Mixed script "fake" IDN on Sedo

[wot]

-These are just a couple of many that are on featured domains at Sedo.com, there are very many!

Sedo had stopped allowing them for some time now but slipping back in to their old ways.

They are shown as IDN but they are simply mixed script, English and other languages cobbled together, to look like real English words. Many people have been caught out by this type of worthless rubbish in the past both on Sedo and on the various forums.


holíday.com






amerìca.com etc.

Well done NP's for removing many of them from the forum.

Make sure you don't get caught by them, particularly if you are new to domaining.

 

[Michael Ehrhardt]

ì = Regular latin small letter i with grave




Latin (lat. Lingua latina, latin language ') is an Indo-German language originally spoken by the Latins, the inhabitants of Latium Rome as the center. The earliest evidence date back to the 5th or 6th century BC back (early Latin), from the third century BC are longer texts before (Old Latin), its full shape in the form of the now mainly known and learned classical Latin reached (Font -) language in the first century BC.

Latin was the official language of the Roman Empire and became the dominant lingua franca in the Western Mediterranean. While developed from the spoken vernacular, the so-called Vulgar Latin, the Romance languages, the Latin of the Roman writers remained as a dead language to modern times the leading language of literature, science, politics and the church. Scholars such as Thomas Aquinas, Petrarch, Erasmus, Luther, Copernicus, Descartes or Newton have written works into Latin. Until the 19th century, the lectures were held at universities throughout Europe in Latin. In Poland, Hungary and the Holy Roman Empire, Latin was the official language until then. In thousands of foreign words and phrases reclining and Latin is now also present in non-Roman languages such as German or English. In the formation of new terminology is resorted again and again in Latin.

English =
is a West Germanic language that was first spoken in early medieval England and is now a global lingua franca.[4][5] It is an official language of almost 60 sovereign states and the most commonly spoken language in sovereign states including the United Kingdom, the United States, Canada, Australia, Ireland, New Zealand and a number of Caribbean nations.[6] It is the third-most-common native language in the world, after Mandarin and Spanish.[7] It is widely learned as a second language and is an official language of the European Union and of the United Nations, as well as of many world organisations.

English had several historical forms. The earliest form was Old English, a set of Anglo-Frisian dialects brought to Great Britain by Anglo-Saxon settlers in the 5th century. Middle English began in the late 11th century with the Norman conquest of England.[8] Early Modern English began in the late 15th century with the introduction of the printing press to London and the Great Vowel Shift.

Through the worldwide influence of the British Empire, English spread around the world from the 17th to mid-20th centuries. Through newspapers, books, the telegraph, the telephone, phonograph records, radio, satellite television, and the Internet, as well as the emergence of the United States as a global superpower, English has become the leading language of international discourse and the lingua franca in many regions and in professional contexts such as science.

 

[wot]

And still you try to justify the garbage you are peddling.

We know I grave is acceptable, under the right circumstances.


It is certainly not the way you are using it to create "fake" IDN. You are doing nothing new. We got rid of this type of thing before and hopefully we will do the same thing again.

 

[eqz13489]

New to this stuff..

Details:

৪৪.COM

Domain Name without content.


"** This domain contains special non-English characters (i.e. "ä","ö","ü","á","é", "í") and is an Internationalized Domain (IDN). Please note that even if the signs in this domain name appear like regular signs, the domain may not be always reachable by typing in the name, due to browser limitations on IDN names and user setup. The domain can be reached by typing in: xn--47ba.com
"
Isn't the above a good disclaimer/warning?

I would have never realized at first that 88.com was an IDN domain name.
I actually own one IDN name, zëro .com - shows as xn--zro-jma .com in most browsers (iphone actually will show these IDN's properly)

Anyway, my point is that my IDN clearly has special symbols. But that 88.com looks like two eights obviously. I might have even looked over the disclaimer at first pointing it out, honestly. Sedo should def make a better effort to highlight that aspect for these cases.

On another note, my IDN gets me about $1 per click on sedo.

 

[wot]

I would have never realized at first that 88.com was an IDN domain name.
I actually own one IDN name, zëro .com - shows as xn--zro-jma .com in most browsers (iphone actually will show these IDN's properly)

Anyway, my point is that my IDN clearly has special symbols. But that 88.com looks like two eights obviously. I might have even looked over the disclaimer at first pointing it out, honestly. Sedo should def make a better effort to highlight that aspect for these cases.

On another note, my IDN gets me about $1 per click on sedo.

We had the same problems about 3 years ago with Russians and Ukrainians trying a similar thing.
A few people were caught out not knowing what they had bought. Took nearly a year to get Sedo and other auction sites to take action which they finally did. Clearing featured domains of the fakes and eventually banning the perpetrators.

NP's already cleared out most of the fakes that were posted here a few weeks ago. More than Sedo or DomainNameSales.com have done - yet.

 

[Michael Ehrhardt]

Hindu-Arabic numerals
0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
Bengali numerals
০ ১ ২ ৩ ৪ ৫ ৬ ৭ ৮ ৯

 

[wot]

This is from Sedo's home page


৪৪৪.com1d 14h
chì.com2d 12h

There is nothing to indicate these are IDN ( Albeit fake)

Click on them, still nothing to indicate the scam!

 

[wot]

So Sedo, what do you have to say about that. You are fooling people in to thinking these are real names!

You should be ashamed! But from past experience we know that is not the case.

Equally DomainNameSales.com are just as bad if not worse, scandalous but very few people seem to care.

What a sad industry this is!

 

[Michael Ehrhardt]

wow
i guess you need another lesson

A L P H A B E T

★ XN--LPHABET-KBD.COM ( ɑlphabet.com )


★ The WWW was developed in 1989 at CERN (near Geneva) by Tim Berners-Lee !!!

★ History of the alphabet

The name alphabet goes to the first two letters of the Greek writing system returns
( Alpha – α & Beta – β )
The history of the alphabet began in ancient Egypt, more than a thousand years after the beginning of the script.
The first alphabet was created around 2000 v. Christi and belonged to the language of the Semitic workers in Egypt (see Proto-Canaanite alphabet).

1. Mandarin 1,000 millions
2. English 450 million
3. Hindi nearly 400 million
4. Spanish 370 million
5. Russian ( cyrillic ) nearly 300 million
6. Arabic more than 200 million
7. Bengali nearly 200 million
8. Portuguese nearly 200 million
9. Malay-Indonesian 150 million
10. Japanese 130 million
11. German 120 million

★ ★ ★ The first true alphabet was Greek, the most widely Latin

★ English alphabet

The modern English alphabet is a Latin alphabet consisting of 26 letters
(each having an uppercase and a lowercase form)
the same letters that are found in the ISO basic Latin alphabet

★ Latin

is an Indo-German language originally spoken by the Latins, the inhabitants of Latium Rome as the center. The earliest evidence date back to the 5th or 6th century BC back (early Latin), from the third century BC are longer texts before (old Latin), its full shape in the form of the now mainly known and learned classical Latin reached language in the first century BC.

★ Latin

was the official language of the Roman Empire and became the dominant lingua franca in the Western Mediterranean. While developed from the spoken vernacular, the so-called Vulgar Latin, the Romance languages, the Latin of the Roman writers remained as a dead language to modern times the leading language of literature, science, politics and the church.
Scholars such as :
★ Aquinas - Copernicus - Erasmus - Luther or Newton have written works into Latin !

Until the 19th century, the lectures were held at universities throughout Europe in Latin.

In Poland, Hungary and the Holy Roman Empire, Latin was the official language until then. In thousands of foreign words and phrases reclining and Latin is now also present in non-Roman languages such as German or English. In the formation of new terminology is resorted again and again in Latin.

★ English

is a West Germanic language that was first spoken in early medieval England and is now a global lingua franca. It is an official language of almost 60 sovereign states and the most commonly spoken language in sovereign states including the

★ America - Australia - Canada- England - Ireland - New Zealand & Caribbean nations.

It is the third-most-common native language in the world, after Mandarin and Spanish. It is widely learned as a second language and is an official language of the European Union and of the United Nations, as well as of many world organisations.

★ English

had several historical forms. The earliest form was Old English, a set of Anglo-Frisian dialects brought to Great Britain by Anglo-Saxon settlers in the 5th century.

★ Through the worldwide influence of the British Empire, English spread around the globe

Arabic ( Hindu ) numerals
0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9

Bengali numerals
0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
০ ১ ২ ৩ ৪ ৫ ৬ ৭ ৮ ৯

Cyrillic numerals
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
А В Г Д Є Ѕ З И Ѳ

Devanagari numerals
0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
० १ २ ३ ४ ५ ६ ७ ८ ९

Gujarati numerals
0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
૦ ૧ ૨ ૩ ૪ ૫ ૬ ૭ ૮ ૯

Gurmukhi numerals
0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
੦ ੧ ੨ ੩ ੪ ੫ ੬ ੭ ੮ ੯

Kannada numerals

0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
೦ ೧ ೨ ೩ ೪ ೫ ೬ ೭ ೮ ೯

Nepal numerals
0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
० १ २ ३ ४ ५ ६ ७ ८ ९

Telugu numerals
0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
0 ౧ ౨ ౩ ౪ ౫ ౬ ౭ ౮ ౯

Alphabet International
a = latin
á = latin acute
ă = latin breve
ắ = latin breve & acute
ằ = latin breve & grave
ẳ = latin breve & hook
ȃ = latin inverted brave
ǎ = latin caron
â = latin circumflex
ấ = latin cirumflex & acute
ä = latin diaeresis
ȧ = latin dot
ậ = latin circumflex & dot
à = latin grave
ầ = latin circumflex & grave
ȁ = latin double grave
ả = latin hook
ẩ = latin circumflex & hook
ẳ = latin hook
ᶏ = latin retroflex hook
ā = latin macron
ą = latin minuscule
å = latin ring
ḁ = latin ring below
ẚ = latin right half ring
ã = latin tilde
ẫ = lain circumflex & tilde
ǡ = Dot (diacritic)

all for free

 

[Michael Ehrhardt]

Important Notice:
** This domain contains special non-English characters (i.e. "ä","ö","ü","á","é", "í") and is an Internationalized Domain (IDN). Please note that even if the signs in this domain name appear like regular signs, the domain may not be always reachable by typing in the name, due to browser limitations on IDN names and user setup. The domain can be reached by typing in: XN--YDA.COM.

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Offer Description
ā.com ( xn--yda )

ā

In Romanised Mandarin Chinese ( pinyin )
it is used to represent A spoken with a level high tone
( first tone )

It is used in commercial names such as Drāno and Powerāde.

 

[Michael Ehrhardt]

so who decide what is ,,fake,, IDN ?

 

[Michael Ehrhardt]

you guy,s think only in english
that,s your disadvantage

 

[wot]

"The poster doth protest too much, methinks"

WS almost!

 

[domain hacks]

so who decide what is ,,fake,, IDN ?

Why is this monkey still around?

 

[Michael Ehrhardt]

Why is this monkey still around?

We are all monkeys

 

[Michael Ehrhardt]

Why is this monkey still around?

 

[Michael Ehrhardt]

Internationalized domain name
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Example of Greek IDN with domain name in non-Latin alphabet: ουτοπία.δπθ.gr
An internationalized domain name (IDN) is an Internet domain name that contains at least one label that is displayed in software applications, in whole or in part, in a language-specific script or alphabet, such as Arabic, Chinese, Cyrillic, Tamil, Hebrew or the Latin alphabet-based characters with diacritics or ligatures, such as French. These writing systems are encoded by computers in multi-byte Unicode. Internationalized domain names are stored in the Domain Name System as ASCII strings using Punycode transcription.

The Domain Name System, which performs a lookup service to translate user-friendly names into network addresses for locating Internet resources, is restricted in practice[1] to the use of ASCII characters, a practical limitation that initially set the standard for acceptable domain names. The internationalization of domain names is a technical solution to translate names written in language-native scripts into an ASCII text representation that is compatible with the Domain Name System. Internationalized domain names can only be used with applications that are specifically designed for such use; they require no changes in the infrastructure of the Internet.

IDN was originally proposed in December 1996 by Martin Dürst[2][3] and implemented in 1998 by Tan Juay Kwang and Leong Kok Yong under the guidance of Tan Tin Wee. After much debate and many competing proposals, a system called Internationalizing Domain Names in Applications (IDNA)[4] was adopted as a standard, and has been implemented in several top-level domains.

In IDNA, the term internationalized domain name means specifically any domain name consisting only of labels to which the IDNA ToASCII algorithm (see below) can be successfully applied. In March 2008, the IETF formed a new IDN working group to update[5] the current IDNA protocol.

In October 2009, the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) approved the creation of internationalized country code top-level domains (IDN ccTLDs) in the Internet that use the IDNA standard for native language scripts.[6][7] In May 2010 the first IDN ccTLD were installed in the DNS root zone.[8]

 

[wot]

you guy,s think only in english
that,s your disadvantage

I see you are now following me, how sad and quite creepy and pathetic.

 

[Michael Ehrhardt]

I see you are now following me, how sad and quite creepy and pathetic.

 

[dordomai]

so who decide what is ,,fake,, IDN ?

Please tell me how to type this one in... ā.com ( xn--yda )

A real domain can be typed-in. If you can't type it in what is it good for?

 

[wot]

so who decide what is ,,fake,, IDN ?

I guess you could having created so many of them?

 

[Michael Ehrhardt]

Please tell me how to type this one in... ā.com ( xn--yda )

A real domain can be typed-in. If you can't type it in what is it good for?

pls pay attention

ã.com = www.xn--yda.com is a real domain ( shortest domain ever )
you have to learn and think international

ā

In Romanised Mandarin Chinese ( pinyin )
it is used to represent A spoken with a level high tone
( first tone )

It is used in commercial names such as Drāno and Powerāde.

Ā, lowercase ā, is a grapheme, a Latin A with a macron, is used in several orthographies.

In some languages Ā is used to denote a long A. Examples are the Baltic languages, Polynesian languages, some romanizations of Japanese (rōmaji), Persian, Pashto, and Arabic, and some Latin texts (especially for learners). In Romanised Mandarin Chinese (pinyin) it is used to represent A spoken with a level high tone (first tone). It is used in some orthography-based transcriptions of English to represent the diphthong /eɪ/, and also in commercial names such as Drāno and Powerāde.

In the International Alphabet of Sanskrit Transliteration, Ā represents the open back unrounded vowel, आ, not to be confused with the similar Devanagari character for the mid central vowel, अ.

In the languages other than Sanskrit,[1] Ā is sorted with other A's and is not considered a separate letter. The macron is only considered when sorting words that are otherwise identical. For example, in Māori, tāu (meaning your) comes after tau (meaning year), but before taumata (hill).

if you have a smartphone , just press the a and hold it
if you have an Apple Keyboard , just press the a and hold it

Important Notice:
** This domain contains special non-English characters (i.e. "ä","ö","ü","á","é", "í") and is an Internationalized Domain (IDN). Please note that even if the signs in this domain name appear like regular signs, the domain may not be always reachable by typing in the name, due to browser limitations on IDN names and user setup. The domain can be reached by typing in: XN--YDA.COM

 

[Michael Ehrhardt]

IDN Sales :

http://www.domain-recht.de/domain-handel/domain-preise/de-domain-preise

ä
Domain-Name Jahr Verkaufspreis

äthiopien.de 2009 14280,- EUR
ärzte.de 2007 56000,- EUR

 

[Michael Ehrhardt]

Alessandra Ambrosio
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Alessandra Ambrosio

Ambrosio at a Victoria's Secret store on October 8, 2009 in Miami, Florida
Born Alessandra Corine Maria Ambrósio
April 11, 1981 (age 35)[1]
Erechim, Rio Grande do Sul, Brazil
Nationality Brazilian
Other names Ale[2]
Occupation

• Model
• actress

Years active 1999–present
Partner(s) Jamie Mazur (2008-present)
Children 2
Website www.alessandraambrosio.com.br
Modeling information
Height 177 cm (5 ft 9.6 in)[3]
Hair color Brown
Eye color Brown
Manager Storm Model Management
Marylin Agency
Model Management Hamburg
Clyne Model Management Priscillas Model Management Sydney
Alessandra Corine Maria Ambrósio[4] (Portuguese pronunciation: [aleˈsɐ̃dɾɐ ɐ̃ˈbɾɔzju]; born April 11, 1981)[1] is a Brazilian model and actress. Ambrosio is known for her work with Victoria's Secret and was chosen as the first spokesmodel for the company's "PINK" line. Ambrosio is currently one of the Victoria's Secret Angels and has modeled for brands such as Next, Armani Exchange, Christian Dior, and Ralph Lauren.

Ambrosio serves as an ambassador for the National Multiple Sclerosis Society.[5] In 2012, she was ranked number six on Forbes' list of the highest-paid models, estimated to have earned $6.6 million in one year.[6] She is often cited by the popular media as one of the world's sexiest women.[7] As an Angel, she was chosen as one of People magazine's annual "100 Most Beautiful People in the World" in May 2007.[8]

Early life
Ambrosio was born in Erechim, Brazil on April 11, 1981. Her parents are Brazilians of Italian and Polish ancestry and own a petrol station.[1][9][10] She enrolled at a modelling class at the age of 12, and at the age of 14, she was one of 20 finalists for the 1996 Elite Model Look national competition for Brazil.[9][11] Ambrosio was always insecure about her large ears, and at the age of 11, she had cosmetic surgery to have her ears pinned back, though two years later she suffered complications.[12] In 2006, she appeared on The Tyra Banks Show, and said that the surgery was a bad experience and has discouraged her from ever getting plastic surgery again.[13]

i guess she is a ,,FAKE,, because she has ha FAKE name : ále

 

[Michael Ehrhardt]

you are : operation blind

 

[dordomai]

You leave out the fact that no keyboard in a major language or probably any language has an "ā" key making this domain unsuitable for a serious web project as no one can type it into google or type it in directly.

If a domain can not be reached what is it good for?

To give a practical example:

Let's say you build a website and call it ā.com

Then you tell your friend about it. Now how can your friend reach it?

Typing in a.com ? That won't work as it does not exist.
Typing in a.com into Google? That won't work as it will give you results for "a" not "ā".
Typing in ā.com ? Ok. That would work. But where is the "ā" on your keyboard? There is none.
Typing in ā.com into Google. Same problem.

So what would your friend have to do?

He would need to know that this letter is called an "a" with a "macron". Then he would have too Google "type a with macron instructions" to figure out how to do it.

Then he would have to follow these instructions:

http://www.personal.psu.edu/ejp10/psu/gotunicode/macron.html

Windows
Character Map
Unfortunately, the Character Map, which requires you to cut and paste individual symbols, is still the most reliable option. You can also see the Penn State Character Map instructions for directions with screen captures.

1. Click on the Windows Start menu, then All Programs (Start » All Programs) on the lower left of your screen. Select Programs » Accessories » System Tools » Character Map.
2. A window should open which displays a series of characters in a grid as in the image below.
3. Make sure that the Font from the dropdown list matches that of the document you are creating. If you doing some other function, such as filling out a Web form, select Times New Roman as the Font.
4. Look in the grid for the symbol you want. If necessary, use the scroll bars on the right to view more characters.
   NOTE: Many Windows fonts include Cyrillic and Greek letters by default. For other scripts, use Arial Unicode or some other appropriate font.
5. If the character you want is not in the grid, change the font to Arial Unicode MS, Lucida Sans Unicode, Tahoma, Times New Roman, Arial or some other appropriate font.
6. Double-click on any character you wish to insert then click the Select button to make it appear in the Characters to Copy field. You can Select more than one character at this time.
7. Highlight one or more of the characters in the Characters to Copy you wish to insert then click the Copy button.
8. Minimize from the Character Map window, and open or switch to the application window in which you wish to insert a the character.
9. Position your cursor in the location you wish to insert the character.
10. Under the Edit Menu, choose Paste (or use the keyboard shortcut Control+V). The character should appear.
11. If necessary, change the font of the inserted character to the one selected in the Character Map.

and then FINALLY he can reach ā.com.

Of course in the real world. 99% of people would have given up before reaching the domain.