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Well we already knew, right?

A canirank study from last year found that keyword domains rank 11% higher on average than branded domains. It found the following:

Branded domains needed an average of 40,000 more links to hit #1, and 35,000 more links to reach the top 10.Keyword domains were able to hit position one with half as much content, and only using the keyword half as frequently. Source:clickz
 
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What about "Acronym+Keyword" domains? Like VR+Keyword and RC+Keyword etc.
 
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Businesses shouldn't have to choose, The best strategy is to utilize both Brand and key word domain names in your marketing plan
 
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It also probably costs less to promote a keyword than a brand because the keyword(s) are instantly recognizable, whereas brands need to be promoted for them to be recognized. I actually like and use both.

This is actually an excellent topic.
 
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Well we already knew, right?
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I would always include a keyword (and brand), it increases CTR in search results and makes it at least a bit easier to rank for your keyword. But rankings also depend on lots of other factors like speed, content quality and so on....
 
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I would always include a keyword (and brand), it increases CTR in search results and makes it at least a bit easier to rank for your keyword. But rankings also depend on lots of other factors like speed, content quality and so on....

and, of course ..... MONEY :)
 
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I personally like geo-keyword.
 
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Companies choose brandables as they are easier to trademark and they can more easily acquire a domain without having to pay any real money for it.
 
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Companies choose brandables as they are easier to trademark and they can more easily acquire a domain without having to pay any real money for it.

Agree, mostly. But for the rich companies it doesn't matter much because what they don't spend on a domain name they spend on trademark promotion. Maybe the smaller companies will go your root, but if they will penny-pinch on the promotional aspects at their own risk and detriment.
 
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I have seen an NYSE listed company hand-regging newbie-quality domains for its projects.
 
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I have seen an NYSE listed company hand-regging newbie-quality domains for its projects.

That's either very crazy or very smart depending on what they do with the content on those domains.
 
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So like, any strong brand should really own their keywords.
Seriously, the look on peoples faces when you try to explain this is so "like...seriously"
and it is so obvious.
 
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Great Post! I love when people share stats to match their opinions.
 
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According to G, it makes no difference to have a domain like hddoslkqq.com or dogtraining.com to rank. But G has a persistent habit of lying, so, we are somehow in the dark.

Personally, but there are some side effects that may give the perception that a KW domain is easier to rank.

Among the side effects: immediate understanding by the visitors of what the site is about, better chances to have proper anchor texts, more visitor trust if the brand is unknow...

I am dubitous about the study. Do you know the exact source ?
Usually, you need less than 30 to 40 000 links to rank a keyword. You need better links. There might be exceptions for single words such as money, dating, acne or very hard keyphrases like dog training.

Comparing the number of links when the numbers are high is not relevant. For example, one site may have 300k links and an other 340k but it proves nothing or very little because all 300k links are not equal.
 
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Personally, but there are some side effects that may give the perception that a KW domain is easier to rank.

Among the side effects: immediate understanding by the visitors of what the site is about, better chances to have proper anchor texts, more visitor trust if the brand is unknow...

I am dubitous about the study. Do you know the exact source ?
Usually, you need less than 30 to 40 000 links to rank a keyword. You need better links. There might be exceptions for single words such as money, dating, acne or very hard keyphrases like dog training.

Comparing the number of links when the numbers are high is not relevant. For example, one site may have 300k links and an other 340k but it proves nothing or very little because all 300k links are not equal.

Study was published October, 2014 by canirank, an SAAS company - canirank.com/blog/keyword-domains/. I don't know the company and have never used the software, but keep in mind they might want to post articles which benefit their own service ...

I'm also dubious of their methodology. As you pointed out, there are a lot of factors that go into ranking. The most obvious, for keyword domains, is anchor text. Backlinks are still big. The keyword will not only be in deliberate keyword anchors, but in URL and branded (assuming it's your brand) anchors as well.

The 40,000 links - most small to mid-sized sites don't have 40,000 links. That tells me they were looking at the deep end of the pool.

Google HAS changed how they treat keyword domains. In 2010 you could put just about anything up on a keyword domain and rank top 10 for that one keyword (more on that in a second). I used to do it with affiliate sites and outrank my merchants. It was fun while it lasted, but it was a game and other businesses weren't amused so Google pulled the plug.

Obviously, they couldn't completely discount the domain as a ranking factor because they'd be killing legit brands, but they did dial back on it with the EMD update, and are probably taking branding signals into consideration too, which makes sense. Keyword.tld that's a genuine brand vs keyword.tld that's an MFA.

As for "owning your keyword" ... which keyword would that be? Sites rank for hundreds, thousands or more keywords - as they should! Clients often overestimate the benefits to ranking for some hard-to-get "trophy" keyword - the numbers usually prove that's not what's driving sales or conversions. Trophy terms tend to bring in top-of-funnel traffic - good to have, but with a higher cost per conversion.

It's fine to brand on a category keyword - if you can do it, go for it. But it isn't a showstopper if you don't. Try these searches:
diamond ring
iphone6
New York lawyer
diet supplement
carpet cleaner
auto loans​

I see brands, brands and more brands. So again, not sure where those folks got their data.

garptrader said:
I have seen an NYSE listed company hand-regging newbie-quality domains for its projects.

Newbie to a domainer, there is probably a valid business reason. I know pharmas that hand reg long phrases to use for email marketing campaigns and a small companion site. It's fine for the purpose and saves budget for something more critical.
 
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@enlytend
I have the same vision as you on the effect of a keyword domain versus a brandable domain.

The article does not say much about the conditions of the experiment: how many keyword did they test ? were they ultra-difficult, what were specifically the keywords etc.. As a consequence, I regard its conclusion with some reservations.

I remember some 10 years ago, it was a common practice to try to find correlations between ranking and say title, keyword density, anchor texts and other factors. I also remember reading numerous articles explaining those correlations were very uncertain because of the side effects.

Those side effects are of course very real, but overall, I think pointing out the (huge) side benefits is a better sales strategy rather than claiming a true correlation between emd and ranking.
 
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Some great points so far. The interesting concept I see happening now is companies with a very unique brand/website are collecting keyword based domains and using them in their marketing strategy to either redirect to their site or develop them as sub sites to their main one and rank them up.

This is awesome because that way you keep your brand while taking full advantage of the benefits of keyword type of domains.

- Will
 
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@enlytend has brilliantly described it and I agree with it 100%.

I take that keyword domains aren't the winners all the time. Well may be GEO domains, but when we talk about more than small businesses (enterprises, startups, corporations) then what matters most is to have a recognized brand. This is why such type of businesses spend thousands even millions of dollars just on advertising (and/or brand awareness).

So as much as I like having generic keyword domains (runnngshoes .com, fastcars .com - not mine), but I would go with a brandable domain to represent my main business website.
 
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