.us LLL.us Going Down?

[gou]

I get the feeling that everyone is starting to use 3character.com as a guide for the maximum amount they should pay for LLL domains.
I don't see many people willing to pay even $100 for a decent LLL.us. Did one sale at $90 bring down the value of LLL.us?

 

[homebuyer]

Mine.

My only three letter one is ccw.us. I paid $374 for it at auction three weeks ago. Given that it actually stands for something, concealed carry weapon, and is not just three random letters, I think I got a good deal.

 

[Lasher]

Stubborn.

The USA is a patriotic nation, currently the world's largest economy and has its own country code. I refuse to believe there isn't untapped value there.

We "own" .COM, we consider it our TLD. As political tension over the global namespaces keeps coming back, how long can we expect to run them for? I wouldn't put my money on indefinitely.

When Bubba's interweb domain is under the control of an actionless politician in Switzerland, maybe he'll take another look at .US, then again, maybe not.

Fool or visionary? Somewhere in between I hope ... ask me in 10 years

 

[fonzie_007]

New results posted for the largest holders of LLL.us: http://www.namepros.com/dot-us/248003-largest-holders-of-lll-us-domains.html

Derek and Stuart, if you consolidate your email addresses, you will move up the standings quite a bit...

 

[malibumobile]

Can I play devils Advocate here?

- Domain prices are typically 2 things
1. Traffic
2. Brandability / End user

I see the .us market lacking in Traffic right now, but on the other hand I see a growing end user usage market coming up. I do think that the traffic factor is a big one though, and untill there is substantial traffic in the .us market, it's going to be depressed. Traffic will come with a strong end user usage, and thats the way all cctld markets are, the .us market just happens to be behind due to stronger .com awareness in the US.

 

[Lasher]

New results posted for the largest holders of LLL.us: http://www.namepros.com/dot-us/248003-largest-holders-of-lll-us-domains.html

Derek and Stuart, if you consolidate your email addresses, you will move up the standings quite a bit...

Definitely have some updating to do, just scanned my names and there's a handful still under the aardmud.org email address to, along with 15 or so that have the registrant email as the previous owner (but my email on all other contacts) ... oops.

 

[tzsxc]

I'll try to post a new list of the largest LLL.us holders in the next day or two. Thanks to jugusa for the NP$ donation.

The reason the data is laughable is because very few end users will ever buy off of afternic. Furthermore, as the registrant of AFL.us, there is no way I would ever let the domain go for the price it did in 2003. Just about any of the domains listed on afternic in the above post would go for over $1k to an end user.

Afternic data is of course not all the sales data. But it is a data point. Alot of LLL.us must be private sales then.

The main issue here is not whether LLL.us has value but whether it is over-valued. When LLL.us was selling for $150+ just a few months ago was crazy. That put it past LLL.info which is more established and has better long term viability IMO. The value it has settled now more accurately reflects current value. The fact that over 1k+ LLL.us was sold for $45 each is kind of sad. The revelation(obvious) that "qxu.us" will prob never have an end-user stateside is gonna kill value. my 2c.

 

[fonzie_007]

Would anyone have ever guessed QXU.com would have any value 5 years ago?

 

[malibumobile]

Fonzie - I would argue that you're comparing apples to oranges here though.

.com is the most generic extension, and a 3-letter .com is worth its value due to the rarity and broad potential usage. A .us domain is more limited in its end user base; it still shares the rarity factor, however. I think 3L.coms are worth their value because of the broad end user base, a 3L.us's value is significantly lower because that user based is much smaller.

Its all relative too...
Take a look at LLL.com values vs. LLL.net values. If you want a higher return, then a LLL.com is the best way to go vs. a LLL.net based on % of value increased over the last 5 years.

 

[Marck]

I got 12 LLL.us with poor letters for $65 each, but almost immediately I'm starting to think this was a mistake!

 

[Kate]

I got 12 LLL.us with poor letters for $65 each, but almost immediately I'm starting to think this was a mistake!

IMO it was a bargain, but bad letters are harder to sell. If you are prepared to hold them for some time it's fine.

 

[.X.]

All i can say is, If you have them, Hold onto em, They will rise in price again, Everything that goes down, Most usually comes back up, If i start seeing them in the 40 to 45 dollar range, I will be buying a few K of them.

 

[Lasher]

Keep in mind that even the poor letter combinations are getting at least one bid and appearing in Pool's daily list, which means someone is bidding at least $60 before them -- before any actual auction takes place.

At the risk of starting to sound like a stuck record on this point, remember that once the next few weeks have passed, LLL drops will be far far less common.

 

[steven22]

If you add up the top 25 holders of LLL.US in the next few weeks, you will see they are hed by a small number of people. Those names will not be dropping, supply will be very minimal, and where demand will go, no one knows for sure....However, I feel if you have a 5-10 year time frame and you are not looking for a quick flip, you will be compensated VERY well for QUALITY. In every bubble or correction, quality always bounces back.

If a LLL.us is selling for $300 now, in 7 years I think they will be selling for $3000 EASILY which is around 35% compounded annually...I can live with that and that is a conservative estimate as some LLL.us will sell for that now to some end users.

Good luck and Happy Domaining

 

[italiandragon]

If you add up the top 25 holders of LLL.US in the next few weeks, you will see they are hed by a small number of people. Those names will not be dropping, supply will be very minimal, and where demand will go, no one knows for sure....However, I feel if you have a 5-10 year time frame and you are not looking for a quick flip, you will be compensated VERY well for QUALITY. In every bubble or correction, quality always bounces back.

If a LLL.us is selling for $300 now, in 7 years I think they will be selling for $3000 EASILY which is around 35% compounded annually...I can live with that and that is a conservative estimate as some LLL.us will sell for that now to some end users.

Good luck and Happy Domaining

you have no guarantee that in 7 years we`ll be still using internet and domains as we do now.

 

[Kate]

If a LLL.us is selling for $300 now, in 7 years I think they will be selling for $3000 EASILY which is around 35% compounded annually...I can live with that and that is a conservative estimate as some LLL.us will sell for that now to some end users.

Just think that LLL .com were selling for $$$ just 3 years ago

you have no guarantee that in 7 years we`ll be still using internet and domains as we do now.

I see your point. In 100 years I could imagine that domains at least as we know them will be phased out.
In the meanwhile I feel pretty confident that domains will still be around for at least one or two decades. If I didn't I would start selling my names right now.
It's true that technology is evolving fast, still much of the underlying technology remains the same.
For example did you know that the email facility you use every day is based on RFC822, which was drafted in 1982 I believe ? BTW the DNS didn't even exist back then... the Internet was known as Arpanet. Those were the days...

It's clear that domain usage will continue to soar for the coming years. Not just .com but the ccTLDs including .us. The Internet is still in its infancy and there is enormous potential for growth remaining.
Presently the trend is not to replace the domain name system but to accommodate growth by adding TLDs for example.

A similar analogy is the telephone system that has remained familiar for the last decades. In spite of major technology strides like the switch from analog to digital we are still using numbers.

 

[AMG]

After reading this, I got exited and decided to buy a bunch of LLL.US. Here what I got:

art.us
You have cancelled the negotiation.
29,995 USD
07/16/07

ask.us
You have cancelled the negotiation.
255,000 USD
07/16/07

dvd.us
You have cancelled the negotiation.
95,000 EUR
07/16/07


aid.us
You have cancelled the negotiation.
175,000 USD
07/16/07

 

[italiandragon]

After reading this, I got exited and decided to buy a bunch of LLL.US. Here what I got:

art.us
You have cancelled the negotiation.
29,995 USD
07/16/07

ask.us
You have cancelled the negotiation.
255,000 USD
07/16/07

dvd.us
You have cancelled the negotiation.
95,000 EUR
07/16/07


aid.us
You have cancelled the negotiation.
175,000 USD
07/16/07

are you kidding right?

 

[AMG]

nope

 

[Lasher]

Those are the counter offers you got back right? What were the initial offers, if you made a lowball offer on a clearly xx,xxx name some might respond with an extremely high "go away" counter offer.

You did manage to find 4 names with a 75% "registered in the US" hit-rate though, congratulations, that's much better than average.

 

[AMG]

Those are the counter offers you got back right? What were the initial offers, if you made a lowball offer on a clearly xx,xxx name some might respond with an extremely high "go away" counter offer.

You did manage to find 4 names with a 75% "registered in the US" hit-rate though, congratulations, that's much better than average.

I made offers in the range of $200-$400

Take This guys:

air.us
You have cancelled the negotiation.
1,100,000 USD
07/16/07