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NO MORE 4 LETTER DOMAIN AVAILABLE TO REGISTER!
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Since early 2005, I have been investing/trading with 4 letter domain names. I started this thread due to the large variation in opinions on how many four letter domains there are available. When I started, I heard a range on viewpoints ranging from 200,000 down to nothing. What I learned that most people did not know how many were available.

Sources of Error for the estimates in number of available 4 letter domains include:

Traffic Testers: These are people who buy thousands of domains at a time to see if the domains are being visited and only keep the small percentage of domains that have regular visitors and cancel their orders for the domains that don't have a regular flow of visitors.

Inefficient ways of making estimates: There are over 450 thousand possible 4-Letter domains. There are short cuts that people can take in estimating the number that been registered that don't include all domains. One short cut that is often taken is for somebody to search through a list of previously available 4 letter names that they purchased (or got for free) and assume that all the names that are not on that list are registered.

People quoting old information:The variation in the number available changes all the time. Estimates that are months old are very different than up to date estimates.

People manipulating information for a sale:It definately is true that incorrect information on the available number of 4-letter domains can intensionally be manipulated to sell 4-letter domains at a higher price. Typically the lack of supply tends to motivate people to pay higher prices.

As a 4-letter domain trader, I believe that the information of how many 4-letter domains there are is extremely valuable for two main reasons. Firstly, my pricing of my names is subject to the amount of work it requires for customer to find for similar name. Secondly, if I want to increase my stock of 4-letter names than the information of how many there are at reg fee prices is essential.

I decided to update this thread when the number of available 4-letter domains dropped to the following levels:
22% Remaining - 25th January 2006
19% Remaining - 31st March 2006
16% Remaining - 29th June 2006
13% Remaining - 1st August 2006
10% Remaining - 15th February 2007 (crossed without traffic testing early April)
9% Remaining - 26th February 2007 (crossed without traffic testing early May)
8% Remaining - 2nd March 2007 (crossed without traffic testing in June)
7% Remaining - 21st March 2007 (crossed without traffic testing early July)
6% Remaining - 3rd July 2007(crossed without traffic testing some time in July)
5% Remaining - 1st August 2007(crossed without traffic testing August 11)
4% Remaining - 14th August 2007(crossed late August)
3% Remaining - 15th September 2007(crossed In September)
2% Remaining - 14th October 2007
1% Remaining - 31st October 2007
0% Remaining - 2nd November - COUNTDOWN COMPLETE!

Although, the number of available domains does sometime rise straight after it drops due to traffic testing and people dropping their domains, I don't consider it worth mentioning unless the rise is as significant as a 3% rise in the number of available domains.

Types of Four Letter Domains that have run out include:
- ALL OF THEM!

Since I started this thread important event about four letter domains that are worth mentioning happenned:

1: Late March/Early April 2006 there was a significant shift in the market for brandable (fake words) 4-letter domains and they started selling at significantly higher prices and the market for the names has been a lot more active ever since.

2: In July 2006, a namepros member 3par launched DYYO.com as a site committed to educating people about 4 letter domains. This is an excellent resource for those who are interested in 4 letter domain names.

3: In early February 2007. All the 4 letter domains starting with the letter A ran out.

4: wasistdas won QQNQ.COM, PCZV.COM & IQKE.COM for the competition for predicting when the 4 Letter domains would run out
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Initial Post
Less than 23% of the 4 letter domain names are unregistered. I thought I'd try to keep this thread updated every time I discover another 1% reduction. I am now routinely checking the percentage of unregisted 4 letter domains.
 
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Etab said:
I don't know why people are jumping after these. It's basically copying off the hype over 3 letter domains. Buying random 4 character domains is beyond me... personally I see no value in them. Personally I think the people registering random 4 character domains will be disappointed in the end.

Here's another good one from the first page of this thread... "Non-word 4 letter .coms are a graveyard for domain speculators."


I've been following this thread since day one. I had a discussion with my wife a little over a year ago about about possibly buying 500ish pronounceable and semi-pronounceable LLLL's. She said to go for it if I really thought the LLLL's would sell out and I could make a profit.

Posts like the above quotes gave me enough uncertainty that I only bought about 100. God am I kicking myself right now:(

This buy-out wasn't done by a single person/entity, therefore I believe it will stick.

/idiot Poker_bears
 
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If you bought 100, then you're in good shape. A hundred good names are better than no names, those are the people kicking themselves.
 
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KingDon said:
OK, I bought vxgw.com, I was surprised there were names with no Q's still left.

I just did a scan and found 562 LLLL.com remaining. After I helped myself to a few more, there are 117 w/o Q remaining:

ujpx.com ujwx.com uvkx.com uvxk.com uwxj.com uxfv.com uxjf.com vjxz.com vjzx.com vlxz.com vpzx.com vxfj.com vxfz.com vxgj.com vxgy.com vxhy.com vxhz.com vxjb.com vxjg.com vxjn.com vxjt.com vxjy.com vxjz.com vxkp.com vxkw.com vxrj.com vxtj.com vxtk.com vxwb.com vxwj.com vxwp.com vxzh.com vxzk.com vyxf.com vyxj.com vyxk.com vzxf.com vzxg.com vzxj.com vzxt.com xfzv.com xgvj.com xgvz.com xgwv.com xgzv.com xhvj.com xhvw.com xjgv.com xjhv.com xjvp.com xjvr.com xjvy.com xkfv.com xkvf.com xkvw.com xkvz.com xpvj.com xpvw.com xpvz.com xtzv.com xvbz.com xvfy.com xvgw.com xvgy.com xvjg.com xvjy.com xvkz.com xvlk.com xvnj.com xvnw.com xvpw.com xvrz.com xvtj.com xvzd.com xvzh.com xvzk.com xvzl.com xvzt.com xvzw.com xwfv.com xwgv.com xwjv.com xwvg.com xwvh.com xwvj.com xwvk.com xzvd.com xzvj.com xzvp.com zjvx.com zmvj.com zpjv.com zpvj.com zpvx.com zrvj.com zvbx.com zvdw.com zvfr.com zvfy.com zvgj.com zvgx.com zvhw.com zvhx.com zvhy.com zvjh.com zvjk.com zvjm.com zvjw.com zvjx.com zvkw.com zvkx.com zvpk.com zvpw.com zvrw.com zvwj.com zvxh.com zvxj.com
 
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KingDon said:
If you bought 100, then you're in good shape. A hundred good names are better than no names, those are the people kicking themselves.


They still can buy Them on the aftermarket for low $XX before the value reach $XXX

The pattern is the same of LLL , just 26 times more offer but the demand is increasing faster then the offer worldwide.

What will be people writing in 2010 ? "oh...if Only..." "I wish...." " I could..."

AMEN. :hehe:
 
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I have the funds to reg a bunch more LLLL.coms but my feeling is I regged the ones that I wanted over 10 months ago. Do I really want the ones left now? Not really...I am going to look around and buy what I want in the drop auctions or in the aftermarket.
 
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Well said, italiandragon
 
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italiandragon said:
They still can buy Them on the aftermarket for low $XX before the value reach $XXX

The pattern is the same of LLL , just 26 times more offer but the demand is increasing faster then the offer worldwide.

What will be people writing in 2010 ? "oh...if Only..." "I wish...." " I could..."

AMEN. :hehe:

Somebody FINISH THEM OFF Already!!!
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I may have to call in "The Italian Boyz" to do it! :hehe:
 
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SDX said:
Somebody FINISH THEM OFF Already!!!
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I may have to call in "The Italian Boyz" to do it! :hehe:

May have to wait for the Europeans to wake up.
 
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I am pretty sure I just emptied my bank account, which doesn't take much, buying LLLL.com's.

Well as long as I make it back......
 
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I got into the market only a couple of months ago thanks to this thread. Your posts really inspired me to take a gamble. Well, a couple of weeks after making my first big purchase I made an ebay store. Now I'm working on a 4 letter informational website http://4ltr.org. Guess you could say I really got hooked. I'm already starting to feel the DYYO withdrawals coming on.
 
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I did my part

I just took xvnj off that list xvNewJersey in my book and hopefully something in my bank account in a few years. I'm in the low double digits with these and yes I'm kicking myself for not getting more earlier this year. I was using dyyo earlier this year to grap ones that had PR.
 
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Just a few domains removed from the final list

I just grabbed about 10 more. After google searching, I am finding previous traffic & acronyms. Since we're getting to the bottom of the barrel, I'll have to make new friends with people in other areas of the world for translation. ;)

To shed light on a different subject.. My whois results 99.99% of the time show these final domains as taken / registered before.

If these low quality domains were registered before, what happened? They should have been gone like 3 years ago along with all the better & good ones!

I know when they're all gone, this will result as a nice investment. Look at the LLL.com's & now L-L-L.com's. Just 2 weeks ago L-L-L's were available like these LLLL.com's are running out. Maybe it's the economy.. especially in the USA.
 
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The economy in the US is starting a downturn. Look at the US stock market today... People are starting the realize that the sub-prime events were not just the one industry but the entire economy is struggling. I believe all the LLLL.coms were regged in 2000. I may be wrong on that though.
 
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Was thinking hard about finishing them off but decided to register only 20 non q ones instead. Have over 100 now and plan to add more from the after markets :).
 
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geb9696 said:
The economy in the US is starting a downturn. Look at the US stock market today... People are starting the realize that the sub-prime events were not just the one industry but the entire economy is struggling. I believe all the LLLL.coms were regged in 2000. I may be wrong on that though.


It has already been discussed many times: the precedent full buyout of LLLL.com was due to a big unique massive company that then dropped all names in one shot. Something different has been happenning lately and times are very changed. In 2000 who would have bought 3z7.com for $130 ? I sold it here to another domainer. Think about it.
 
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The non-q's are going fast! Out of the 390,625 total, only 92 are left unregistered:

ujwx.com uvkx.com uvxk.com uwxj.com uxfv.com uxjf.com vjxz.com vjzx.com vpzx.com vxfj.com vxfz.com vxgy.com vxhy.com vxhz.com vxjg.com vxjn.com vxjt.com vxjy.com vxjz.com vxkp.com vxrj.com vxtj.com vxtk.com vxwb.com vxwj.com vxwp.com vxzh.com vxzk.com vyxf.com vyxj.com vyxk.com vzxf.com vzxg.com xfzv.com xgvj.com xgvz.com xgwv.com xgzv.com xhvj.com xhvw.com xjgv.com xjhv.com xjvp.com xjvr.com xjvy.com xkvf.com xkvw.com xpvw.com xvbz.com xvfy.com xvgw.com xvgy.com xvjg.com xvjy.com xvkz.com xvlk.com xvpw.com xvrz.com xvtj.com xvzh.com xvzk.com xvzl.com xvzt.com xvzw.com xwfv.com xwjv.com xwvg.com xwvh.com xwvj.com xwvk.com xzvj.com xzvp.com zjvx.com zmvj.com zpjv.com zpvj.com zpvx.com zrvj.com zvhx.com zvjh.com zvjk.com zvjm.com zvjw.com zvjx.com zvkw.com zvkx.com zvpk.com zvpw.com zvrw.com zvwj.com zvxh.com zvxj.com
 
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I believe that domain values will appreciate over time but my comment was in response to Expron's post. I am a LLLL.com believer but I can not bring myself to reg any more right now. I am going to focus on the higher quality ones.
 
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ideesweb said:
The VCVC's are gone.

Are Their Any more VCVC's?

The only chance at getting a VCVC, CVCV, VCCV, VVCC, or CCVV is if it drops. The only ones left aren't that great. Your only chance at catching one of those if it you get it when it drops. Well, the countdown is getting better! It's getting closer and closer to all be gone!
 
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A Really Stupid Question For The Pro's At Catching Domains...

What Time Does A Domain Drop? I've heard 2PM Eastern Time? Anyone By CST? To Give Solid Advice? A PM Or Some Advice Is Appreciated.
 
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Cronus said:
The non-q's are going fast! Out of the 390,625 total, only 92 are left unregistered:

ujwx.com uvkx.com uvxk.com uwxj.com uxfv.com uxjf.com vjxz.com vjzx.com vpzx.com vxfj.com vxfz.com vxgy.com vxhy.com vxhz.com vxjg.com vxjn.com vxjt.com vxjy.com vxjz.com vxkp.com vxrj.com vxtj.com vxtk.com vxwb.com vxwj.com vxwp.com vxzh.com vxzk.com vyxf.com vyxj.com vyxk.com vzxf.com vzxg.com xfzv.com xgvj.com xgvz.com xgwv.com xgzv.com xhvj.com xhvw.com xjgv.com xjhv.com xjvp.com xjvr.com xjvy.com xkvf.com xkvw.com xpvw.com xvbz.com xvfy.com xvgw.com xvgy.com xvjg.com xvjy.com xvkz.com xvlk.com xvpw.com xvrz.com xvtj.com xvzh.com xvzk.com xvzl.com xvzt.com xvzw.com xwfv.com xwjv.com xwvg.com xwvh.com xwvj.com xwvk.com xzvj.com xzvp.com zjvx.com zmvj.com zpjv.com zpvj.com zpvx.com zrvj.com zvhx.com zvjh.com zvjk.com zvjm.com zvjw.com zvjx.com zvkw.com zvkx.com zvpk.com zvpw.com zvrw.com zvwj.com zvxh.com zvxj.com

grabbed xvfy.com can be easily branded as cross verify. thanks for the list repped.
 
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