.mobi .MOBI is a scam and suckers are paying to get in line.

[pluto459]

WOW, look at the money going for mobi names. More and more selling everyday and for good money. What a time for domain speculators and web polluters.

I am kinda confused how or why people think this names will be worth anything after this initial bubble of sales pops?

Have any of yall ever used your phone for the internet? I have a nokia 7710 and can access the full net with any domain and dont need a special tld to allow me to use it. HMM, last time I checked cell phones get more advanced, not less so why would anyone think there needs to be special domain for that.

HMM, could it be the seach companies who want you to use there engine, the ones behind .mobi? I use google.com/pda for search and last week they just started showing ads. There is even a mobile web button to search with, I wonder why?? DOES google own part of mobi, naw thats not it. All new tlds sell for outragous amounts when they 1st come out dont they?? NOPE, just ones with search engines and large corps behind them.

What about browser detection??? Is that something that doesnt work anymore? You type in www.freeredboxcodes.com in the box on your phone and wow it detects what browser your on and directs you to www.freeredboxcodes.com/mobile which has removed all the pop ups and bs and gives the content the user wanted.

Has anyone read what the requirements are to develop the actual site code?
http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/WD.mobile-bp-20060113/
http://pc.mtld.mobi/documents/dotmobi-Switch-On!-Web-Browsing-Guide.html

UM, the purpose is to provide quick and concise info on screen so small that there is to be limited graphics and limited number of links. SO you want to pay big money for a name that wont have ads because there isnt room to view them. Now dont get me wrong, I am in no way mad at the people selling these names for big money. I would do the same. But to think that these will be worth a lot is insane. I see all these names and typos being bought and sold and I really dont think that they understand how a phone internet user uses the net.

How many are going to pay 60.00 a month to get high speed access? I dont think many and those that do already are using good web capable phones, ie Treo or other smartphone. Ok so they are using the GPRS or whatever mode offered which is equal to dial up. How many of you surf the net on dial up?? Wont happen. You would look up the ONE bit of info you needed and get offline.
When exactly are you going to use your phone to surf the net? As you drive, at your desk, in the car ride home?? The net on your phone is a standby luxury that I can use to look up movies or the spur of the monent trivia answer at the dinner table.

I dont think that the implentation will be effective to anyone but the resellers of the names and the mobi'esqe info. How many people are going to surf smurfs.mobi as they drive because they have that instant need to learn the names of Gargamels cat. The names with the direct names might work, phonebook, movies, info, stuff like that. OH wait when I had horrible nextel they had mobile net and I could selct from a menu numbered 1-10 with the same headings. It would give me local info and as slow and as bad as it looked it worked for that spur of the monent need for information.

My one .mobi is adultclips.mobi and well there is nothing up yet. Since the only thing the net is good for is porn, there is no reason not to think that the phone will be used to get that also. I tried to find the line up for the 1986 Houston Rockets and searched everyway possible and didnt find anything, but if I looked for black midget lesbian jello wrestling I could find it no problem.

In conclusion lol, you know you like reading this dribble, names with a use that can be attributed to cell phones will be used and probably prosper. I just read sportsbook.mobi sold for 6 figures. Maybe I am thinking only USA, maybe in the rest of the world they will use the .mobi differently. Degenerate gamblers have there passcode and the 1-800 memorized so I cant see them using the phone to place there bets. I am not jealous or anything like that so people dont go off on me for sounding like a hater. I am just a stater and to see these names sell for so much and to see people hyping this up when this is just as bad as .us or .gs. The only difference is that google and everyone else isnt behind .gs. ANyone selling scam.mobi, I'll take it.

 

[pluto459]

All they need to do is get all the owners of the names for sale to help and it can be done cheap. :hehe:

.com, no one has heard of ".mobi". I doubt ".mobi" has enough advertising funds to make something mainstream. You do realize HOW MUCH money would have to be SPENT. This is not something easy and fast.

Ha ha no .info is on sale for 1.99 so thats been my waste of choice this week. Gs was like 40 i think. I use every name i buy, but thanks.

Um, I think .mobi has well surpased .gs, which is what you must be so sore about having spent so much money on that extension and not this one.

 

[steven22]

All of you guys are missing the entire point of what I think Pluto459 and a few others including myself are saying.

First off, no one is against capitalism. None of us would be here if we didn't want to make a buck. Period!

.mobi is very different in the application and purpose of .mobi. We all know it is not needed but it is branded very well. The reason why I am so negative on .mobi is because right now what is fueling their growth and secondary sales is people's greed and desire for a big payoff. The people who are unable to sell their names soon will be left holding the bag. Even if .mobi is a success, it will be in limited use. I was reading and I saw a list of someone's .mobi and thought i would use those names as an example. Nothing personal just to lazy to make up some names.

ESW, CNL, KLF, LUH, RVY, EXH, TXH, QAY, FYJ, SVJ, BJY, DXU, EQK, WWQ

All of these are .mobi, if they do not sell to another person trying to flip them what is the person going to do with them? Sure, an offer "can" come in, is it realistic, low probability and i would not want to take those odds 12 months right now.

Are they going to have type in traffic? NO

Are they great keywords that someone who can't get any other extension will use? Maybe, but probably not.

So, everyone is trying to "get theirs" which is great, wonderful, and I am happy to all those guys that sold and made money. Hopefully my example guy will do the same.

A recent example for those of you who do not understand or choose to ignore the reality of what i am attempting to explain.

In 1999-2001, the stock market in the US experienced all time highs. Everyhting was awesome and everyone was making money. Just buy some Cisco, Lucent, Yahoo, Ebay, or even better JDSU, Transmeta, or Theglobe.com

All of these things were no brainers and everyone was making money. However, at some point, someone realized it was all hype and not based on true, fundamentals like earnings, revenue, products, and sustainability. Eventually, people realized this and some got out and made a killing, some sold some and held on for the rocky ride, and some unlucky, greedy, and those trying to get rich quick came crashing very hard.

This example is a clear picture to me .mobi in a nutshell. How i access the .mobi time period. The year is late 2000, things are looking up and up and you can't loose. People are buying, buying all they can, this is going to be their gravy train.

Like I said, flash forward 12-18 months and let's hope your not the one holding onto them waiting for them to go up more. The year is 2000 and your holding Applied Materials and Cisco, the choice is yours.

Again, I am not against making money. If you have made money, bravo and I applaud you. I just feel like i am at finance.yahoo.com on the message boards back in 2000 with all this hype.

Good luck all!

 

[000]

.com, no one has heard of ".mobi". I doubt ".mobi" has enough advertising funds to make something mainstream. You do realize HOW MUCH money would have to be SPENT. This is not something easy and fast.

Aha, now I see your real problem. You can't seem to comprehend that .mobi is still very, very young, and only a complete idiot would have such high expectations as to think that it would sweep the world overnight.

Maybe if you did a little more research, you could have a more intelligent argument against .mobi.

ESW, CNL, KLF, LUH, RVY, EXH, TXH, QAY, FYJ, SVJ, BJY, DXU, EQK, WWQ....etc

What will I do with these? Hold onto them until .mobi is better known.

Will they get type-ins then? I think so, yes.

Who would buy names like these, besides resellers? In the future, I'm sure some end users would be quite interested.

 

[yoyosean]

but the risk/reward is much different.

 

[pluto459]

This says it all.

Egnited
Buying LLL.mobi​

Can you imagine if this guy worked for the tabacco companies. No there safe lol. You keep buying, i think there is a banner above this post for like 9.25 to register.

Aha, now I see your real problem. You can't seem to comprehend that .mobi is still very, very young, and only a complete idiot would have such high expectations as to think that it would sweep the world overnight.

Maybe if you did a little more research, you could have a more intelligent argument against .mobi.

 

[steven22]

Yes, the risk/reward is different.

With the Stock Market there was a liquid market that gave you time to get out. This is an illiquid market. If you have stuff that people do not want, you will get zero, zilch, nada....The risk is much greater

 

[Traveler]

I'm not sure what your point was with all of that. I'm a little slow I guess. I do agree that developed sites will help the extension. If no .mobi site is ever built then of course the extension will fail. However, people have already begun developing their sites. Myself included, even if I'm not proud of any of them yet :hehe:

Let the horders horde. I will develop, and hopefully beat some better names to market because I developed first!

 

[yoyosean]

r u insane? you risk 18.00 per name, how much money do you spend on drinks on a weeked night 7 dollars each or almost one .mobi name, You buy 1000 shares of yahoo at 80 and that is 80000, much different risk reward!!!

 

[Traveler]

r u insane? you risk 18.00 per name, how much money do you spend on drinks on a weeked night 7 dollars each or almost one .mobi name, You buy 1000 shares of yahoo at 80 and that is 80000, much different risk reward!!!

Yeah, the risk vs. reward on this one is pretty darn good.

I find it funny we keep having this same conversation over and over and really sad at the same time that I can't stay out of it

 

[sf2010]

Yes, the risk/reward is different.

With the Stock Market there was a liquid market that gave you time to get out. This is an illiquid market. If you have stuff that people do not want, you will get zero, zilch, nada....The risk is much greater

I do agree with you that domain market in general is not liquid. But if people have some extra cash to spend and they want to purchase a mobi (or any other TLD domains), is that wrong?

On the other hand, if you are spending thousands and thousands of dollars (and heaven forbid buying though your credit card), well, let's just say you have bigger issues.

Remember, Bulls make money, bears make money, but pigs get slaughtered!
(J Cramer)

 

[000]

This says it all.

Egnited
Buying LLL.mobi​

Can you imagine if this guy worked for the tabacco companies. No there safe lol. You keep buying, i think there is a banner above this post for like 9.25 to register.

I've given up trying to decipher your point here. Yes, I'm buying LLL.mobi's, because I see a lot of potential in the extension. I don't think there's anything even remotely similar to tobacco here. :hehe:

But I do enjoy seeing your opinions flip-flop throughout this thread.

 

[pluto459]

See in 2 years yall will thank me for opening your eyes to buying junk .mobis

 

[000]

See in 2 years yall will thank me for opening your eyes to buying junk .mobis

The same could be said for any extension. Complete crap is registered every day, because some people must learn for themselves what is good and what is not.

 

[pluto459]

The use of LLL is limited for mobile content sites, therefore you are buying under the same reasoning someone would buy LLL.com as investment. The .com logic doesnt apply to .mobi. It only applies to those owning the mobis and who are fighting to push the fact that they didnt waste there money.

Flip Flop huh, it seems your one of the web polluters then. How much will you pay for LLL?? Just curious.


Mobi was created for a specific purpose and if used correctly wont be junk like the rest of the names registered.

I've given up trying to decipher your point here. Yes, I'm buying LLL.mobi's, because I see a lot of potential in the extension. :hehe:

But I do enjoy seeing your opinions flip-flop throughout this thread.

 

[Traveler]

Pluto, I'm kind of confused as to why you started this thread. Could you sum up your position in 2 sentences or less please. It seams the discussion has gone all over the place.

 

[steven22]

Hey guys....if you want to throw money away, in this case $18. Please take 18 one dollar bills and throw them out the window one at a time in different places. You will have made 18 peoples day.

People are buying this with the expectation of making money and no basis other than the "hope" of being able to resell for more.

Another example....baseball cards....i used to talk with words such as "worth" "rare"...my dad taught me a long time ago

Something is worth what you can get for it. Not an appraisal, not someone telling you it is great and wonderful. How much Money will you give me for it?

Rare....mobi bribed or made some side deal with someone. They reserve 5500 names for "premium auctions" and they make all the money. The only people making money on this deal is them while you guys take your allowance money and try to turn you $18 into $1800....oh wait these are .mobi's, that should be $18,000

Come on....this is all hype and BS and if you can not see it, too bad.

The point is...12-18 months from now the only people who will be making out is http://pc.mtld.mobi/mobilenet/about_srmanagement.html

 

[000]

The use of LLL is limited for mobile content sites, therefore you are buying under the same reasoning someone would buy LLL.com as investment.

Fair enough. LLL is an investment. Glad we agree on something! :tu:

The .com logic doesnt apply to .mobi. It only applies to those owning the mobis and who are fighting to push the fact that they didnt waste there money.

You completely lost me here once again, which is why I'm not taking you very seriously in this thread. You're showing that you're simply ignorant to what .mobi is about. I think it's rather silly to presume that LLL.mobi are a waste of money when after just a few months, they're already worth approximately 5x the original registration cost. :talk:

Flip Flop huh, it seems your one of the web polluters then. How much will you pay for LLL?? Just curious.

If you say so. :hehe: Oh, and it depends on the quality of the LLL. I'm usually willing to pay at least $150 though.

Mobi was created for a specific purpose and if used correctly wont be junk like the rest of the names registered.

I'm seeing some nice progress in the development of .mobi sites. We're seeing new .mobi sites every day, and if that's not correct usage, I don't know what is.

All the best. :gl:

 

[pluto459]

OK
The reselling of names that cant be used effectively as .mobi sites,a site concieved to be utilized on a mobile device, should not be resold or even registered. Buying and hordeing names for resell is creating the artificially priced mobi name market and is only creating more web pollution and causes this cycle to continue of people trying to buy .mobis to resell.

Pluto, I'm kind of confused as to why you started this thread. Could you sum up your position in 2 sentences or less please. It seams the discussion has gone all over the place.

 

[steven22]

I think it's rather silly to presume that LLL.mobi are a waste of money when after just a few months, they're already worth approximately 5x the original registration cost.

Worth...Thanks Dad!

QUOTE ME.....SUMMER 2000 STOCK MARKET......SAD, VERY SAD!

 

[pluto459]

There only worth what someone will pay you for them. I am sure there are a few buyers out there just like you and yall can buy and sell them to each other.
I know a few .us buyers just like you. If you take the few of them out and the .us market is over. I guess your the trendsetter. It takes someone to keep the push up, someone to artificially inflate the cost of a LLL for someone who wants one. Ignorant huh, your the reason this domain will fail.

You completely lost me here once again, which is why I'm not taking you very seriously in this thread. You're showing that you're simply ignorant to what .mobi is about. I think it's rather silly to presume that LLL.mobi are a waste of money when after just a few months, they're already worth approximately 5x the original registration cost. :talk:

 

[seanboy]

My .mobi site has been up only for a few hours and i've already made a buck. Yay for me, lol

I see your point pluto. I hope more people develop and not just hoarde names.

But pluto, lets be real here. I think the real problem is that you're a Houston Rockets fan jk

 

[000]

There only worth what someone will pay you for them. I am sure there are a few buyers out there just like you and yall can buy and sell them to each other.

Clearly they are "worth" that much to many people if they're consistantly selling for that much (to many different buyers). :sold:

I really think that a couple of you need to do your homework before you play god and try predicting the future of .mobi. :td:

 

[pluto459]

HA not even close. Wanted to know Jim Peterson's name.

My .mobi site has been up only for a few hours and i've already made a buck. Yay for me, lol

I see your point pluto. I hope more people develop and not just hoarde names.

But pluto, lets be real here. I think the real problem is that you're a Houston Rockets fan jk

 

[steven22]

Hey now....Pluto459

Please do not disgrace yourself and talk about .us as if it is .mobi

Completely different

 

[pluto459]

Selling to who, the same LLL speculators. Get real. More and more people with unlimited funds are getting in the domain game everyday. Just because they buy your mobis doesnt mean they know what there doing. You just said the names are up already and they were just released. Ya, lets see at years end.Lets see whose buying your LLL now.

Clearly they are "worth" that much to many people if they're consistantly selling for that much (to many different buyers). :sold:

I really think that a couple of you need to do your homework before you play god and try predicting the future of .mobi. :td:

Ya .us are cheaper to horde.

Hey now....Pluto459

Please do not disgrace yourself and talk about .us as if it is .mobi

Completely different

Where is the guy who complained about my 12 posts? I am up to 51 now lol