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NO MORE 4 LETTER DOMAIN AVAILABLE TO REGISTER!
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Since early 2005, I have been investing/trading with 4 letter domain names. I started this thread due to the large variation in opinions on how many four letter domains there are available. When I started, I heard a range on viewpoints ranging from 200,000 down to nothing. What I learned that most people did not know how many were available.

Sources of Error for the estimates in number of available 4 letter domains include:

Traffic Testers: These are people who buy thousands of domains at a time to see if the domains are being visited and only keep the small percentage of domains that have regular visitors and cancel their orders for the domains that don't have a regular flow of visitors.

Inefficient ways of making estimates: There are over 450 thousand possible 4-Letter domains. There are short cuts that people can take in estimating the number that been registered that don't include all domains. One short cut that is often taken is for somebody to search through a list of previously available 4 letter names that they purchased (or got for free) and assume that all the names that are not on that list are registered.

People quoting old information:The variation in the number available changes all the time. Estimates that are months old are very different than up to date estimates.

People manipulating information for a sale:It definately is true that incorrect information on the available number of 4-letter domains can intensionally be manipulated to sell 4-letter domains at a higher price. Typically the lack of supply tends to motivate people to pay higher prices.

As a 4-letter domain trader, I believe that the information of how many 4-letter domains there are is extremely valuable for two main reasons. Firstly, my pricing of my names is subject to the amount of work it requires for customer to find for similar name. Secondly, if I want to increase my stock of 4-letter names than the information of how many there are at reg fee prices is essential.

I decided to update this thread when the number of available 4-letter domains dropped to the following levels:
22% Remaining - 25th January 2006
19% Remaining - 31st March 2006
16% Remaining - 29th June 2006
13% Remaining - 1st August 2006
10% Remaining - 15th February 2007 (crossed without traffic testing early April)
9% Remaining - 26th February 2007 (crossed without traffic testing early May)
8% Remaining - 2nd March 2007 (crossed without traffic testing in June)
7% Remaining - 21st March 2007 (crossed without traffic testing early July)
6% Remaining - 3rd July 2007(crossed without traffic testing some time in July)
5% Remaining - 1st August 2007(crossed without traffic testing August 11)
4% Remaining - 14th August 2007(crossed late August)
3% Remaining - 15th September 2007(crossed In September)
2% Remaining - 14th October 2007
1% Remaining - 31st October 2007
0% Remaining - 2nd November - COUNTDOWN COMPLETE!

Although, the number of available domains does sometime rise straight after it drops due to traffic testing and people dropping their domains, I don't consider it worth mentioning unless the rise is as significant as a 3% rise in the number of available domains.

Types of Four Letter Domains that have run out include:
- ALL OF THEM!

Since I started this thread important event about four letter domains that are worth mentioning happenned:

1: Late March/Early April 2006 there was a significant shift in the market for brandable (fake words) 4-letter domains and they started selling at significantly higher prices and the market for the names has been a lot more active ever since.

2: In July 2006, a namepros member 3par launched DYYO.com as a site committed to educating people about 4 letter domains. This is an excellent resource for those who are interested in 4 letter domain names.

3: In early February 2007. All the 4 letter domains starting with the letter A ran out.

4: wasistdas won QQNQ.COM, PCZV.COM & IQKE.COM for the competition for predicting when the 4 Letter domains would run out
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Initial Post
Less than 23% of the 4 letter domain names are unregistered. I thought I'd try to keep this thread updated every time I discover another 1% reduction. I am now routinely checking the percentage of unregisted 4 letter domains.
 
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AfternicAfternic
There are still some good ones left (even if they occur rarer).

I think that three premium letters + q is a safe bet. I will reg some of those.
 
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You guys better hurry up before Adam Dicker buys out the remainder...like he did last year with NNNN.COM's! ;)
 
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SDX said:
You guys better hurry up before Adam Dicker buys out the remainder...like he did last year with NNNN.COM's! ;)

Those were sold out before then, but he did just recently wipe out the LLL.ca (which was no small/cheap task!) :) Let the fun begin :wave:
 
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Just regged HVXR.com I really like it for some reason. Looks we will probably break 9k today. Already under 2.5k names left without the letter q.
 
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Hi,

Today's LLLL.com mega drop list will be published within the hour :)

Preliminary results indicate lots of new names. Get ready for another snag fest :hehe:

Please click my signature to view it for FREE.

Best of luck regging,
Matt.
 
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Latest list is now live :)

NP$ and rep appreciated if you take any. Please post your grabs here so I can update the list.

Please click my signature to view.

Many thanks,
Matt.
 
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Grabbed a few.

vgvj.com
vhjg.com
vxav.com
zmlu.com

We shall see how they do. Thanks for the list. Tried to rep but too recent. NP$ on their way!
 
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For those who like 4 letter .coms starting with "i" the following appear to still be available without "q":

IJXF
IJXG
IJXH
IJXV
IJZG
IJZV
IKVX
IKXJ
IKXW
IWJZ
IXFV
IXGJ
IXJZ
IXMJ
IXVF
IXVZ

Andrea
 
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I'm not trying to burst the LLLL bubble here, but I'm wondering...

Why are so many people busy registering the four letter .com domains with undesirable letters, when there are still much better ones to bought in the $20 (or so) price range? Just look in the sales forums for cheap LLLL.coms. Here's a recent thread (I purchased one name): http://www.namepros.com/domains-for-sale-fixed-price/384746-4-letter-and-other-coms.html

It seems to me that if the names containing Q, X, J, etc... rise in value once the LLLL.coms are gone, then the better ones will rise much more sharply, yielding a greater profit when they're sold...
 
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MrSpartan said:
Grabbed a few.

vgvj.com
vhjg.com
vxav.com
zmlu.com

We shall see how they do. Thanks for the list. Tried to rep but too recent. NP$ on their way!
Thanks for your post and for the NP$. They are very much appreciated :)

Many of the domains in the list have now been snagged. List updated at 20:10 BST to reflect this.

Still a few left...

Matt.
 
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yandig said:
I'm not trying to burst the LLLL bubble here, but I'm wondering...

Why are so many people busy registering the four letter .com domains with undesirable letters, when there are still much better ones to bought in the $20 (or so) price range? Just look in the sales forums for cheap LLLL.coms. Here's a recent thread (I purchased one name): http://www.namepros.com/domains-for-sale-fixed-price/384746-4-letter-and-other-coms.html

It seems to me that if the names containing Q, X, J, etc... rise in value once the LLLL.coms are gone, then the better ones will rise much more sharply, yielding a greater profit when they're sold...

People are probably thinking that they can hand reg at least 3 for the price of 1 resale so even if the "better ones" appreciate they will appreciate less than threefold.
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BTW, just grabbed these THREE (with those hopes :lol:):
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IXMJ.COM
IXVZ.COM
IKXJ.COM

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What can say, I have an I4.com for "i's"! :lol:

P.S. Rep added to Andrea! :tu:
 
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A total of 8768 domain names are found.

I picked up QIVQ.com today

F(12) vs H(25) war
 
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I took znqd.com just now.
znqd.cn is a chinese website.
 
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No point regging names of chinese .cn websites thinking that chinese would pay money for them.

As discussed before earlier in this thread, I mentioned that Chinese from China do not like paying for stuff when they can get it for free, that is their kind of lifestyle.

If they were to buy a domain, they wont pay xxx just for LLLL.com, they would simply pay $8 and get a LLLLL.com or a LLLL.net

I am a chinese myself, not from china though but I know their culture. So my advice is dont reg names just because the .net or .cn are chinese websites. Cos your dream of having a chinese end-user looking to buy your .com will never happen 99% of the time.
 
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Most of my recent LLLL.com reg's are chinese drops. They don't seem that interested in holding on to 4 letter domain names.

The letter Q might have something to do with why they were reg'd in China in the first place.
 
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Thanks for your advice. Basically you are right.

Chinese companies are using many LLLL.***( .com, .cn, .com.cn), because many chinese companies have a four word name for short. If LLLL.cn, LLLL.com.cn and LLLL.net are all used by different Chinese companies, which means this 4 letter combination is very popular in China. Although the owners of LLLL.*** might not buy it, the other company which don't have a domain might buy it in the future. So I reg it.

Some Chinese do buy 4-letter domains. Acturally I have sold many LLLL.CNs and LLLL.COM.CNs to chinese companies in the past few months, and yesterday I sold jxlm.com to a Chinese company.

jarmas said:
No point regging names of chinese .cn websites thinking that chinese would pay money for them.

As discussed before earlier in this thread, I mentioned that Chinese from China do not like paying for stuff when they can get it for free, that is their kind of lifestyle.

If they were to buy a domain, they wont pay xxx just for LLLL.com, they would simply pay $8 and get a LLLLL.com or a LLLL.net

I am a chinese myself, not from china though but I know their culture. So my advice is dont reg names just because the .net or .cn are chinese websites. Cos your dream of having a chinese end-user looking to buy your .com will never happen 99% of the time.
 
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Why don't you guys just buy from ebay? There's are over 200 LLLL.com under $10 w/o any bid and many of them are sold for less than $5.

Here's are some pretty good LLLL.com sold recently on Ebay:

VWYG $7.16
DVJV $7.50
YKVE $7.80
VWSY $9.97
 
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DotCn I observed and noticed that chinese from China like LLLL.*** I see a lot of well established chinese sites on LLLL.*** but I never think they would pay a lot for them if they were to buy from domainers.

Is it ok to ask how much did you sell jxlm.com for?
 
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jarmas said:
DotCn I observed and noticed that chinese from China like LLLL.*** I see a lot of well established chinese sites on LLLL.*** but I never think they would pay a lot for them if they were to buy from domainers.

Is it ok to ask how much did you sell jxlm.com for?

2,500 RMB (about 330 USD)
It is not expensive, but it's enough for me to take more LLLL.coms. :)
And I will sold another LLLL.com.cn to another chinese company in the next few days. The price is 1,800 RMB. And I have sold many other LLLL domains such as nltd.com.cn, mron.cn, etc. to other chinese companies.
 
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