.mobi .MOBI is a scam and suckers are paying to get in line.

[pluto459]

WOW, look at the money going for mobi names. More and more selling everyday and for good money. What a time for domain speculators and web polluters.

I am kinda confused how or why people think this names will be worth anything after this initial bubble of sales pops?

Have any of yall ever used your phone for the internet? I have a nokia 7710 and can access the full net with any domain and dont need a special tld to allow me to use it. HMM, last time I checked cell phones get more advanced, not less so why would anyone think there needs to be special domain for that.

HMM, could it be the seach companies who want you to use there engine, the ones behind .mobi? I use google.com/pda for search and last week they just started showing ads. There is even a mobile web button to search with, I wonder why?? DOES google own part of mobi, naw thats not it. All new tlds sell for outragous amounts when they 1st come out dont they?? NOPE, just ones with search engines and large corps behind them.

What about browser detection??? Is that something that doesnt work anymore? You type in www.freeredboxcodes.com in the box on your phone and wow it detects what browser your on and directs you to www.freeredboxcodes.com/mobile which has removed all the pop ups and bs and gives the content the user wanted.

Has anyone read what the requirements are to develop the actual site code?
http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/WD.mobile-bp-20060113/
http://pc.mtld.mobi/documents/dotmobi-Switch-On!-Web-Browsing-Guide.html

UM, the purpose is to provide quick and concise info on screen so small that there is to be limited graphics and limited number of links. SO you want to pay big money for a name that wont have ads because there isnt room to view them. Now dont get me wrong, I am in no way mad at the people selling these names for big money. I would do the same. But to think that these will be worth a lot is insane. I see all these names and typos being bought and sold and I really dont think that they understand how a phone internet user uses the net.

How many are going to pay 60.00 a month to get high speed access? I dont think many and those that do already are using good web capable phones, ie Treo or other smartphone. Ok so they are using the GPRS or whatever mode offered which is equal to dial up. How many of you surf the net on dial up?? Wont happen. You would look up the ONE bit of info you needed and get offline.
When exactly are you going to use your phone to surf the net? As you drive, at your desk, in the car ride home?? The net on your phone is a standby luxury that I can use to look up movies or the spur of the monent trivia answer at the dinner table.

I dont think that the implentation will be effective to anyone but the resellers of the names and the mobi'esqe info. How many people are going to surf smurfs.mobi as they drive because they have that instant need to learn the names of Gargamels cat. The names with the direct names might work, phonebook, movies, info, stuff like that. OH wait when I had horrible nextel they had mobile net and I could selct from a menu numbered 1-10 with the same headings. It would give me local info and as slow and as bad as it looked it worked for that spur of the monent need for information.

My one .mobi is adultclips.mobi and well there is nothing up yet. Since the only thing the net is good for is porn, there is no reason not to think that the phone will be used to get that also. I tried to find the line up for the 1986 Houston Rockets and searched everyway possible and didnt find anything, but if I looked for black midget lesbian jello wrestling I could find it no problem.

In conclusion lol, you know you like reading this dribble, names with a use that can be attributed to cell phones will be used and probably prosper. I just read sportsbook.mobi sold for 6 figures. Maybe I am thinking only USA, maybe in the rest of the world they will use the .mobi differently. Degenerate gamblers have there passcode and the 1-800 memorized so I cant see them using the phone to place there bets. I am not jealous or anything like that so people dont go off on me for sounding like a hater. I am just a stater and to see these names sell for so much and to see people hyping this up when this is just as bad as .us or .gs. The only difference is that google and everyone else isnt behind .gs. ANyone selling scam.mobi, I'll take it.

 

[pluto459]

FINALLY, someone who cares about the use and actually uses the domain and isnt in it for strictly profit.

The scam is the artifially inflated and created marketplace.

The final word - It's not a scam.

But if they don't remove the imposed coding restrictions it will die. Mobile technology is making that imposed web-standard obsolete faster than .mobi fans are developing the extension.

I invested in a few .mobi domains - mostly to see about developing them under the imposed guidelines. I make websites, that's what I like to do and to work with and under a restrictive coding mark-up is both challenging and irksome.

What I have come to see and believe is this - the restrictive imposed web standard that .mobi has instituted is the wrong way to go. Technology is moving along like it always has and this has taken the wind out of my sails when it comes to developing my mobi domains with that particular mark-up. It's just not going to be neccessary this time next year.

 

[Traveler]

I am confused why everyone wants to hate on me instead of stopping the reselling of the junk that is creating the inflated marketplace (the scam).

No one is hating you, at least I don't. But get real, junk is always for sale and often finds a buyer. You can't stop that which is what we realize and you don't

 

[-db-]

If we, the mobi owners, dont look then this domain will be like the others -.us,.info,.gs

Again, to put .US and .INFO in the same category as .GS would seem to indicate that you don't follow the domain marketplace at all. It's quite silly, really.

 

[pluto459]

There is a forum to sell them on here. What are you talking about. The forum itself promotes people to buy to resell names. I havent looked to see who is selling them but it cant be 13000 different people.

The tlds are unreal, yall need to start a softball leage with the .cc vs. us and the .mobi vs. info.

If you, not you personally, would talk more about development and promotion instead of how much is the name worth the domain might make it. Finally after 176 posts a developer chimes in with problems and not how much his names are worth.

Considering this domain just started adn the tld had the foresigh or greed to keep the premium names, it is fair to say that this domain can be controlled a lil bit more.

No one is hating you, at least I don't. But get real, junk is always for sale and often finds a buyer. You can't stop that which is what we realize and you don't

 

[Traveler]

You are a squirely one :hehe: You get great responses to your arguements then you go off and start talking about something else :td:

 

[pluto459]

You cant take a joke huh?
You dont own any.gs?? Me either to expensive.

I dont follow the marketplace at all and I never claimed to. I look at it from the outside with open eyes to what the domain marketplace is. I see name after name bought and parked waiting for someone to want it. Have you ever thought that your hording of the names stops creativity. The mom and pop store can afford the name they want becasue your holding it for profit.

Your a reason the .cc works and .gs works because when someone wants a name everything is parked. It seems you would be a web polluter then, part of the main problem I see from the outside with names being bought and parked. The constant trading of names back and forth and then the self promotion of your names and tld of your choice.

I own .CC, .US, .COM, .AC, .VC, one .NET and my fav .ORG. According to 99% of yall on here I violated every cardinal sin buying outside the .com. YOU KNOW WHY, the names I wanted were taken and parked so the sites I wanted to make went to the vc or ac.

Again, to put .US and .INFO in the same category as .GS would seem to indicate that you don't follow the domain marketplace at all. It's quite silly, really.

As i have said before this is my 1st go round on this forum and havent grasped the reply and post before the next guy replies and i reply to that.

Sorry i have created confusion for you LOL. This has turned crazy I wuld have to admit with no one able to take a joke and everyone easily set off if you talk bad about there domain.

You are a squirely one :hehe: You get great responses to your arguements then you go off and start talking about something else :td:

 

[steven22]

I got it....your mad because you are late to the gold rush and your only finding sand. You realize that .mobi is dirt and you do not want dirt or sand. You are mad at the Gold dealers...and you say you're not a hater

 

[-db-]

pluto459, let's break it down...

I made close to $50K on .US domains in 2006, and I can provide documentation of every sale.

And I assure you, the domains were not sold to an inside circle of "20" .US friends.

Can you tell me how much money you made from domains in 2006?

My teenage niece can tell me all day long how much a certain extension sucks, but she's never sold a domain in her life, so the words don't carry much weight in the domain world.

What about you? Please share your experience and past sales in the industry.

Thanks.

 

[ofclean]

Could someone link to the official coding restrictions for .mobi?

 

[pluto459]

If a man wins the lottery and pays 200.00 for a 20.00 vase who is the idiot, the seller or the buyer?? Both leave happy so whats the difference.

There is lots of money to be made from all domains. I do not buy domains for resell and actually selling the few .us that I never got time to develop.
What does making x amount in .us domains matter? There will be people who can say the same for .mobi.

I'll bet that all your sales were to other speculators so you prove my point again that the same select few inflate and create the marketplace. I am happy for you making so much money as I am sure the us registry loves you too.

Every domain but .com is junk, but there are still sites built on ever extension.
Search myspace layouts and # 1 was bigoo.ws. NOT a .com. Not to burst your bubble but .us is a waste also still being hyped and sold 10 years later. In that aspect I guess since you have been in the .us market for that long its good you make a profit.

How did this become personal now. You chime in and all of a sudden were talking about non-mobi stuff. I just call it as it is, I have no problem pointing out the web polluters and who I feel brings down the internet. The internet, not the domain market place. No one on here seems to care about the net, just the profit from the net. How can i see or buy names to resell, nothing more.

I care that the use of mobi is utilized and finally something can be done to prevent the mobi from becoming more web pollution.

Let's break it down...

I made close to $50K on .US domains in 2006, and I can provide documentation of every sale.

And I assure you, the domains were not sold to an inside circle of "20" .US friends.

Can you tell me how much money you made from domains in 2006?

My teenage niece can tell me all day long how much a certain extension sucks, but she's never sold a domain in her life, so the words don't carry much weight in the domain world.

What about you? Please share your experience and past sales in the industry.

Thanks.

Could someone link to the official coding restrictions for .mobi?

http://www.webmasterworld.com/rv4.c...p://www.w3.org/TR/2006/WD-mobile-bp-20060113/

 

[Traveler]

I care that the use of mobi is utilized and finally something can be done to prevent the mobi from becoming more web pollution.

Trying to be the Greenpeace of the internet is probably not going to get you very far.

I get what you are saying, but to quote the borg "resistance is futile".

 

[pluto459]

Trying to be the Greenpeace of the internet is probably not going to get you very far.

I get what you are saying, but to quote the borg "resistance is futile".

Not of the net, too big never gonna happen. Just trying for mobi since its new and seems to have guidelines set up.

Did you know .us, which is supposed to represent the United States, censors the names that can be registered? The domain of America censors what names you can register, isnt that ironic?? They go by the George Carlin 7 dirty words comedy routine as there censor list. Maybe I should go to the .us forum and post that, oh wait I did when they took back perfecttits.us after I owned it for months.

You did say I like to change the subject lol

 

[steven22]

Pluto459...would you like to buy UNCENSORED.us

 

[-db-]

Every domain but .com is junk...

Ha! I've never met a person more out-of-touch with the industry.

.us is a waste also still being hyped and sold 10 years later.

Are you serious?

.US has barely been around HALF that time. That's basic 'newbie' information.

pluto459, You should be a politician because you dance around direct questions like a real pro. So in other words, you have no domain sales to report, no references in the industry, and no basis for any of your wild and unfounded statements.

Fantastic. :]

 

[pluto459]

What part didnt you read that I DO NOT RESELL DOMAIN NAMES??

OK what its been around since 2000 when then? You want to play symantics.
Do i need to make 50k to be taken seriously?? Is that the criteria?

An outsider cant comment on what he sees?? Do i need to be in your circle of friends to comment on anything. I dont get the right to an opinion until I become a .us domain reseller?? Your head is so in the .us market that you couldnt see the trees for the forrest.
What did I dance around exactly?? And what .cc homepage are you talking about???
You seem to be, I dont know you, that you associate only with .us lovers and those who feel the same way about the topics you like. You dont venture outside much huh?? You dont interact with dissenters, if its not your views then they have to be wrong. I am on outsider and these are my views.

Oh my, there has never been a person more out-of-touch with the industry.


.US has barely been around HALF that time. Seriously, you have no clue.

You should be a politician because you dance around direct questions like a real pro. So in other words, you have no domain sales to report, no references in the industry, and no basis for any of your wild and unfounded statements.

Thanks.

 

[-db-]

Somebody much wiser than me once said... If it walks like a troll, sounds like a troll, looks like a troll, and acts like a troll -- it's probably a troll.

Enough said.

TROLL.

 

[pluto459]

Somebody much wiser than me once said... If it walks like a troll, sounds like a troll, looks like a troll, and acts like a troll -- it's probably a troll.

Enough said.

TROLL.

I think it was a duck.

 

[-db-]

Duck you.

 

[gou]

Please go ahead and lock this thread...

 

[Traveler]

Don't lock it yet, i'm not going to sleep for a few hours

 

[Kenny]

Sorry boss for reopening this, but I missed my turn, so I'll take it now.

I cannot believe so many of you miss the point. Pluto has been b8'n from the first post and to a man (and a couple of women) you all bit, hook line and sinker.
This never was a bout dot mobi, or dot us, or dot anything in particular.
Anybody car to notice a recurring theme in the posts, no matter which extention he was slamming, in the background was a little tune being played over and over... it was addressed slightly with the "find me the 86 rockets" or sorry Pluto I dont remember the team and year but thats not as important to me as WHY you brought it up.
Do you see, he slams a extention then in the next post admits to having, buying and selling same extentions. But still the little tune plays and everyone is so adament to break down the facade he has thrown up, you cannot hear the music.
And Pluto, allow me to say... it is a sweet, sweet tune.
Its title: Save The Net
Polluters.
How many times did he say it.
What was the intrinsic point running thru each post.
Horders.
With all the power names being traded back and forth.
And every time he saw a sig with a developed name, did he say "Stupid"?
NO he thanked them, but no one heard that.
Even you Boss, you ran up your defencive shield and missed that it was all a joke... but a carlin/whoopie kind of joke where you say hahahaha, whoa, damn, that not funny, thats real.
Keeping the heat directed at himself, in order to get the message running in the background accross.
I havent seen a better b8 session since ... well some other types of forums.
I applaud and salute you Pluto, that was comedy genius done by a master.
Perhaps some BBS history pal? Thats where b8/flame/b8/flame/fry was perfected. I suspect this closed b4 pluto unloaded the fry, man that I would liked to have seen.
I'll prolly lose my badge over this but I couldnt not give props to such a fine lesson.

Peace,
Cyberian

PS, pluto, I own SaveThe.net Not dev'd Not for sale Waiting for its content.

I am so sick of searching submarines and seeing airplanes listed in the top 10 results. find the 86 rockets... beautiful
The defence rests.