LLLL.com COUNTDOWN!

[VURG]

COUNTDOWN COMPLETE!

NO MORE 4 LETTER DOMAIN AVAILABLE TO REGISTER! ​

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Since early 2005, I have been investing/trading with 4 letter domain names. I started this thread due to the large variation in opinions on how many four letter domains there are available. When I started, I heard a range on viewpoints ranging from 200,000 down to nothing. What I learned that most people did not know how many were available.

Sources of Error for the estimates in number of available 4 letter domains include:

Traffic Testers: These are people who buy thousands of domains at a time to see if the domains are being visited and only keep the small percentage of domains that have regular visitors and cancel their orders for the domains that don't have a regular flow of visitors.

Inefficient ways of making estimates: There are over 450 thousand possible 4-Letter domains. There are short cuts that people can take in estimating the number that been registered that don't include all domains. One short cut that is often taken is for somebody to search through a list of previously available 4 letter names that they purchased (or got for free) and assume that all the names that are not on that list are registered.

People quoting old information:The variation in the number available changes all the time. Estimates that are months old are very different than up to date estimates.

People manipulating information for a sale:It definately is true that incorrect information on the available number of 4-letter domains can intensionally be manipulated to sell 4-letter domains at a higher price. Typically the lack of supply tends to motivate people to pay higher prices.

As a 4-letter domain trader, I believe that the information of how many 4-letter domains there are is extremely valuable for two main reasons. Firstly, my pricing of my names is subject to the amount of work it requires for customer to find for similar name. Secondly, if I want to increase my stock of 4-letter names than the information of how many there are at reg fee prices is essential.

I decided to update this thread when the number of available 4-letter domains dropped to the following levels:
22% Remaining - 25th January 2006
19% Remaining - 31st March 2006
16% Remaining - 29th June 2006
13% Remaining - 1st August 2006
10% Remaining - 15th February 2007 (crossed without traffic testing early April)
9% Remaining - 26th February 2007 (crossed without traffic testing early May)
8% Remaining - 2nd March 2007 (crossed without traffic testing in June)
7% Remaining - 21st March 2007 (crossed without traffic testing early July)
6% Remaining - 3rd July 2007(crossed without traffic testing some time in July)
5% Remaining - 1st August 2007(crossed without traffic testing August 11)
4% Remaining - 14th August 2007(crossed late August)
3% Remaining - 15th September 2007(crossed In September)
2% Remaining - 14th October 2007
1% Remaining - 31st October 2007
0% Remaining - 2nd November - COUNTDOWN COMPLETE!

Although, the number of available domains does sometime rise straight after it drops due to traffic testing and people dropping their domains, I don't consider it worth mentioning unless the rise is as significant as a 3% rise in the number of available domains.

Types of Four Letter Domains that have run out include:
- ALL OF THEM!

Since I started this thread important event about four letter domains that are worth mentioning happenned:

1: Late March/Early April 2006 there was a significant shift in the market for brandable (fake words) 4-letter domains and they started selling at significantly higher prices and the market for the names has been a lot more active ever since.

2: In July 2006, a namepros member 3par launched DYYO.com as a site committed to educating people about 4 letter domains. This is an excellent resource for those who are interested in 4 letter domain names.

3: In early February 2007. All the 4 letter domains starting with the letter A ran out.

4: wasistdas won QQNQ.COM, PCZV.COM & IQKE.COM for the competition for predicting when the 4 Letter domains would run out
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Initial Post
Less than 23% of the 4 letter domain names are unregistered. I thought I'd try to keep this thread updated every time I discover another 1% reduction. I am now routinely checking the percentage of unregisted 4 letter domains.

 

[sin]

There are 385k 4 letter domain names in the .com zone file. Around this time last year there were 335k. At this rate it will be another year or two before all 457k have been taken.

I think that the rate is still increasing so probably 7 months (I'd guess)

 

[Malaysia]

interesting..i shud changemy price of my pronouciable domains from 20 to $40 in sales thread..hahha..

 

[sin]

I'm selling my LLLL.com's for less then $15 But I still can't get any sales. ojdt.com vlil.com vfno.com jnaw.com, the letters arn't that bad why don't they sell

 

[fonzie_007]

I would expect at least another year and a half before any random LLLL.com is worth more than regfee for a wholesaler.

 

[GreenGambler]

I'm selling my LLLL.com's for less then $15 But I still can't get any sales. ojdt.com vlil.com vfno.com jnaw.com, the letters arn't that bad why don't they sell

It may not be the letters themselve but the combination of letters IMO aren't that great. However I was eyeing Vlil.com a few months back. That one has the best combination of letters out of the few you posted IMO.

 

[VURG]

I'm selling my LLLL.com's for less then $15 But I still can't get any sales. ojdt.com vlil.com vfno.com jnaw.com, the letters arn't that bad why don't they sell

I think that it's a matter of being in the right place at the right time with the right selling strategy. Some places are easier to sell than others. Some months are easier to sell than others. Some ways of selling are easier than others. Patience and persistance are key skills that a domainer needs to do well. Many people are happy to pay more than $15 for your names but they have to find you.

 

[Lasher]

You could try afternic bazaar, LLLL.coms seem to be fetching anywhere from 10-20 on there right now.

 

[mitok]

at dyyo.com is 60571 available LLLL.coms today, two day ago it was arround 70000 available LLLL.coms

 

[Charley]

People are just registering them . What value can one expect for it? That is the MILLION DOLLAR QUESTION.

 

[dnb8]

at dyyo.com is 60571 available LLLL.coms today, two day ago it was arround 70000 available LLLL.coms

wow 10000 in 2 days :shock: ??

and all droping llll.coms are regged again ...

 

[mitok]

but i think that few day ago the number of available was arround 59000, but maybe my mistake, maybe i just seen something else and connected with this

But i am sure that before two days at dyyo the number of available LLLL.coms was around 70000 and today is 60571

 

[Charley]

You could try afternic bazaar, LLLL.coms seem to be fetching anywhere from 10-20 on there right now

I've seen that a lot.

 

[gou]

People are just registering them . What value can one expect for it? That is the MILLION DOLLAR QUESTION.

Certainly not a million for an ordinary one.

 

[floatingworld]

but i think that few day ago the number of available was arround 59000, but maybe my mistake, maybe i just seen something else and connected with this

But i am sure that before two days at dyyo the number of available LLLL.coms was around 70000 and today is 60571

the extreme variation in numbers is probably a result of the taster registrars.... it is better to track the numbers remaining over a 3+month period to get a more accurate feel....the numbers are still gently declining..

 

[VURG]

Since there have been so many visits to this thread, I decided to update the first post and so that new curious visitors to the thread can get a short summary of what has been discussed and are less likely to repeat a question or comment that has already been made.

 

[briman1970]

now not so easy to find a name without u,k,x.y,z,j,w, in it

Here's three available without the above letters. Two are quite brandable IMHO and vgpf.com is pretty much a premium LLLL.

vpeo.com
vgpf.com
vtfe.com
vqix.com

NP$ please if you register!

 

[MCDomains]

Here's three available without the above letters. Two are quite brandable IMHO and vgpf.com is pretty much a premium LLLL.

vpeo.com
vgpf.com
vtfe.com
vqix.com

NP$ please if you register!

I don't think I'd be able to sell VGPF.com for more than $10 resale if I had it... that's how LLLL.com has been lately, unfortunately...

 

[Lasher]

It doesn't make sense to me that Y is so unpopular when there are so many things it can stand for, and can also be used to make domains pronouncable.

After all, the #1 site on the web in terms off traffic begins with a "Y" and Google just paid 1.65bn for an 18 month old web site that also begins with "Y".

 

[floatingworld]

Sometimes the trick is to move in to something which is currently unpopular if you see some potential. It is not always wise to follow the crowd. Y and V starters might be the next names to attract the locusts as the pool declines.

 

[VURG]

Just so people know I'm now running a competition where people can guess when the 4 letter domains will run out: VISIT_COMPETITION

The prize is 3 LLLL.com domains.