Netfirms transfered to another person during domain grace period

[premkumar]

I missed out a valuable domain name. But it still in Grace period domain expired on 11th May 2017. But i got mail saying

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The request was to change the registrant of this domain name from

Prior Registrant:

(this information has been removed from the domain name registration)

to

New Registrant:
Domain Admin
RegistrarAds, Inc.
buysdomains At gmail.com

The New Registrant as listed above has now assumed ownership of the domain name.


I understand the Auction off practice, but in all case, the owner have 60 days time period right and Even Godaddy follow 60 days period, in fact i heard many stories of godaddy returning the domain to owner if he renew it within that period. I think netfirms uses Godaddy Auction not sure, but how they transfer my domain, and even after making request to renew, the chat person asking me to contact the buysdomains At gmail.com.

Is that, I have right to get back my domain? Is Icann rule allow 30 + 45 day rule renewal?

As of now, the chat guy escalate the issue and create a ticket.

I mentioned about ICANN rule
https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/expired-2013-05-03-en

Anybody share, if you faced such thing with netfirms or domain.com and how you solved it.

 

[Ritesh Chauhan]

i think they started participating in closeout autions for expiring names.

dozens of my domains were changed hands during grace period / redemption period.

i just noticed , because i had placed all my domains in overwatch.

 

[premkumar]

@usernamex what's ur take/view?

 

[usernamex]

Gosh @premkumar - it may be too late, although keep pestering support and maybe they would do a reversal. Doesn't look good though. : bummer :

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https://www.netfirms.com/domains/faq.bml

Q. What happens if I don't renew my domains?

A: There are several steps after your domain expires to safeguard you from losing any domains you want to keep.

1] Approximately 30 days prior to the domain expiration date, we begin sending reminders to you by email to the email address you listed with us. You will receive at least two reminders prior to the expiration date and one reminder within five days after expiration.
2] If we are unable to secure payment on or before the domain renewal date, your domain name will expire.
3] As early as one day after expiration, your domain name will be deactivated and replaced with a parking page indicating the domain name has expired, and other services you have associated with the domain name may no longer function.
4] As early as 30 day after expiration, your domain name may be purchased by a third party. If a third party purchases the domain name during this time, the domain name will not be available for you to renew.
5] If the domain name has not been renewed by you or purchased by a third party, an expired domain name enters the registry redemption period (as defined by each registry) approximately 45 days following expiration. If a third party purchases the domain name prior to the registry redemption period, the domain name will not enter redemption and will not be available for you to renew. We reserve the right to charge you a redemption fee of $160 (in additional to the renewal fee) in the event you are able to renew your domain name during this period.
6] If the domain name completes the registry redemption period, the registry may hold the domain name for a period of five days before releasing it again for general registration.
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I believe @Ritesh Chauhan is correct, that they are participating in auctions in a way that has been a change from how they used to.
PS Are you using overwatch at http://names.plus ?

Just out of curiosity, I pulled up the terms from 2013 and they are same as above
https://web.archive.org/web/20130718213109/https://www.netfirms.com/domains/faq.bml

@alcy would you kindly share some of your expertise / experience with this?

 

[premkumar]

Is it not against ICANN rule and norms. Does that bring bad reputation if they don't follow ICANN norms. I think in case their is conflict with ICANN and registry terms, ICANN rule prevail, Am i right?.

https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/expired-2013-05-03-en
About Renewing an Expired Domain
If your domain name has expired, renew it immediately.

You should renew your domain name through the registrar (or reseller) that provided your domain name registration services.

Once your domain has expired, it will be in Auto-Renew Grace Period (for 0-45 days), followed by a 30-day Redemption Grace Period. At the end of the Redemption Grace Period, you will not be able to renew your domain name. Your domain name will be released for registration by third parties.


What auction they use, godaddy Auction? what it has to do with buydomains @ gmail.com, i think whois shows their details in 2 of my domains.


no, i don't use Name.plus . but that notify you only your whois change right, anyway i found out the changes within hours but whats the use? already its in someone name. I think it have great value for high value domains not getting stolen.

Gosh @premkumar - it may be too late, although keep pestering support and maybe they would do a reversal. Doesn't look good though. : bummer :

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https://www.netfirms.com/domains/faq.bml

Q. What happens if I don't renew my domains?

A: There are several steps after your domain expires to safeguard you from losing any domains you want to keep.

1] Approximately 30 days prior to the domain expiration date, we begin sending reminders to you by email to the email address you listed with us. You will receive at least two reminders prior to the expiration date and one reminder within five days after expiration.
2] If we are unable to secure payment on or before the domain renewal date, your domain name will expire.
3] As early as one day after expiration, your domain name will be deactivated and replaced with a parking page indicating the domain name has expired, and other services you have associated with the domain name may no longer function.
4] As early as 30 day after expiration, your domain name may be purchased by a third party. If a third party purchases the domain name during this time, the domain name will not be available for you to renew.
5] If the domain name has not been renewed by you or purchased by a third party, an expired domain name enters the registry redemption period (as defined by each registry) approximately 45 days following expiration. If a third party purchases the domain name prior to the registry redemption period, the domain name will not enter redemption and will not be available for you to renew. We reserve the right to charge you a redemption fee of $160 (in additional to the renewal fee) in the event you are able to renew your domain name during this period.
6] If the domain name completes the registry redemption period, the registry may hold the domain name for a period of five days before releasing it again for general registration.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I believe @Ritesh Chauhan is correct, that they are participating in auctions in a way that has been a change from how they used to.
PS Are you using overwatch at http://names.plus ?

Just out of curiosity, I pulled up the terms from 2013 and they are same as above
https://web.archive.org/web/20130718213109/https://www.netfirms.com/domains/faq.bml

@alcy would you kindly share some of your expertise / experience with this?