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NO MORE 4 LETTER DOMAIN AVAILABLE TO REGISTER!
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Since early 2005, I have been investing/trading with 4 letter domain names. I started this thread due to the large variation in opinions on how many four letter domains there are available. When I started, I heard a range on viewpoints ranging from 200,000 down to nothing. What I learned that most people did not know how many were available.

Sources of Error for the estimates in number of available 4 letter domains include:

Traffic Testers: These are people who buy thousands of domains at a time to see if the domains are being visited and only keep the small percentage of domains that have regular visitors and cancel their orders for the domains that don't have a regular flow of visitors.

Inefficient ways of making estimates: There are over 450 thousand possible 4-Letter domains. There are short cuts that people can take in estimating the number that been registered that don't include all domains. One short cut that is often taken is for somebody to search through a list of previously available 4 letter names that they purchased (or got for free) and assume that all the names that are not on that list are registered.

People quoting old information:The variation in the number available changes all the time. Estimates that are months old are very different than up to date estimates.

People manipulating information for a sale:It definately is true that incorrect information on the available number of 4-letter domains can intensionally be manipulated to sell 4-letter domains at a higher price. Typically the lack of supply tends to motivate people to pay higher prices.

As a 4-letter domain trader, I believe that the information of how many 4-letter domains there are is extremely valuable for two main reasons. Firstly, my pricing of my names is subject to the amount of work it requires for customer to find for similar name. Secondly, if I want to increase my stock of 4-letter names than the information of how many there are at reg fee prices is essential.

I decided to update this thread when the number of available 4-letter domains dropped to the following levels:
22% Remaining - 25th January 2006
19% Remaining - 31st March 2006
16% Remaining - 29th June 2006
13% Remaining - 1st August 2006
10% Remaining - 15th February 2007 (crossed without traffic testing early April)
9% Remaining - 26th February 2007 (crossed without traffic testing early May)
8% Remaining - 2nd March 2007 (crossed without traffic testing in June)
7% Remaining - 21st March 2007 (crossed without traffic testing early July)
6% Remaining - 3rd July 2007(crossed without traffic testing some time in July)
5% Remaining - 1st August 2007(crossed without traffic testing August 11)
4% Remaining - 14th August 2007(crossed late August)
3% Remaining - 15th September 2007(crossed In September)
2% Remaining - 14th October 2007
1% Remaining - 31st October 2007
0% Remaining - 2nd November - COUNTDOWN COMPLETE!

Although, the number of available domains does sometime rise straight after it drops due to traffic testing and people dropping their domains, I don't consider it worth mentioning unless the rise is as significant as a 3% rise in the number of available domains.

Types of Four Letter Domains that have run out include:
- ALL OF THEM!

Since I started this thread important event about four letter domains that are worth mentioning happenned:

1: Late March/Early April 2006 there was a significant shift in the market for brandable (fake words) 4-letter domains and they started selling at significantly higher prices and the market for the names has been a lot more active ever since.

2: In July 2006, a namepros member 3par launched DYYO.com as a site committed to educating people about 4 letter domains. This is an excellent resource for those who are interested in 4 letter domain names.

3: In early February 2007. All the 4 letter domains starting with the letter A ran out.

4: wasistdas won QQNQ.COM, PCZV.COM & IQKE.COM for the competition for predicting when the 4 Letter domains would run out
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Initial Post
Less than 23% of the 4 letter domain names are unregistered. I thought I'd try to keep this thread updated every time I discover another 1% reduction. I am now routinely checking the percentage of unregisted 4 letter domains.
 
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Travis said:
Premium IMO are domains such as Sedo, Hybu(Fonzie's), Buzz, Digg, etc.

Hmm, I wouldn't put Hybu in the same sentence as Buzz or Digg when it comes to LLLL.com quality. Regardless of development. You can spin tens of thousands of LLLL.com's into pronouncables ... Buzz is an actually word!
 
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MCDomains said:
Hmm, I wouldn't put Hybu in the same sentence as Buzz or Digg when it comes to LLLL.com quality. Regardless of development. You can spin tens of thousands of LLLL.com's into pronouncables ... Buzz is an actually word!


well said:)
 
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Different people have different opinion of what is premium. If $1m+ domain is premium, only buzz.com qualifies. sedo.com when sold as domain only commanded $35K(?).

But if somebody thinks $50+ is premium, then hybu.com might qualify.

I think $10+ is premiium, so all my domains are premium. :hehe:
 
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3par, you're insane! :)
 
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are you sure you can find a buyer for your $10+? +:)

Even so, you are just break even after one year.

3par said:
Different people have different opinion of what is premium. If $1m+ domain is premium, only buzz.com qualifies. sedo.com when sold as domain only commanded $35K(?).

But if somebody thinks $50+ is premium, then hybu.com might qualify.

I think $10+ is premiium, so all my domains are premium. :hehe:
 
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cache said:
are you sure you can find a buyer for your $10+? +:)

No, I am not finding buyers to sell them for $10. Typically I sell for 400 to 1000. And hopfully I can break even with that.
 
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I'm a mild buyer of LLLL.com domains, and I've been pleasantly surprised with the performance of all of them. Mine, are not what most would call premium and most contain an x or y or both, yet when parked they tend to be some of my most visited pages and offer some of the most consistent click through ratios of my portfolio.

So I'll say its certainly been a good investment so far, and regardless if all of the names get bought up or not I think there will be too many to fetch any price near what a LLL.com will get, but certainly will maintain levels above regfee regardless of how many are available.
 
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accentnepal said:
All LLLL.coms that do not include J,K,Q,U,V,W,X,Y,Z have been bought up for two years. I would include them as premium, along with dictionary and true pronouncable (which also have been gone at least that long).

I wish I would've read this before I scanned all 80,000+ combos with DRT. Oh well, it was fun to push the limits of DRT.

In your opinion, what constitutes as a "pronounceable llll.com"? Is the phrase being overused? I am trying to sell FYEV.com and PUZD.com, which I think are pronounceable.
 
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PUZD.com is definately pronounceable. FYEV.com is debateable.
How do you pronounce FYEV? (F-YEV or like "FIVE") It's not obvious.

The best ones are the CVCV.com domains (C-Consonant,V-Vowel) If you include Y as a vowel, then there a few left. I got ZEQY.com today. The reasoning behind why these are best is made by looking at the high sales LLLL.com as there is a significant percentage of the high sales LLLL.com that are CVCV.com
 
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IMHO true pronouncable is a name that you or someone else would gladly use to brand a business, without concern for acronyms. SEDO would be an example. (and I notice that it is CVCV). A lot of wishful thinking in this area! Two years ago I went through a long list of five letter names and found only one that I considered pronouncable.

So it is in the eye of the beholder.
(But anything that convinces people to buy the schwag still remaining is a good thing. The sooner it goes the sooner the value of all LLLL.coms begins to rise.)
 
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well what do you think of some of mines:

OZUE.COM ( OZ is another way to call Australia and UE can be abbreviation for Unione Europea which is European Union in Italian)

UKBU.COM ( UK BUsiness ?)

UAZE.COM

UIGU.COM

QBLU.COM (BLU means Blue in Italian....)

IFUV.COM

LYBD.COM

OZUD.COM ( OZ=AUSTRALIA UD= USA Dollar ?)
 
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italiandragon said:
well what do you think of some of mines:

OZUE.COM ( OZ is another way to call Australia and UE can be abbreviation for Unione Europea which is European Union in Italian)

UKBU.COM ( UK BUsiness ?)

UAZE.COM

UIGU.COM

QBLU.COM (BLU means Blue in Italian....)

IFUV.COM

LYBD.COM

OZUD.COM ( OZ=AUSTRALIA UD= USA Dollar ?)
Ukbu and Ozud are nice and will fetch some $$$ someday. The rest are iffy, but I'd hold on to them anyway.
 
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What about mine?

oxju.com
nujd.com (nudged)
urkl.com (my favorite)
vluf.com
julr.com (jewler)
 
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My two better LLLL.com's are siyk.com and Dolx.com. I'll probably hold out for some years.
 
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How about

PZat.com

and

FGun.com

??
 
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briman1970 said:
Ukbu and Ozud are nice and will fetch some $$$ someday. The rest are iffy, but I'd hold on to them anyway.

:hi:

Thanks for your opinion
 
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what kind of names have traffic? I assume there is no overture names available anymore. What kind of measurement do you use?

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I'm a mild buyer of LLLL.com domains, and I've been pleasantly surprised with the performance of all of them. Mine, are not what most would call premium and most contain an x or y or both, yet when parked they tend to be some of my most visited pages and offer some of the most consistent click through ratios of my portfolio.

So I'll say its certainly been a good investment so far, and regardless if all of the names get bought up or not I think there will be too many to fetch any price near what a LLL.com will get, but certainly will maintain levels above regfee regardless of how many are available.
 
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I wanted to start a "digg.com" like site, so I just checked all CVCC.com's where the last two CC's were the same letter. Only one available: qohh.com That doesn't sound quite as brandable as digg, so I'll pass.
 
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See here for latest LLLL.com availability results.
 
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