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I visited here every day.But seems no more news here.
.mobi dead or .mobi on NP dead ?
.mobi dead or .mobi on NP dead ?
please disregard my last 2 posts. :notme:
Would you believe falling coconuts kill more people each year than sharks do?
And absolutely everyone who eats broccoli will die...........eventually :hehe:
What coconuts and sharks has to do with .mobi promotion you'll have to explain to me..BTW, how many coconuts kill sharks? (Before you make any assumptions you got to wonder if anyone is counting...probably some overpaid bureaucrat in the US govt Fish and Wildlife service, but I digress :lol
My biggest concern with investing in dot mobi would be the release of future extensions which could rival it, given that it has already been around for a few years and as mentioned in previous posts, not yet gained a significant foothold.
There is talk of extensions to fit your brand becoming available, how about the mobile phone manufacturers having their own extensions?
OK let's think of a better TLD for mobile phone friendly websites.
.phone
.tel
.mobile
.mob (nice)
.pda
.iphone
.portable (french)
.go
.small
.simple
.live
.go
so far .mobi is as good as any of these.
i like .go - does that exist?
Agree.The biggest competitor to .mobi in my opinion is itself.
They are making slow but sure progress on getting end users involved... but yes hopefully they start doing something with those premium domains soon. At least we've seen two of the two-character .mobi's being put to great use (NV.mobi and 53.mobi). It's a start... and hopefully a sign of good things ahead.Mtld needs to get those premium domains in the hands of non-domainers if the extension is going to have any chance of success. As Snoop said earlier, Mtld's vision of success most likely doesn't line up with the interests of domainers.
Speculative domain extensions are a gamble -- nothing more, nothing less.
Personally I think there's a whole lot more to go on than just blind luck when it comes to domains. Targeting certain market segments, building, growing traffic, moentizing, etc... a lot more can be done rather than just a roll of the dice. But some people don't learn from their mistakes and keep headed down bad roads, problem is often they don't know a good one from a bad one to begin with and never seem to figure it out. This is where the blind bashing and blind support for .mobi has been so misguided and unhelpful, blind bashers saying its dead and telling everyone to stay away, and blind supporters pretending that every string of characters that precedes the .mobi makes for a good domain name. Both are dead wrong. People are profiting from .mobi, be it resales, parking or development, but crap names aren't the way to do it.
I've been running my own experiment on this and will continue to. I've got a horrifically bad domain name that actually has keyword search volume, supercalifragilisticexpialidocious.mobi, which is a developed site (pretty weakly I might ad). I do zero promotion and while it still hasn't paid for it's own reg fees it does collect some admob revenue and does get traffic. I'll never get rich off of this domain, I'll be glad if it ever pays for its own reg fees. I'm curious if it breaks even in other extension also but I only have the .mobi. The point of it is to see how good a crap name can do in .mobi and so far, it ain't so good. And on the flip side I'm working hard on projects like Lodging.mobi to build real business around. Regardless of quantity, people need to focus on quality names or have a specific strategy in mind for their registrations. There's a whole lot of crap that has been and continues to be regged in all extensions, a lot of people making the same old mistakes over and over again. Thankfully the LookAtMyLame.mobi threads have diminished, I saw so much money being flushed away again and again on bad domains, and then some of those same people turned around and later declared the extension was crap because they couldn't make a dime on their crap domains. Get a plan together, do some research, know the market, get some quality domains and move forward, be realistic while also striving to succeed, whatever extension has your fancy.
Just want to stress that this goes for domainers in any extension... not just .mobi. Most pure domainers (especially new ones) don't make much money, regardless of what extension(s) they deal with. I think that's what you meant, just wanted to stress that part of it.My guess would be that most new (2006++)pure domainers are struggling to make a decent wage and I think we'll see more turn to development. Perhaps that's a blessing in disguise -- we all know top developers have made a couple digits more than the top domainers
It is somewhat a statement about the extension that people would even bother taking a photos of a .mobi ad and posting them up. I saw a .cc domain on a billboard the other day so maybe I should take a pic of that. Would it be a sign of a healthy tld or would the mere fact that a .mobi ad is "newsworthy" be saying something else?
Imagine if someone posted about how they saw a .com, .co.uk or .ca url? That would be about the most boring thread ever.
You're a good example of someone who has created success for yourself. My guess would be that most new (2006++)pure domainers are struggling to make a decent wage and I think we'll see more turn to development. Perhaps that's a blessing in disguise -- we all know top developers have made a couple digits more than the top domainers
Some yes, some no, imho... but only time will tellThe dotmobi pure-play domainers will have their day... that I am sure of.
unbelievable ... naysayers for the longest time have been saying... "show my an advertised .mobi", "nobody markets their .mobi", "when was the last time you saw a .mobi used in the media", "the general public will never know .mobi exists"
so when it's pointed out, and proven, that these things are starting to happen, like foxnews and the before mentioned bofa we are just being overzealous ... give me a break!
WOW am I glad I have missed this debate .. I think once the new gTLDs start to flow there could be a few heart attacks on here .. seriously calm down everyone - remember the golden rule - spread your investments.
Anyone who only invests in .com is dreaming. They are the exact same people who did not buy lll.coms when they were 70 bucks.
No seriously - I think 10 years from now all TLDs will be accepted . People are naturally lazy - if they can just remember the first bit of the domain and assume its a .com then they are happier - but in time everyone will learn to take note of the TLD too. Whatsit.whatsit - simple as that - not so hard is it?
I have been thinking its time to get rid of my lll.com domains - they really have plateaued over the last 5 years ....
AND I can think of loads of great .mobi names - eg. pizza.mobi , nytaxi.mobi - in fact I am just about to launch one
myself .. plus slimline, cutdown versions of normal sites - godaddy could use one for sure.
I may be going out on a limb here - but I suspect $10k invested in lll.me, lll.info and lll.mobi (approx 100 domains) would be worth far more in 5 years than one of my lll.com domains - anyone want to bet on that? I may just try that ... will this thread still be here in 5 years?
reserving 5000 premium domains, selling them off one by one, and focusing all energy on getting domainers invested in the extension really was genius on their part... Not good for the .mobi ecosystem however.
OK let's think of a better TLD for mobile phone friendly websites.
.phone
.tel
.mobile
.mob (nice)
.pda
.iphone
.portable (french)
.go
.small
.simple
.live
.go
so far .mobi is as good as any of these.
i like .go - does that exist?
how about :-
.nokia
.wii
.pod
.ipod
.sony
.lg
I may be going out on a limb here - but I suspect $10k invested in lll.me, lll.info and lll.mobi (approx 100 domains) would be worth far more in 5 years than one of my lll.com domains - anyone want to bet on that? I may just try that ... will this thread still be here in 5 years?
Oh man, this thread has gotten a bit wilder, but juicier!First of all, there is already considerable dilution in the extensions market. Each new one that starts,gets rationalized, and patronized(by domainers too), and its a cycle i've seen at least 4 times. I think .mobi is struggling, and LLL and one word owners are probably going to get the best out of .mobi sales on the aftermarket.
A few notes:
1.ccTLDs are in, and there's growth potential
2..is mobi is struggling?
3.The mobile web will boost .mobi
5. People are developing .mobis! and,
6. People really are ready to browse the mobile web and embrace all its functionalities!
The future is .mobi to me...
unbelievable ... naysayers for the longest time have been saying... "show my an advertised .mobi", "nobody markets their .mobi", "when was the last time you saw a .mobi used in the media", "the general public will never know .mobi exists"
so when it's pointed out, and proven, that these things are starting to happen, like foxnews and the before mentioned bofa we are just being overzealous ... give me a break!
The thing with those types of investments is they have huge holding costs. A low quality LLL.mobi would need to double in value in a year just for the owner to be in a breakeven scenario. People have made the same argument for years, and those people have stayed poor.
Then you have the downside risk of a single $10k dotcom - easily 20% potential on the downside as dilution starts to really eat into all but the highest tier of domains.. that's a $2,000 cost right there.
5 years & your basket of domains (50 names) has cost you $2,000 to 'hold' total invested $12,000
A single dotcom in 5 years may or may not have held its value... it may or may not have risen & it may or may not have collapsed in value.
whereas your basket of 50 names have spread your risk.... 20 names might be worthless... 20 names might be worth $200 each... (covering your holding costs)
in this scenario the other 10 names would need to average $1,000 each to breakeven but in 5 years they could be worth anything from $0 to ..... well, whatever... But I'd wager that 50 comparable names in alternative extensions will beat a single dotcom..
but I would, hand on heart go for the basket of 50 non-dotcom domains rather than a single $10k dotcom..