.tv Making a living on .tv

[johntv]

As there are some big .tv players here in this forum, I was just wondering if any of you makes a living online with their (.tv) portfolio or making enough by ads, sponsering or selling (.tv) names that you could if you wanted to.

Myself, I am not even close as my costs are still higher then any returns, although I have only invested so far and the time to harvest is starting now.

 

[nrmillions]

way too hard to make a living off of .tv right now unless you have a crazy developed .tv site that draws in millions of visitors per month.

 

[TheWatcher]

As there are some big .tv players here in this forum, I was just wondering if any of you makes a living online with their (.tv) portfolio or making enough by ads, sponsering or selling (.tv) names that you could if you wanted to.

Myself, I am not even close as my costs are still higher then any returns, although I have only invested so far and the time to harvest is starting now.

Right now, I'm doing reselling and development, but slowly moving to depend on them so far so good.

 

[localexperts]

way too hard to make a living off of .tv right now unless you have a crazy developed .tv site that draws in millions of visitors per month.

Actually not true. All depends on your business model. For CPM and PPC, I agree with the above statement. There are other business models besides CPM and PPC.

 

[BDM1]

I hope to have my sites online in 4 weeks time if everything goes according to plan.
I have already pre sold my advertising, so I have a good stream coming as soon as I get online..
I think to make big money with .tv you have to be first to the market with your product.
I think mine will be the first globally and the money will be good, but that isnt the most important factor to me - I get off on coming up with the concepts and getting my vision to the web.. Im not saying the money isnt a motivator as ofcourse it is, but the concept is the passion.. the money will be the bonus.

 

[Makis.TV]

i dont know if i m a tv player yet :D
but i think i invested a fair amount on them.
I want to sell most of them and then start
developing one of them.

Most money i plan to come from reselling.

i have other money makers that pay for tv domains.

After some years i hope this changes!

 

[equity78]

I think there are different ways. Are you using a .tv site to run a business ? Online University.tv is an educational site with products and services for example. or Through reselling domains and PPC. I certainly think many here could run a business on a domain they own and make a living, but just selling domains and PPC would be much more difficult. Owning a Geo like you do JOHN that is a living breathing site I think you could earn a living off of with no problem. But I mean a real live geo, Live programming, quality local information, everything.

The other way is to have a lot of sites that make a little, if you can have 50 sites that make $50 to $100 a month but 50 sites built is a lot of work.

 

[StargateCapital]

I think as new technologies emerge, making money with .tv will become easier and easier. The days of living off the .tv's alone, IMO, is not too far in the distant future. There are always sales in the aftermarket, right?

CCD

 

[johntv]

I think there are different ways. Are you using a .tv site to run a business ? Online University.tv is an educational site with products and services for example. or Through reselling domains and PPC...The other way is to have a lot of sites that make a little, if you can have 50 sites that make $50 to $100 a month but 50 sites built is a lot of work.

My idea Raymond is to develop many domains (already have many semi-developed so far) to receive enough ad income to cover all renewal (premium) fees and hosting costs, am not there yet, but around half way.

The days of living off the .tv's alone, IMO, is not too far in the distant future. There are always sales in the aftermarket, right?

CCD, as you are a successful .com domainer who recently stepped into the .tv world, in your opinion, do you see any similarities with the way it went with .com? And what are the reasons you are optimistic on .tv?

I just read the thread about Bonkerstwo (you seem to know him?) and he still thinks .tv is "worthless", does that mean that you (strongly) disagree with him?

Sorry if I ask too much, but you are one of the few who indeed make a living online, so your opinion is highly appreciated by me, thanks

 

[StargateCapital]

PM Sent.

 

[johntv]

PM Sent.

Thanks CCD!

 

[domainacrobat]

I have no idea how much I make from parking or sites. I do not even atempt to make money from monetizing my domains, not even my .coms. I am a strict reseller and small time developer. In fact I do not even optimize my keywords LOL. Just too many names to take care of, plus I am a photographer and can't spend all my time domianing, retouching takes a long time!

So the answer is no, I make no money from my domians beyond selling them for profit.

But i have alot of FUN along the way! :kickass:

As far as getting a return on investment I am +$3000 in .tv. Invested about $4k with sales totalling about $7000.

So yes I am making money from selling .TV

 

[johntv]

I am +$3000 in .tv. Invested about $4k with sales totalling about $7000.

Not bad at all
Think the time of starting selling .tv's has begon. So far, I have concentrated on buying names only, mainly .tv, and have not focussed on the best way to sell names, parking optimalization and development, think it's time to take this next step, also as there are no cheap .tv names left anyway

 

[domainacrobat]

Not bad at all
Think the time of starting selling .tv's has begon. So far, I have concentrated on buying names only, mainly .tv, and have not focussed on the best way to sell names, parking optimalization and development, think it's time to take this next step, also as there are no cheap .tv names left anyway

Hey thanks John,

Wish I could say I just knew how to be successful. But thats not it at all. I originally tried to hand reg about 400 .coms. Of course like a newbie I registered over 200 tm names in search of traffic and clicks. When you start out you read stories of folks making a living on clicks. Its not really that easy. At one point I got it up to almost $200/ month, but it was extremely tedious and not worth the effort. Then cam a letter from Amazon , then Microsoft twice. So I deleted and let them expire. In search of a new business model, I started sifting expired .coms for PR links etc. It too, was extremely tedious and the return was not big enough. I then started buying .mobi because everyone said it was against the grain. One thing me and Mark Cuban have in common is this opinion: "If everyone agrees with you its a waste of time." If everyone has the same idea it is too late to stake your claim IMO. That is where our similarities end. :D My .mobi experience really primed me for .TV. It was the first time I had experienced a landrush. I was niche focused on future mobile services at the time. But finding an enduser or even a speculator who will pay $XXXX for a future mobile tech on a new extension is extremely difficult. I followed the type of names that sold well, they were all generic keywords, Geo, first names. Lesson learned. I got into .tv last October when I registered Censored.tv - I got great appraisals and reviews so I bought more and more and more. I did not just buy TV related I also bought generic. Generic Generic Generic. :bingo:


So in retrospect yes I have done pretty good, but I have had to learn the hard way. .Coms still negative by maybe $500-$1000, .Nets negative by $150 .Mobi investment made about 30% profit on a $2k investment. I now have ZERO .mobis I am happy to say! Thank goodness I have learned over the last year and a half.

Plus I have 120 .TVs left to sell!

 

[deb]

i would say treat it as an investment rather than "making living" the latter would be too hard IMO.

20k plus in .TV premium and non premium renewals p.a.

.tv is usually the best ppc return (27%+ctr) in the portfolio over 11 groups.

no meaningful .tv sales yet by choice, some very healthy xx,xxx offers but waiting for a few years to maximise the investment. you can buy land/property/condo i chose domains, like land i am happy to pay the annual rates/renewals. i believe .TV will be very valuable "property" and all the signs are very promising!!

its a ten year plan to be able to make the investment work well.

 

[noisez]

bump. I dont really think you can make a living unless you have alot or the domain has lots of traffic

 

[johntv]

"If everyone agrees with you its a waste of time." If everyone has the same idea it is too late to stake your claim IMO.

Nice quote!

We all have to learn by making mistakes, I have still some terrible .tv names I regged in the start, learn and move on

some very healthy xx,xxx offers but waiting for a few years to maximise the investment.

Thanks for sharing, xx,xxx offers on .tv's, not bad at all!

 

[wot]

no meaningful .tv sales yet by choice, some very healthy xx,xxx offers but waiting for a few years to maximise the investment. .

If I had ANY offers of xx,xxx on my .tv names they would have been sold yesterday.

Come to think of it , even offers of x,xxx would probably have the same result.

 

[deb]

If I had ANY offers of xx,xxx on my .tv names they would have been sold yesterday.

Come to think of it , even offers of x,xxx would probably have the same result.

its a long term vision thing. i think good oneword.tv domains will do excedingly well after about another 5 years. if i get agood price now i will take it but i have a hunch it will be so much better after 5 years as the adoption of .tv globally really ramps up especially after recent events i am very bullish on good brandable .tv domains.

i bid on jack.tv but missed out. it was a real good buy for both parties.

ps if a "great and fair" content/revenue option "turned up" you would have to probably consider it a business rather than a speculative investment. i dont understand development so i keep it simple

 

[*AllThings.tv*]

There is a lot of activity in .tv many unaware of because there is a world outside this forum that I encourage you to explore. There are more new .tv sites being launched than ever before. As those spread, increase in size, and begin their marketing campaigns, .tv will be very much in front of the faces of many.

I strongly recommend thinking out of the box. There are a number of things you can do with your .tv names other than park them if you feel you are not capable of building a full blown professional site. There are mid-level opportunities that once pursued can yield yearly incomes in the six figure area.

However, these opportunities are only there for those unafraid to pursue them, those unafraid to make mistakes, and those unafraid to fail.

Learn as much as you can about the Internet, the technologies being deployed, and the untapped niche opportunities that Fortune 500 companies cannot tap. Develop those opportunities so that some company sees the value in what you are doing and wants to acquire your site, your brains and talent, or both.

Nobody will make a living in .tv unless they jump in head first willing to learn and fail at the same time.