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NO MORE 4 LETTER DOMAIN AVAILABLE TO REGISTER!
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Since early 2005, I have been investing/trading with 4 letter domain names. I started this thread due to the large variation in opinions on how many four letter domains there are available. When I started, I heard a range on viewpoints ranging from 200,000 down to nothing. What I learned that most people did not know how many were available.

Sources of Error for the estimates in number of available 4 letter domains include:

Traffic Testers: These are people who buy thousands of domains at a time to see if the domains are being visited and only keep the small percentage of domains that have regular visitors and cancel their orders for the domains that don't have a regular flow of visitors.

Inefficient ways of making estimates: There are over 450 thousand possible 4-Letter domains. There are short cuts that people can take in estimating the number that been registered that don't include all domains. One short cut that is often taken is for somebody to search through a list of previously available 4 letter names that they purchased (or got for free) and assume that all the names that are not on that list are registered.

People quoting old information:The variation in the number available changes all the time. Estimates that are months old are very different than up to date estimates.

People manipulating information for a sale:It definately is true that incorrect information on the available number of 4-letter domains can intensionally be manipulated to sell 4-letter domains at a higher price. Typically the lack of supply tends to motivate people to pay higher prices.

As a 4-letter domain trader, I believe that the information of how many 4-letter domains there are is extremely valuable for two main reasons. Firstly, my pricing of my names is subject to the amount of work it requires for customer to find for similar name. Secondly, if I want to increase my stock of 4-letter names than the information of how many there are at reg fee prices is essential.

I decided to update this thread when the number of available 4-letter domains dropped to the following levels:
22% Remaining - 25th January 2006
19% Remaining - 31st March 2006
16% Remaining - 29th June 2006
13% Remaining - 1st August 2006
10% Remaining - 15th February 2007 (crossed without traffic testing early April)
9% Remaining - 26th February 2007 (crossed without traffic testing early May)
8% Remaining - 2nd March 2007 (crossed without traffic testing in June)
7% Remaining - 21st March 2007 (crossed without traffic testing early July)
6% Remaining - 3rd July 2007(crossed without traffic testing some time in July)
5% Remaining - 1st August 2007(crossed without traffic testing August 11)
4% Remaining - 14th August 2007(crossed late August)
3% Remaining - 15th September 2007(crossed In September)
2% Remaining - 14th October 2007
1% Remaining - 31st October 2007
0% Remaining - 2nd November - COUNTDOWN COMPLETE!

Although, the number of available domains does sometime rise straight after it drops due to traffic testing and people dropping their domains, I don't consider it worth mentioning unless the rise is as significant as a 3% rise in the number of available domains.

Types of Four Letter Domains that have run out include:
- ALL OF THEM!

Since I started this thread important event about four letter domains that are worth mentioning happenned:

1: Late March/Early April 2006 there was a significant shift in the market for brandable (fake words) 4-letter domains and they started selling at significantly higher prices and the market for the names has been a lot more active ever since.

2: In July 2006, a namepros member 3par launched DYYO.com as a site committed to educating people about 4 letter domains. This is an excellent resource for those who are interested in 4 letter domain names.

3: In early February 2007. All the 4 letter domains starting with the letter A ran out.

4: wasistdas won QQNQ.COM, PCZV.COM & IQKE.COM for the competition for predicting when the 4 Letter domains would run out
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Less than 23% of the 4 letter domain names are unregistered. I thought I'd try to keep this thread updated every time I discover another 1% reduction. I am now routinely checking the percentage of unregisted 4 letter domains.
 
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Really wish all you LLLL.com investors all the best :tu: No doubt in my mind they'll all be selling for $50+ (q,x,y,z included) a pop inside of 2 years.
 
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yandig said:
here are a couple of available LLLL.coms that someone might be interested in:

WYUX-com YEHV-com
WYUX is already gone :hehe:
 
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Today I hand reg'd:

CLMQ.com (climate questions)

IYMN.com ("I'm your man" etc!)

JOXW.com (jocks web/world)

Tickety tickety yah tock!
 
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Regged a couple of drops today,

gyiv . com, and hybp . com.

I kind of like the latter, can be High "BP something" or Hybrid "P something".

Cheers,
Voff
 
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doggyowner said:
Regged a couple of drops today,

gyiv . com, and hybp . com.

I kind of like the latter, can be High "BP something" or Hybrid "P something".

Cheers,
Voff

Yah Doggy I saw that hybp on dyyo and thought of "hybrid". Good luck to you and gyiv is good too --- phonetic for "give".
 
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:hi:

Just a quick update (figures based on those from dyyo.com)

Available LLLL.com's = 23,762 out of a possible 456,976 combinations (5.2%)

Available LLLL.com's without X, Q, Y or Z in the combination = 1,495 out of a possible 234,256 combinations (0.064%)

Found it interesting that the available names without the traditionally least favoured letters has now dropped well below the 1% mark. I don't think the remaining thousand odd will be around too long :imho:
 
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AussieDomainer said:
:hi:

Just a quick update (figures based on those from dyyo.com)

Available LLLL.com's = 23,762 out of a possible 456,976 combinations (5.2%)

Available LLLL.com's without X, Q, Y or Z in the combination = 1,495 out of a possible 234,256 combinations (0.064%)

Found it interesting that the available names without the traditionally least favoured letters has now dropped well below the 1% mark. I don't think the remaining thousand odd will be around too long :imho:

Take out K,J,V,W - for some reason the "second tier" of unpopular letters and my guess is you'll find 0 available names, or very very few containing a "u" which I debated on including in the list or not. Those you do find, reg immediately.
 
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Lasher said:
Take out K,J,V,W - for some reason the "second tier" of unpopular letters and my guess is you'll find 0 available names, or very very few containing a "u" which I debated on including in the list or not. Those you do find, reg immediately.

I hand reg'd IYMN last night so there may well still be a few lacking "undesirable" letters out there......
 
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Lasher said:
Take out K,J,V,W - for some reason the "second tier" of unpopular letters and my guess is you'll find 0 available names, or very very few containing a "u" which I debated on including in the list or not. Those you do find, reg immediately.

Yes, you are correct. There are exactly 0 remaining with none of those letters or the ones I stated.
 
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Those without those lettters that drop now get bids on Snap/Pool, which means there's a $60 "floor price" on them before any bidding even starts ..
 
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Lasher said:
Those without those lettters that drop now get bids on Snap/Pool, which means there's a $60 "floor price" on them before any bidding even starts ..

No wonder the drops on dyyo have been pretty hideous as of late :laugh:
 
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LOL

I'm so supposed to be saving up money for a move but everytime I see this frackin thread I go and reg a new name... I'm such an addict..



I just pick up : Rhzr.com, Looks like Razor to me:)
and : Qeph.com, Totally pronouncable.. Kef
 
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Today I hand reg'd SIZJ.com --- yah "sizzling jazz" a good music LLLL.com and the name of one of my horses! So maybe something more comes of him than being a hayburner!
 
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So what is our adjusted predication for the final day given only 5.2% remaining?
 
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cache said:
So what is our adjusted predication for the final day given only 5.2% remaining?



I want to say sometime January 08'. Give or take 3 months :)
 
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I think unless some big guy comes in, it will be another year out.
 
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cache said:
I think unless some big guy comes in, it will be another year out.

I think January next year would be closer to the mark than this time next year. But that's just :imho:

Only time will tell I suppose.
 
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As all LLLL.com's beginning with A have been all registered for a while now I am just wondering on people's opinions on current market value for ones that don't include q, x, z or y. Any feedback would be appreciated as I am looking at aquiring a few and just sold one so am wondering as to what is a good current price.

Regards
 
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I would say > $40 now for non-premium letters.

AussieDomainer said:
As all LLLL.com's beginning with A have been all registered for a while now I am just wondering on people's opinions on current market value for ones that don't include q, x, z or y. Any feedback would be appreciated as I am looking at aquiring a few and just sold one so am wondering as to what is a good current price.

Regards
 
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Lasher said:
Those without those lettters that drop now get bids on Snap/Pool, which means there's a $60 "floor price" on them before any bidding even starts ..

Yesterday IOEK.com was on Snap starting at $9.00 and I won it for $ 36.00. Seems a very good buy for me. :)
 
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I see a lot of poor quality ones dropping. I think it'll get down to 1% by the end of the year. Theres going to be some fluctuation though, because I think it'll be awhile before people are snapping up the worst quality domains...
 
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Hand reg'd HVYN.com today --- phonetic for "heaven" or "haven"

Hand reg'd YDVL.com today. Perfect for "you develop" as in an entrepreneur / idea site, etc., or "your devil" he he!

Good luck to everyone with the LLLL.com's !
 
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Waiting waiting waiting

Regd approx 200 of these damn LLLL's in the past month. It's freaking addictive stuff.

Hoping for a payday later, of course - the parking revenue sucks.

Realistically speaking, if the value of a LLL.com is around $ 8k on average, each LLLL.com should be worth $300 or so (8,000 / 26) Simple supply & demand. :imho:
 
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I hope you are right NoRest :P

I'm sure you're right that they'll be hearing onto xxx minimum soon enough, although it may take a couple of year's of reg fees to get to that point.
 
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NoRest said:
Regd approx 200 of these damn LLLL's in the past month. It's freaking addictive stuff.

Hoping for a payday later, of course - the parking revenue sucks.

Realistically speaking, if the value of a LLL.com is around $ 8k on average, each LLLL.com should be worth $300 or so (8,000 / 26) Simple supply & demand. :imho:

I know the feeling! I've registered a few hundred of them in the past few weeks. Am dead broke now. I'm not expecting LLLL.com values to reach the $100 mark anytime soon. Would expect to have to renew them for a couple of years before they get up to that mark but you never know.
 
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