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Namesilo takes users domain

Located in Domain Registrar Reviews, started by Amar D, Jun 3, 2020

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  1. Amar D

    Amar D Established Member

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    Namesilo took users domain and redirected it to some founding platform.
     

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  4. Amar D

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    I will need to transfer out my domain Amar.us from them as I don’t want that someones opinion takes control of my domain because of content lol.
     
  5. NameDeck

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    Relax, research the backstory on the domain. Also, nobody wants a .us ;)
     
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  7. Peak.Domains

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    And donating 10k! Nice! With the small margins they make with very cheap registrations and renewals, that's equivalent to selling a TON of .com's.

    Thanks for bringing this to our attention, OP. Happy ending to a terrible scam. :)

    It seems like it would be pretty messed up for them to do nothing here. The domain was actively being used for scamming, surely that's against their terms of service? I'm not someone who gets triggered when a registry has some sense of basic morality and decency. It's not a slippery slope. If they start seizing domains for no reason, let's talk.

    Thanks for offering some context @NameDeck, it's amazing what a little bit of information and context can do to quell unnecessary reactionary outrage.
     
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  8. tldboss

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  9. equity78

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    A charity organization that supports the police department in Kentucky’s capital city says it wasn’t involved in the creation of a fundraising website under the name of Breonna Taylor, a black woman who was killed by law enforcement in her home. News outlets report a website with the address BreonnaTaylor.com recently emerged online and directed visitors to “support good police” by sending donations for emergency responders and healthcare workers to the Louisville Metro Police Foundation, among other groups.

    https://www.wnky.com/kentucky-charity-says-it-didnt-create-fake-fundraising-site/
     
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  10. Steven McEvoy

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    i didnt think Registers could do this only ICANN could?
     
  11. equity78

    equity78 Top Member TheDomains Staff TLDInvestors.com PRO VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    Most registrars have in their TOS they can take a domain name back

    SERVICES PROVIDED AT WILL; TERMINATION OR SUSPENSION OF SERVICES:
    1. We may reject your domain name registration application or elect to discontinue providing Services to you for any reason within 30 days of a Service initiation or a Service renewal. Outside of this period, we may terminate or suspend the Services at any time for cause, which, without limitation, includes (i) registration of prohibited domain name(s), (ii) abuse of the Services, (iii) payment irregularities, (iv) illegal conduct, (v) failure to keep your Account or WHOIS information accurate and up to date, (vi) failure to respond to inquiries from us for over three (3) calendar days, (vii) if your use of the Services involves us in a violation of any third party's rights or acceptable use policies, including but not limited to the transmission of unsolicited email, the violation of any copyright, or the distribution of any form of malware (defined to include, without limitation, malicious code or software that might affect the operation of the Internet), (viii) to comply with any applicable court orders, laws, government rules or requirements, requests of law enforcement or other governmental agency or organization, or any dispute resolution process, (ix) to avoid any liability, civil or criminal, on the part of us, as, well as its affiliates, subsidiaries, officers, directors, and employees, (x) to protect the integrity, security and stability of the Domain Name system (DNS), or (xi) failure to respond to inquiries from us regarding payment inquiries for over 24 hours.

      Prohibited domain names and illegal activities which may be subject to these provisions include, but are not limited to:
      1. Domains and web sites prohibited by the laws of the United States and/or foreign territories in which you conduct business
      2. Domains and web sites designed to encourage unlawful behavior by others, such as hate crimes, terrorism and child pornography
      3. Domains and web sites that are tortious or invasive of the privacy of a third party
      4. Domains and web sites designed to harm or use unethically minors in any way
      5. Domains and web sites engaging in, promoting or facilitating phishing attacks
      6. Domains and web sites involved in the transmission of unsolicited email
      7. Domains and web sites involved in unauthorized repetitive, high volume inquires into any of the services provided by us or a third-party
      8. Domains and web sites involved in copyright and/or trademark infringement
      9. Domains transferred illegally from a different registrar without the previous Registrant's knowledge
      REFUNDS WILL NOT BE ISSUED IF YOUR SERVICES ARE SUSPENDED FOR CAUSE PER THIS AGREEMENT.

      THERE ARE ABSOLUTELY NO REFUNDS FOR BITCOIN PURCHASES.

      If we determine that your account is engaged in repeated abuse of this Agreement then we may elect to terminate your entire account and all domains within your account.

    2. You may cancel any domain registration (other than domains registered via drop-catching) with us within three (3) days of purchase for a full refund (minus any applicable transaction fees). You may cancel at any time after the three-day period, but no refund will be issued. To cancel a domain name, please log in to your account and visit the Order History page. Your refund will be issued back to the method of payment used to make the registration purchase. The total refund amount may be reduced by any transaction fees that we incurred as part of the initial transaction and/or the issuance of the refund. All refunds will go back to the source of the transaction.

      Important note regarding domain registration refunds. At our sole discretion, we may choose not to issue a domain registration refund if we believe you to be engaged in "domain tasting" or some other activity resulting in an abnormal number of cancellations. More specifically, if, in our sole discretion, we believe you to be engaged in a high volume or irregular number of registrations and subsequent cancellations, we may opt not to refund your money. In the event we believe you to be engaged in such activity, we will make an effort to issue one warning via email to you prior to disallowing further refunds for your account, but we are not obligated to do so.
    3. You may cancel domain renewals (other than renewals associated with Expired Domain Auctions) with us within three (3) days of purchase for a full refund (minus any applicable transaction fees). If you transfer your domain within 45 days of a domain renewal, you may not be entitled to a refund and you may also not receive any extended registration time on your domain. ALL DOMAIN RENEWAL CANCELLATIONS, OTHER THAN CERTAIN AUTOMATIC RENEWALS, WILL RESULT IN YOUR DOMAIN BEING DELETED AND PLACED INTO THE REDEMPTION PERIOD AT THE REGISTRY. THIS MEANS THAT YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO RENEW THE DOMAIN WITH US WITHOUT PAYING FOR A RESTORATION, OR POSSIBLY NOT AT ALL. IF YOU HAVE TIME REMAINING ON YOUR REGISTRATION IT WILL BE SACRIFICED IN TOTAL WHEN RECEIVING A RENEWAL REFUND.

      Important note regarding domain renewal refunds. At our sole discretion, we may choose not to issue a domain renewal refund if your cancellation rate surpasses the ratios set by our system.
    4. Sorry, but refunds are not available for restorations, completed transfers, Sedo premium domains, Afternic premium domains, domain auctions and marketplace purchases or Bitcoin purchases.
    5. If we terminate or suspend the Services provided to you under this Agreement, we may then, at our option, make either ourselves or a third party the beneficiary of Services which are substantially similar to those which were previously provided to you. If we have grounds to terminate or suspend Services with respect to one domain name or in relation to other Services provided through your Account, we may terminate or suspend all Services provided through your Account. No fee refund will be made when there is a suspension or termination of Services for cause.
     
  12. equity78

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    ICANN actually can't.

    ICANN does not have the ability or authority to transfer or return a domain name to anyone. ICANN 's authority is purely contractual and is limited to the Registrar Accreditation Agreement ( RAA ), the Registry Agreements ( RA ), and ICANN 's Consensus Policies.

    About Lost Domain Names - ICANN
     
  13. Recons.Com

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    And that is why it is called icann(ot) ;)
     
  14. Amar D

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    So CloudFlare registrar should take away domain BestGore.com from the owner because of the content?
     
  15. equity78

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    Each registrar can use their TOS when they see fit, I would imagine. Some are saying that the name here was being used in a way that was not on the up and up allegedly. I don't know if that's true or not, but several publications reported on that.

    https://www.wnky.com/kentucky-charity-says-it-didnt-create-fake-fundraising-site/
     
  16. Amar D

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    Content problems were problems of hosting provider. DMCA, scam, pharmacy, minor porn, suicide streamings....

    But yeah guys, read TOS of registrar before you do something :D New times came lol.
     
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  17. tldboss

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    What they were doing is against Namesilo terms.

    Cloudfare have such terms as well
    "Additionally, we may at our sole discretion terminate your user account or suspend or terminate your access to the Service at any time, with or without notice for any reason or no reason at all."

    See https://www.cloudflare.com/terms/

    Key is 'our sole discretion'. It is up to them if they want to or not to take action against that site.

    Given same violation, registrars can decide best decision for them per their terms, so decisions can differ.

    I am glad namesilo did the right thing IMO.
     
  18. tldboss

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    If it is purely content, why worry, they can register another domain, not exploiting name of another person dead or alive, not exploiting ongoing crisis, not scamming. Better yet use their own names or names of their family members.
     
  19. equity78

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    I have no idea why cloudflare allows that website, the Canadian government arrested the owner.
     
  20. Amar D

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    @equity78 the owner is free and he still runs the show :D
     
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  22. equity78

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    Oh I know it's crazy.
     
  23. equity78

    equity78 Top Member TheDomains Staff TLDInvestors.com PRO VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    Plus for those who don't like the way Namesilo did that,

    Namesilo had another option, every registrar states

    You agree that (INSERT REGISTRAR), in its sole discretion and without liability to you, may refuse to accept the registration of any domain name. INSERT REGISTRAR also may in its sole discretion and without liability to you delete the registration of any domain name during the first thirty (30) days after registration has taken place.

    So they could delete it for any reason, then register it for the Taylor family. Domain was less than 30 days old.
     
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    Thank you to all the community members who took time to research the facts of the situation prior to reaching any conclusions.

    To summarize - we received numerous reports about the domain name breonnataylor.com. Following an investigation, we found it was indeed inciting violence and unlawful behavior against the police department that had nothing to do with the domain, so we decided to take it down per our T&Cs. In an already tense situation, leaving up the domain name would have been irresponsible and only serve to create further anger and pain.

    To help ease some of the damage done, we decided to instead forward the domain name to support the GoFundMe of Breonna Taylor's family, along with a 10k donation. We are currently trying to get in touch with Breonna's family and offer them access to the domain name. Otherwise, we will deactivate the domain again once the GoFundMe campaign is completed.

    We hope you will stand with us in supporting Breonna Taylor's family and the Black community dealing with these injustices.
     
  25. Don Gondon

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    But aren't you from Europe? .us is for US citizens and residents only, if you're not one, it can be taken away from you anyway.
     

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