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NO MORE 4 LETTER DOMAIN AVAILABLE TO REGISTER!
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Since early 2005, I have been investing/trading with 4 letter domain names. I started this thread due to the large variation in opinions on how many four letter domains there are available. When I started, I heard a range on viewpoints ranging from 200,000 down to nothing. What I learned that most people did not know how many were available.

Sources of Error for the estimates in number of available 4 letter domains include:

Traffic Testers: These are people who buy thousands of domains at a time to see if the domains are being visited and only keep the small percentage of domains that have regular visitors and cancel their orders for the domains that don't have a regular flow of visitors.

Inefficient ways of making estimates: There are over 450 thousand possible 4-Letter domains. There are short cuts that people can take in estimating the number that been registered that don't include all domains. One short cut that is often taken is for somebody to search through a list of previously available 4 letter names that they purchased (or got for free) and assume that all the names that are not on that list are registered.

People quoting old information:The variation in the number available changes all the time. Estimates that are months old are very different than up to date estimates.

People manipulating information for a sale:It definately is true that incorrect information on the available number of 4-letter domains can intensionally be manipulated to sell 4-letter domains at a higher price. Typically the lack of supply tends to motivate people to pay higher prices.

As a 4-letter domain trader, I believe that the information of how many 4-letter domains there are is extremely valuable for two main reasons. Firstly, my pricing of my names is subject to the amount of work it requires for customer to find for similar name. Secondly, if I want to increase my stock of 4-letter names than the information of how many there are at reg fee prices is essential.

I decided to update this thread when the number of available 4-letter domains dropped to the following levels:
22% Remaining - 25th January 2006
19% Remaining - 31st March 2006
16% Remaining - 29th June 2006
13% Remaining - 1st August 2006
10% Remaining - 15th February 2007 (crossed without traffic testing early April)
9% Remaining - 26th February 2007 (crossed without traffic testing early May)
8% Remaining - 2nd March 2007 (crossed without traffic testing in June)
7% Remaining - 21st March 2007 (crossed without traffic testing early July)
6% Remaining - 3rd July 2007(crossed without traffic testing some time in July)
5% Remaining - 1st August 2007(crossed without traffic testing August 11)
4% Remaining - 14th August 2007(crossed late August)
3% Remaining - 15th September 2007(crossed In September)
2% Remaining - 14th October 2007
1% Remaining - 31st October 2007
0% Remaining - 2nd November - COUNTDOWN COMPLETE!

Although, the number of available domains does sometime rise straight after it drops due to traffic testing and people dropping their domains, I don't consider it worth mentioning unless the rise is as significant as a 3% rise in the number of available domains.

Types of Four Letter Domains that have run out include:
- ALL OF THEM!

Since I started this thread important event about four letter domains that are worth mentioning happenned:

1: Late March/Early April 2006 there was a significant shift in the market for brandable (fake words) 4-letter domains and they started selling at significantly higher prices and the market for the names has been a lot more active ever since.

2: In July 2006, a namepros member 3par launched DYYO.com as a site committed to educating people about 4 letter domains. This is an excellent resource for those who are interested in 4 letter domain names.

3: In early February 2007. All the 4 letter domains starting with the letter A ran out.

4: wasistdas won QQNQ.COM, PCZV.COM & IQKE.COM for the competition for predicting when the 4 Letter domains would run out
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Less than 23% of the 4 letter domain names are unregistered. I thought I'd try to keep this thread updated every time I discover another 1% reduction. I am now routinely checking the percentage of unregisted 4 letter domains.
 
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How do you list auction on sedo? They rejected my 3 char domain.
 
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You can list domains at auction only when you receive an offer for a domain. You have the option to accept it, reject it or send it to the auction.

Otherwise if you domain is really premium (worth $xx.xxx) you can arrange an auction with them.
 
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wow 6k left..really anticipating forall the LLLL's to be fully registered..
 
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Hi,

Today's LLLL.com mega drop list will be published at 14:10 BST (35 minutes).

Please click my signature from then to view it for free.

Rep and NP$ always appreciated but not essential. Donate at least NP$50 and I'll send tomorrow's main list by PM at least 30 minutes before publishing :)

Enjoy the list,
Matt.
 
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WORDSWORTH said:
Hi,

Today's LLLL.com mega drop list will be published at 14:10 BST (35 minutes).

Please click my signature from then to view it for free.

Rep and NP$ always appreciated but not essential. Donate at least NP$50 and I'll send tomorrow's main list by PM at least 30 minutes before publishing :)

Enjoy the list,
Matt.

snared 1 but somebody has already been eating the porridge...some nice ones though today....
 
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i have some LLLL.com most with one bad letter

But i am surprising i am getting lot unique hits for some LLLL.coms (around 100 per day per LLLL.com)and nice clicks rate also

i wonder how it is..i never advertised any of my LLLL.coms..

who is visiting these domains....?? :hehe:

i think many of you experiencing some good traffic for your LLLL.coms..

feed backs welcome !!
 
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Thanks Wordsworth :)

I can't get my list to load and the confirmation email is sent to another computer.. :'( I regged 9 of them.
 
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Thanks for the list WORDSWORTH. Your effort is always greatly appreciated.
 
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Thanks to matt. I want to reg three of them, but I am too late.

I missed 5 domains because today's name.com problem. :(

www.name.com is ok now, but those five LLLL.coms are all registered :(
 
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what are English letters NOT used by Chinese language? it seems "v" is not there..rite? any other letters?

or other letters by other countries?

Thx
 
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Thanks for all comments :)

I have just updated the list. Only two names now remain D-:

Matt.
 
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clickcents said:
what are English letters NOT used by Chinese language? it seems "v" is not there..rite? any other letters?

or other letters by other countries?

Thx

Chinese PinYin use all 26 English letters, but never use v and u as the first letter, so the LLLL.coms with u & v have very little value to Chinese.
 
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Thanks for the info DotCN.

Looking at some TDNam sales, I am very surprised to see the growth of LLLL.com 's. Please understand that I am a rather pessimistic person and always see the negative everywhere. But I see the rapid growth of LLLL prices. Domains that some weeks ago were available now go for low $xx on tdnam (which is not as a good marketplace as SN or sedo)

Some recent auctions that ended or are close to end:

XIIY.com - $41 (two bad letters)
SPCZ.com - $20 (3 premiums + 1 z)
HCYN.com - $15
FUXH.com - $15
TDVR.com - $30
UUDL.com - $60 (well I have UULG.com so it must be the same category I guess)
SWNK.com - $20 (and 1 day remaining)

Add to these prices $8 registration cost for 1 year, and you will get the whole picture of how much are LLLL.com 's in one of the weakest marketplaces (from a selling pov).

Will the imminent buyout increase even more these prices?
 
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The LLLL.com mega drop list will be updated at 19:00 BST (30 minutes). A small number of new names have dropped :)

Please click my signature from then to view the new names for free.

The results of yet another scan will be in by 21:00 - 21:30. If any more names are found, I will publish those too.

Matt.
 
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alexsimon said:
Will the imminent buyout increase even more these prices?
yes, be sure of that!!! :)
 
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Hm sorry for a newbie question.. but would it be a good idea to sell some of my LLLL's on tdnam? How do you start the auction there


~MG
 
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More on Chinese Pin Yin.

I think vowels would be less desirable in Chinese as not many words start with vowels in Chinese. For example, more Chinese words start with W,X,Y,Z than with A,E,I,O,U. However, that doesn't mean vowels won't be desirable for Chinese companies. For example, YZEG might mean Yang Zhou Energy Group [I am making this up] where YZ stands for Yang Zhou, a city of 5 million people, combined with english, "Energy Group" to form the company name.

Also, Chinese words (which often have meaning in bound form; that is, 2 words together) often don't transliterate well, explaining the Chinese's use of LLLL domain names. This goes for company names or people names. So alot of people would just call themselves TK, YC, LC, etc. to shorten their names (if they don't take a completely foreign name like John, etc.).

If to target the Chinese market, I would go for LLLL domain names with consonants for the first two LL and take vowels only if they appear in the last two LLs.
 
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alexsimon said:
Thanks for the info DotCN.

Looking at some TDNam sales, I am very surprised to see the growth of LLLL.com 's. Please understand that I am a rather pessimistic person and always see the negative everywhere. But I see the rapid growth of LLLL prices. Domains that some weeks ago were available now go for low $xx on tdnam (which is not as a good marketplace as SN or sedo)

Some recent auctions that ended or are close to end:

XIIY.com - $41 (two bad letters)
SPCZ.com - $20 (3 premiums + 1 z)
HCYN.com - $15
FUXH.com - $15
TDVR.com - $30
UUDL.com - $60 (well I have UULG.com so it must be the same category I guess)
SWNK.com - $20 (and 1 day remaining)

Add to these prices $8 registration cost for 1 year, and you will get the whole picture of how much are LLLL.com 's in one of the weakest marketplaces (from a selling pov).

Will the imminent buyout increase even more these prices?

Thanks to all for the updates!
spcz.com---$61 (not $20)
I'm pretty sure---because I got outbid :'(

I purchased xiiy.com-- 2 bad letters, but I love Double letters---> especially vowels and premiums in the middle.

Nsane
CaseyO'
 
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Nsane Domain said:
I purchased xiiy.com-- 2 bad letters, but I love Double letters---> especially vowels and premiums in the middle.
Nsane
CaseyO'

xiiy.com is a 'good-looking' name worth having and brandable.
 
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