless you're a registry i dont understand why people are paying any attention to how many of each gTLD are registered..

I agree. It will take a few YEARS before we know for sure which new ones will be the most popular. The difference in regs of guru vs. tips is too tiny right now.

 

[mjnels]

I agree. It will take a few YEARS before we know for sure which new ones will be the most popular. The difference in regs of guru vs. tips is too tiny right now.

i wouldnt worry about which one is most popular or highest number of registrations.. thats what im saying.. and if domainers really want to play with these i'd just pretend there are no TLD's at all. just go by the "domain hack" phrase alone..

custom.kitchen
tech.tips
mexican.food
outdoor.lighting
mobile.technology
hot.singles

people will say you'll not be able to get your hands on these type of domains for registration fee. its not going to be true 100% of the time. stuff will probably get released from reserve, drop, slip through the cracks, switch to regular pricing from a previous premium price.. and be had for $20 like 2-3 years from now. stuff thats priced at $500 now. its not impossible.. this gTLD thing is going to thin out the market. there isnt enough dough mainers to absorb it all.

 

[jmcc]

im talking about "new gTLD" before new gTLD came out - .travel .pro .mobi .info, etc..

And registries, prospective registrars and others needed stats then too. This is a numbers driven game and those without the numbers generally lose.

the data is irrelevant this early. its flooded. its all a crapshoot.

Not quite. Some of the data indicates that there is a compressed launch in operation for some new gTLDs and unless there are some major changes, these low registration volumes are going to continue or decline. Patterns and trends that would generally take a few months to appear are appearing in days or weeks.

Regards...jmcc