LLLL.com Value Decreasing?

[DLarkin84]

Ok so everyone is always talking about how LLLL.com values are constantly increasing but does anyone think the value of them could ever decrease? Please list some reasons why you think LLLL.com's will continue to increase in value or why LLLL.com will eventually decrease in value.

 

[italiandragon]

I would have offered my entire LLLL.com collection for FFF, but I didn't think Snoop would accept that :hehe:

I would ask rather to Snoop how much FFFF.com would be worth.

I have my answer but I`m sure it`s not similar to his.

Welcome back Lorenzo! It's great to see the might dragon around again.
:kickass:

Thanks David and thanks everyone, no need to celebrate it as I`m simply one of a big Community.


Also thanks for your random $200 offer on one of my LLLL How many thousands people did you email to don`t even realise you were emailing me too?

 

[chenzen]

Also thanks for your random $200 offer on one of my LLLL How many thousands people did you email to don`t even realise you were emailing me too?

lol

 

[snoop]

I wish everyone notice that OIL prices was not taken into consideration and in a Worldwide recession we are moving in, unfortunately some downtrend in THE SHORT TERM was inevitable. You did not manage to get your $100,000 asking price on FFF.com , don`t you wonder why? Same reason.

I'm scratching my head at exactly what your point is. I never asked 100k for the name, I started it with a BIN of 95k and worked downwards until it sold, what I start the BIN at is not what I think the name is worth, it would not be logical to sell a name like that.

I don't think lll.com have really seen much in the way of price falls either, I think there is a bit of price weakness at the moment, but in the main these names have bucked the downtrend this year. Are you saying you think lll.com's have fallen greatly in value?

 

[xman]

Welcome back Lorenzo.

Good to see your post again.

It`s very low attacking someone when the person is unable to reply.

Congratulations Snoop: you achieved your mission bashing LLLL.com

I wish everyone notice that OIL prices was not taken into consideration and in a Worldwide recession we are moving in, unfortunately some downtrend in THE SHORT TERM was inevitable. You did not manage to get your $100,000 asking price on FFF.com , don`t you wonder why? Same reason.

 

[Andrei P.]

I don't understand why Snoop decided that LLLL.com market doesn't have future. Yes, it collapsed (but only in comparison with very short time in February). LLLL.com low-end prices are quite firm for recent two months after hype and hysteric in January-February. Yes you can buy them now even for 26-27$ sometimes (worst ones). I purchased majority of them in November-December for less than that and if I sell them today I will still have ROI

But what's interesting. We see these prices (3-4 regfee for worst) even taking into consideration that there are about 50 daily drops. Compare prices of LLL.biz and number of drops of LLL.biz. This one factor shows how strong LLLL.com market may be after number of drops reduces. It will reduce sooner or later, when minimum price of worst LLLL.com will be around 50-60$ and when we will see one full after-buy-out year passes (it will mean that LLLL.coms will be in hands of investors). How many drops of LLL.coms we have today per month? Now multiply this number * 26 and you will get how many drops we will see in 4-5 years.

Generics are good. Nobody argues this. But prices are so high that it's impossible for newbies to take part in it. Everybody is confident that LLL.com prices will continue to rise (as I understand to the extent when you cannot already sell it with ROI to end-user and when end-users will be struggling with investors to own them). But with this confidence don't you accept that it becomes more and more impossible for newbies to take part in domaining at all? LLLL.com is exactly niche that will have very important role in domain history.

Rich people currently become even richer while poor become even poorer. I see that interest at drop auctions for even low-end LLLL.coms at these prices is huge and I see more and more newcomers to these auctions. 2008 year will be decisive in LLLL.com history. After everyone will see that there is no drops (and there will no be too many drops to crash the market, I think that number of drops will be ordinary or even less) the prices will start continuously rising the same as today they rise for WJZ, JQK, JYQ, XJQ, YXQ, OYY, YKQ, VZY etc.

And as I already told this... Possibility of YXQ.com sale to end-user with 50% ROI is significantly less than possibility of YXQZ-type sale to end-user with 1000% ROI.

I fully conscious that LLLL.com market is speculative the same as LLL.com market today.

 

[DLarkin84]

I don't understand why Snoop decided that LLLL.com market doesn't have future. Yes, it collapsed (but only in comparison with very short time in February). LLLL.com low-end prices are quite firm for recent two months after hype and hysteric in January-February. Yes you can buy them now even for 26-27$ sometimes (worst ones). I purchased majority of them in November-December for less than that and if I sell them today I will still have ROI

But what's interesting. We see these prices (3-4 regfee for worst) even taking into consideration that there are about 50 daily drops. Compare prices of LLL.biz and number of drops of LLL.biz. This one factor shows how strong LLLL.com market may be after number of drops reduces. It will reduce sooner or later, when minimum price of worst LLLL.com will be around 50-60$ and when we will see one full after-buy-out year passes (it will mean that LLLL.coms will be in hands of investors). How many drops of LLL.coms we have today per month? Now multiply this number * 26 and you will get how many drops we will see in 4-5 years.

Generics are good. Nobody argues this. But prices are so high that it's impossible for newbies to take part in it. Everybody is confident that LLL.com prices will continue to rise (as I understand to the extent when you cannot already sell it with ROI to end-user and when end-users will be struggling with investors to own them). But with this confidence don't you accept that it becomes more and more impossible for newbies to take part in domaining at all? LLLL.com is exactly niche that will have very important role in domain history.

Rich people currently become even richer while poor become even poorer. I see that interest at drop auctions for even low-end LLLL.coms at these prices is huge and I see more and more newcomers to these auctions. 2008 year will be decisive in LLLL.com history. After everyone will see that there is no drops (and there will no be too many drops to crash the market, I think that number of drops will be ordinary or even less) the prices will start continuously rising the same as today they rise for WJZ, JQK, JYQ, XJQ, YXQ, OYY, YKQ, VZY etc.

And as I already told this... Possibility of YXQ.com sale to end-user with 50% ROI is significantly less than possibility of YXQZ-type sale to end-user with 1000% ROI.

I fully conscious that LLLL.com market is speculative the same as LLL.com market today.

Great post Ergo, You make a lot of really great points. I have a lot of faith in the LLLL.com market and thats why I'm in it for the long haul.

 

[netklick]

Good investors look at long-term investment; short flippers may be hurting now, but this is a great time for people to buy up more LLLL dot coms. In 6 months, the number of daily drops should be lower than today, and price will eventually start to claim up.

I am buying about 5 to 10 LLLL every week, low and high quality. I will continue to do this because I see this is a great opportunity for me and other domainers with a low budget. Don't miss out on another great opportunity - you will look back in a few years and regret.

 

[DLarkin84]

I don't know about everyone else but I'm really taking advantage of the lower prices of good quality LLLL.com's. I'm also buying some lower quality domains for around $25 - $35 each. Paying registration fees for the next couple years is no concern to me as I look at the LLLL.com market as a long term investment. I believe prices of LLLL.com's will continue to rise due to the fact that people are buying up a lot of LLLL.net's and some are even starting to buy LLLL.org's (I own a few).

 

[netklick]

I don't know about everyone else but I'm really taking advantage of the lower prices of good quality LLLL.com's. I'm also buying some lower quality domains for around $25 - $35 each. Paying registration fees for the next couple years is no concern to me as I look at the LLLL.com market as a long term investment. I believe prices of LLLL.com's will continue to rise due to the fact that people are buying up a lot of LLLL.net's and some are even starting to buy LLLL.org's (I own a few).

I totally agree with you. This is what I am doing as well. I don't mind holding low quality LLLL for another few years for an end user to knock on my door. It will pay off - one domain will pay for the rest!

Also look at LLLL .cn market!

 

[DLarkin84]

I totally agree with you. This is what I am doing as well. I don't mind holding low quality LLLL for another few years for an end user to knock on my door. It will pay off - one domain will pay for the rest!

Also look at LLLL .cn market!

I'll take a look at those as well. What does .cn stand for?

 

[Idees]

ccTLD for China

I'll take a look at those as well. What does .cn stand for?

 

[italiandragon]

Are you saying you think lll.com's have fallen greatly in value?

No, I`m not.

I can agree that LLL.com are the strongest, followed by LLLL.com

 

[Steven]

Welcome back Lorenzo

 

[snoop]

I don't understand why Snoop decided that LLLL.com market doesn't have future

That is not what I'm saying at all, my point is llll.com prices are still highly inflated, not that they "don't have a future".

LLLL.com low-end prices are quite firm for recent two months after hype and hysteric in January-February.

I don't think prices have been "firm" for the last two months, they have had heavy falls over than period.

 

[raredn.com]

I don't think lll.com have really seen much in the way of price falls either, I think there is a bit of price weakness at the moment, but in the main these names have bucked the downtrend this year. Are you saying you think lll.com's have fallen greatly in value?

If LLL.com stays strong, then quality LLLL.com must stay strong, infact all domain names that are .com and high quality must stay strong, as there is a pattern between them, quality domain names are an interrelated investment

Most of the time I have a continuous flow of domain names on auction on ebay, I would have to see a price drop on my domain name sales overall from 2007, but I am only seeing price rises, this is evident on other sellers I am watching too

I am not just a short domain investor, I am the jack of all trades .com investor,

I am seeing strong prices for all decent domain names, if the market was spiraling this simply would not be happening

 

[snoop]

If LLL.com stays strong, then quality LLLL.com must stay strong, infact all domain names that are .com and high quality must stay strong, as there is a pattern between them, quality domain names are an interrelated investment

Isn't it apparent that this is not what is happening? , lll.com has stayed relatively strong whilst llll.com has been tanking, high quality keyword domains have been falling aswell (but not to the same degree has 4 letter). The lll.com's are perhaps the only category of domains that have continued to rise in recent months.

 

[raredn.com]

Isn't it apparent that this is not what is happening? , lll.com has stayed relatively strong whilst llll.com has been tanking, high quality keyword domains have been falling aswell (but not to the same degree has 4 letter). The lll.com's are perhaps the only category of domains that have continued to rise in recent months.

I didn't say, they have 'not' had any fall in price, I mean the price is still strong for 'quality variety' .com domain names for a supposed fallen market. Also the names I have invested in personally remain largely unaffected

 

[Shasta]

The prices seem to be stabilizing right now. I'm not sure how fast LLLL.coms will rise as there is no historical basis. I only know that historically, most short domain prices have continued to rise. For example, in July of 2005 the worst NNL.coms were going for $30 which is similar to the worst LLLL.coms today. By July of 2006 they were at $65, July of 2007 $150 and by April of this year they were starting at $225. Anyway you look at them, those who held on were the big winners as the price increase was greater than the registration fee.

......supposed fallen market. Also the names I have invested in personally remain largely unaffected

Zesty Domains seems to agree with you that prices continue to rise...
January 08 vs April 08
LLN$215...........LLN$245
LNN$185...........LNN$215
LNL$175...........LNL$200
NLL$175...........NLL$200
NNL$200...........NNL$225
NLN$170...........NLN$200
L-L$2000...........L-L$2450
N-N$1000...........N-N$1300
L-N$600...........L-N$650

The lll.com's are perhaps the only category of domains that have continued to rise in recent months.

Seems to me that despite the drop "in recent months" from 800% returns on the worst LLLL.coms to the current 300% returns, LLLL.com investor's are still the big winner's this year as LLL.coms only jumped by about 20%. Those whom bought $7 names in October, are now selling them for $30. Further, since more people can afford LLLL.coms, I believe that they will probably rise at a greater percentage rate than the LLL.coms for quite a few years.

 

[-REECE-]

I also believe they'll rise quicker in value than LLL.coms for many years to come.

For LLL.coms to increase 30% per year, it would take under 12 years before they hit $230,000 per. That's preposterous to even consider imho.

Consider LLLL.coms over the same 12 year timeframe, assuming a minimum wholesale of $25 today. At 30% per year, that amounts to $582 per, or about equal to today's CCC.com prices (eg. $200s) factoring in real inflation.

I believe that they will probably rise at a greater percentage rate than the LLL.coms for quite a few years.

 

[bmugford]

LLLL.com are more in the price range of the average company. Let's say you are a small company called "QYZ" for example. Is that person more likely going to try to acquire "QYZ.com" for close to $10K or why not go after something like QYZO.com (QYZ Online), QYZC.com (QYZ Company/Corporation) for about 1/100th of the price.

I think LLL.com will still go up, but I don't think there is any debate the % gain will be slower than the LLLL.com market since the price range for LLLL.com is in most end users ballpark.

Brad

I also believe they'll rise quicker in value than LLL.coms for many years to come.

For LLL.coms to increase 30% per year, it would take under 12 years before they hit $230,000 per. That's preposterous to even consider imho.

Consider LLLL.coms over the same 12 year timeframe, assuming a minimum wholesale of $25 today. At 30% per year, that amounts to $582 per, or about equal to today's CCC.com prices (eg. $200s) factoring in real inflation.