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Namesilo took users domain and redirected it to some founding platform.
 

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The views expressed on this page by users and staff are their own, not those of NamePros.
Thank you to all the community members who took time to research the facts of the situation prior to reaching any conclusions.

To summarize - we received numerous reports about the domain name breonnataylor.com. Following an investigation, we found it was indeed inciting violence and unlawful behavior against the police department that had nothing to do with the domain, so we decided to take it down per our T&Cs. In an already tense situation, leaving up the domain name would have been irresponsible and only serve to create further anger and pain.

To help ease some of the damage done, we decided to instead forward the domain name to support the GoFundMe of Breonna Taylor's family, along with a 10k donation. We are currently trying to get in touch with Breonna's family and offer them access to the domain name. Otherwise, we will deactivate the domain again once the GoFundMe campaign is completed.

We hope you will stand with us in supporting Breonna Taylor's family and the Black community dealing with these injustices.

Great move in my opinion and well done on the donation.
 
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Registrars should not get involved in politics.

What double standard. If GeorgeFloyd.com was registered w/ NameSilo was sold (it sold) would you have claimed it too? @namesilo

Samer
 
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“Oh I looked at wayback and saw june 1-2. Didn’t see anything illegal but that’s IMO.

https://web.archive.org/web/20200601225307/https://breonnataylor.com/

Seems @namesilo simply didn’t like how used.

Also interesting, whois shows date registered was 1 day BEFORE she was killed. Could be a timezone thing, but if WIKI is right she died on 5-13 (-4 GMT). Domain registered 5-12. Not sure how besides some timezone thing.”

Hat tip: A Comment in your article, @equity78
 
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“Oh I looked at wayback and saw june 1-2. Didn’t see anything illegal but that’s IMO.

https://web.archive.org/web/20200601225307/https://breonnataylor.com/

Seems @namesilo simply didn’t like how used.

Oh dearest short sided Samer :xf.rolleyes::banghead:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Louisville...just_in_breonnataylorcom_takes_you_to_a_page/

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https://www.wlky.com/article/lmpd-w...ing-for-louisville-police-donations/32735551#

A board member with the Louisville Metro Police Foundation says there is a fake fundraising website using Breonna Taylor's name.

https://www.wave3.com/2020/06/01/website-using-breonna-taylors-name-linked-lmpd-foundation-site/

BreonnaTaylor.com was taking users to a page to make donations to the Louisville Metro Police Foundation, a private group that raises money for things like Shop With a Cop.

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/ne...arity-says-it-didn-t-create-fake-15311742.php

https://www.essence.com/news/louisville-police-foundation-breonna-taylor/

https://www.courier-journal.com/sto...e-links-louisville-police-charity/5311763002/

https://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/article243206656.html

https://www.wbko.com/content/news/K...t-create-fake-fundraising-site-570963441.html

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-st...ty-says-it-didnt-create-fake-fundraising-site

https://www.thestate.com/news/article243206656.html

https://www.timesunion.com/news/article/Kentucky-charity-says-it-didn-t-create-fake-15311742.php

https://www.kansas.com/news/article243206656.html

https://www.wtvq.com/2020/06/02/charity-says-didnt-start-taylor-fundraising-website/

https://www.tri-cityherald.com/news/business/health-care/article243206656.html

https://www.sanluisobispo.com/news/health-and-medicine/article243206656.html

https://www.kentuckynewera.com/news/ap/article_01fc0796-c7fa-5a4b-a732-4f0fdea8535e.html

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Great move in my opinion and well done on the donation.

I wholeheartedly agree.

In a domain world with registrars being short on ethics and morals, @namesilo just put themselves above and beyond, in a class of their own (imo).

Keep up the great work at @namesilo !!!

https://www.linkedin.com/posts/name...livesmatter-activity-6674037724804108288-Gy_0

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#namesiloismakingtheinternetgreatagain #makedomaininggreatagain #thankyounamesilo 🙏
 
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Oh dearest short sided Samer :xf.rolleyes::banghead:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Louisville...just_in_breonnataylorcom_takes_you_to_a_page/

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https://www.wlky.com/article/lmpd-w...ing-for-louisville-police-donations/32735551#



https://www.wave3.com/2020/06/01/website-using-breonna-taylors-name-linked-lmpd-foundation-site/



https://www.houstonchronicle.com/ne...arity-says-it-didn-t-create-fake-15311742.php

https://www.essence.com/news/louisville-police-foundation-breonna-taylor/

https://www.courier-journal.com/sto...e-links-louisville-police-charity/5311763002/

https://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/article243206656.html

https://www.wbko.com/content/news/K...t-create-fake-fundraising-site-570963441.html

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-st...ty-says-it-didnt-create-fake-fundraising-site

https://www.thestate.com/news/article243206656.html

https://www.timesunion.com/news/article/Kentucky-charity-says-it-didn-t-create-fake-15311742.php

https://www.kansas.com/news/article243206656.html

https://www.wtvq.com/2020/06/02/charity-says-didnt-start-taylor-fundraising-website/

https://www.tri-cityherald.com/news/business/health-care/article243206656.html

https://www.sanluisobispo.com/news/health-and-medicine/article243206656.html

https://www.kentuckynewera.com/news/ap/article_01fc0796-c7fa-5a4b-a732-4f0fdea8535e.html

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I wholeheartedly agree.

In a domain world with registrars being short on ethics and morals, @namesilo just put themselves above and beyond, in a class of their own (imo).

Keep up the great work at @namesilo !!!

https://www.linkedin.com/posts/name...livesmatter-activity-6674037724804108288-Gy_0

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Yes Grilled, and @namesilo just did not do this off the cuff, they took some time to investigate, spoke to sources, it was not "Oh we want that domain and will make sure it corresponds to our sensibilities."

Plus these kinds of names are certainly susceptible to UDRP's, Famililes going through such terrible times should not have to deal with extra burden of that.

And here is another unrelated thing, doesn't matter who likes it or not,

All registrars have the right to cancel a registration in the first 30 days no matter the reason, nothing related to how it's being or not being used. There are many people, some domainers who are going to look up and see if a registration takes place when a human being is harmed. They are going to bring it to the attention of the registrar and apply pressure for the registrar to do something if it's being used in a nefarious manner. Nobody stopping that.
 
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Yes Grilled, and @namesilo just did not do this off the cuff, they took some time to investigate, spoke to sources, it was not "Oh we want that domain and will make sure it corresponds to our sensibilities."

Plus these kinds of names are certainly susceptible to UDRP's, Famililes going through such terrible times should not have to deal with extra burden of that.

And here is another unrelated thing, doesn't matter who likes it or not,

All registrars have the right to cancel a registration in the first 30 days no matter the reason, nothing related to how it's being or not being used. There are many people, some domainers who are going to look up and see if a registration takes place when a human being is harmed. They are going to bring it to the attention of the registrar and apply pressure for the registrar to do something if it's being used in a nefarious manner. Nobody stopping that.

I fully agree.

I think it's time to clean domaining up.

I'm tired of the bullshit. Such as the ChanMingyu thread.

I will commit to transferring at least 100 domains over to NameSilo by year end. I don't care if other registrars are offering coupon transfer threads. Right is right. And wrong is wrong. #tiredofthebullshit #standup
 
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I will commit to transferring at least 100 domains over to NameSilo by year end. I don't care if other registrars are offering coupon transfer threads. Right is right. And wrong is wrong. #tiredofthebullshit #standup

As promised, transferred 100+ domains to namesilo for their efforts with BreonnaTaylor.com, completed.

Receipt #12693223
 
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Who said they don't matter?

Everyone knows, all lives matter, maybe it's just you missing the point.


I will need to transfer out my domain Amar.us from them as I don’t want that someones opinion takes control of my domain because of content lol.


That domain is still at Namesilo, just a friendly remember in case you forgot to transfer away



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But aren't you from Europe? .us is for US citizens and residents only, if you're not one, it can be taken away from you anyway.

I am bringing this one up, just in case you missed it because I see you respond to other posts.
 
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As promised, transferred 100+ domains to namesilo for their efforts with BreonnaTaylor.com, completed.

Receipt #12693223

White Lives Matter too.

Who said they didn't? And why did you feel the need to interject that opinion now?

It seems ironic (at best) for you to interject that opinion immediately after I show my support to namesilo for standing up for BreonnaTaylor.com. Is your intent to shame me or namesilo for standing up to injustice?

As I suggested to some other admirers, I am happy to pray for you.

In case you don't want prayer, education works great too!



Who said they don't matter?

Everyone knows, all lives matter, maybe it's just you missing the point.

Amen 🙏
 
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In a domain world with registrars being short on ethics and morals, @namesilo just put themselves above and beyond, in a class of their own (imo).

Does it still count as above and beyond if the donation money came from extra proceeds from duping auction participants?
 
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Does it still count as above and beyond if the donation money came from extra proceeds from duping auction participants?

Personally, I care more about @namesilo decisive action (exercising the terms of service), than the $10k donation.

But (speaking to another thread) you do have a point to question the funds origination.

Seems a little Robin Hood -esk to me.

Stealing from the rich,
to give to ...

While I am a fan of Robin Hood.
Who is namesilo to determine the rich?
Or if not a matter or rich or poor,
who is namesilo to steal?

Before we throw the baby out with the bath water, perhaps give it some time for @namesilo to remedy the issues that persist in their own house. They might surprise us, as they surprised me when they exercised their ToS to support the greater good.
 
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Personally, I care more about @namesilo decisive action (exercising the terms of service), than the $10k donation.

But (speaking to another thread) you do have a point to question the funds origination.

Seems a little Robin Hood -esk to me.

Stealing from the rich,
to give to ...

While I am a fan of Robin Hood.
Who is namesilo to determine the rich?
Or if not a matter or rich or poor,
who is namesilo to steal?

Before we throw the baby out with the bath water, perhaps give it some time for @namesilo to remedy the issues that persist in their own house. They might surprise us, as they surprised me when they exercised their ToS to support the greater good.

That situation should have never risen. There was a standard for auctions established. You had to go out of your way to have it coded and planned another way and I can imagine the talks in their board room about maximizing the revenue per client.

What if we mark it in red? Make them alarmed? What if we tell them they have to increase the bid to win even when they are winning? What if we remove proxy bid option? What if we make technically possible to overbid yourself? Those don't come as standard features for any auction script or any brief for making such a script.

It can only be DELIBERATE.

So, yes, it was intentionally dirty for the auctions and to me that makes the whole donation thing nothing more than PR.
 
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So, yes, it was intentionally dirty for the auctions and to me that makes the whole donation thing nothing more than PR

Be that as it may,

I still find the decisive action taken by namesilo to be more meaningful than the donation itself. There is another thread for you to air your namesilo auction complaints.

BreonnaTaylor.com is currently redirected to https://www.gofundme.com/f/9v4q2-justice-for-breonna-taylor

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Which has received over $6,263,900.

So in comparison, $10,000 only makes up .00159643675% of the total collected thus far.

Some things are more important than money. Such as trickle effects. Hopefully namesilo applies that same logic to their auction deceptiveness.
 
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Hi,

We have not added any functionality to deceive users. That would be quite clear that that was being done and makes absolutely no sense. Can you clarify the issues you have experienced and I can look into your case specifically.
 
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Be that as it may,

I still find the decisive action taken by namesilo to be more meaningful than the donation itself. There is another thread for you to air your namesilo auction complaints.

BreonnaTaylor.com is currently redirected to https://www.gofundme.com/f/9v4q2-justice-for-breonna-taylor

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Which has received over $6,263,950.

So in comparison, $10,000 only makes up .00159643675% of the total collected thus far.

Some things are more important than money. Such as trickle effects. Hopefully namesilo applies that same logic to their auction deceptiveness.

Fine. They have done something anyone with a little common sense should have done.

The primary value of the company though is still derived from the manner they conduct their core business and apparently they are heading in the wrong direction after the ownership change.
 
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Hi,

We have not added any functionality to deceive users. That would be quite clear that that was being done and makes absolutely no sense. Can you clarify the issues you have experienced and I can look into your case specifically.

I linked the two threads, just because it was an interesting philosophical aspect to it. How do you view a company that does a right thing and then does another thing that is so bad?

Other than that, the details of auction practice are there in the other thread, i.e. fine-printing you are the winning bidder, telling with the warning sign to increase the bid even if the person is in the lead, allowing to bid over yourself under the excuse of not having proxy bid functionality, while at the same time extending an auction time... Who would under their sane mind extend the auction time when they are winning and also voluntarily pay more in hundreds as in example in that thread?

Why are you acting as if you are clueless about all these and clueless about how normal auctions work? Haven't you bought anything on Ebay?
 
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User error is something that we manually spend our time fixing every day and do so on a case by case basis. The case you are mentioning above was handled with the user after they reached out to our support team and explained the issue.

It is in our benefit to fix any potential usability issues as it ends up taking our support time to fix misunderstandings and actions. If you have specific feedback on the page or any of the pages, Id love to get it either here or in a PM as we work on our redesigns and updated versions of our pages.
 
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User error is something that we manually spend our time fixing every day and do so on a case by case basis. The case you are mentioning above was handled with the user after they reached out to our support team and explained the issue.

It is in our benefit to fix any potential usability issues as it ends up taking our support time to fix misunderstandings and actions. If you have specific feedback on the page or any of the pages, Id love to get it either here or in a PM as we work on our redesigns and updated versions of our pages.

So are you saying ability to overbid yourself (I feel like I am in parallel reality where such things are possible, like hitting your own car with hammer, starting fire at your own home etc.), extend an auction you are already winning, telling people to increase their bid etc. they were all user bug and now it is all sorted out? Did you refund that guy that had to pay $600 or so over the next bid to win?
 
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yes, that user was refunded down to his winning bid of $50.
In terms of allowing users to take actions - this is a good question as to how this is controlled. You are of course free to hit your car with a hammer and start a fire in your house. Hopefully you dont do these things. But hopefully you also dont outbid yourself on an auction. We are still investigating how exactly this happened and adding more logging to be able to follow better if this happens again.
 
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yes, that user was refunded down to his winning bid of $50.
In terms of allowing users to take actions - this is a good question as to how this is controlled. You are of course free to hit your car with a hammer and start a fire in your house. Hopefully you dont do these things. But hopefully you also dont outbid yourself on an auction. We are still investigating how exactly this happened and adding more logging to be able to follow better if this happens again.

Please don't act condescending to your own clients!

Anyone who has worked in sales, has dealt with consumer products, studied marketing, psychology etc., knows that people can be duped and manipulated to act against their own interests.

This whole practice was well crafted manipulation and not one user bug. Hopefully, it is in the past and someone tests it and provides feedback in the thread.
 
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Just to be clear more forcefully - we are NOT crafting anything deceptive! The marketplace interface has not changed since I took over Aug 2018. If there is something unclear on our platform that you feel could be clearer - please let me know. We are working tirelessly to update and improve the platform and this does NOT include trying to fool anyone.
 
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Just to be clear more forcefully - we are NOT crafting anything deceptive! The marketplace interface has not changed since I took over Aug 2018. If there is something unclear on our platform that you feel could be clearer - please let me know. We are working tirelessly to update and improve the platform and this does NOT include trying to fool anyone.

I appreciate you being responsive. And also changing when something was brought to your attention.

It would be even better if you proactively re-inspected practices if they match common practices and your own standards.
 
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I'm not sure if I like namesilo taking control of a domain

they could have just disabled the ability to show content
in disabling function of the nameserver for example
- as netsol does all the time when you register a new name -

there may be other ladies with the same name who would like to own it
personally I had never heard that name before

I guess, I simply wouldn't like somebody to interfere
with a domain of mine

how about
putting it ON HOLD
and let some jurisdiction do the job ....


but of course, I wouldn't register a domain bad faith either
so as I said
not sure
just thinking too loudly again
 
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