discuss Joe Biden - NOW USA President

[Shojib]

Joe Biden - 284
Donald Trump - 214

Congratulations on victory.

 

[JB Lions]

Joe Biden will have:

306 Electoral Votes

Most votes ever

Flipped 5 states

4.6 million popular votes and growing, will get up to 5-7 million

Decisive victory, Trump got beat down

You guys are crying more than the Hillary supporters you made fun of when she lost

 

[.X.]

I know you don’t want to have redo ... you said you are a moderate ... but yet posted President Kamala Harris ... who you know is very progressive ... so you support the progressive actions

 

[bmugford]

the election is still on going though.... they are still counting votes right this minute ... you down for a complete redo???

Sure, as long as we can keep going until Biden wins.

What are you even talking about. It is over.
The voting ended on last Tuesday. Math won.

Just because some people don't like the results, tough titties.

Brad

 

[.X.]

Na. They are smart enough to avoid crowds during a pandemic.

There is a reason Biden didn't have massive in person rallies. Most of his voters actually take the pandemic seriously.

Brad

dude... Biden supporters were out in the streets in the thousands!! Hugging and ect...

 

[Samer]

Joe Biden will have:

306 Electoral Votes

Most votes ever

Flipped 5 states

4.6 million popular votes and growing, will get up to 5-7 million

Decisive victory, Trump got beat down

You guys are crying more than the Hillary supporters you made fun of when she lost

I know you don’t want to have redo ... you said you are a moderate ... but yet posted President Kamala Harris ... who you know is very progressive ... so you support the progressive actions

JB is happier for women’s rights
(first female VP) race card (women of color) but he doesnt realize Harris is biracial
Asian and Black; she’s milking; “race card”
which probably greatly benefited Trump’s % Blacks vote narrower? JB got 92% Black vote
I think i read that somewhere; mind boggling

@JB Lions doesnt care about competence

 

[.X.]

Sure, as long as we can keep going until Biden wins.

What are you even talking about. It is over.
The voting ended on last Tuesday. Math won.

Just because some people don't like the results, tough titties.

Brad

k .... just so as Biden wins .... not who actually wins... that is not democracy

 

[JB Lions]

JB is more happy for women’s rights
(first female VP) race card (women of color) but he doesnt realize Harris is biracial
Asian and Black; she’s milking; “race card”

@JB Lions doesnt care about competence

Trump supporter using the word competence

There was an election, Trump Lost. That's it. Not the first time we've had an election. All these suits getting filed are for show, looks like he's been losing them.

This snowflakey, crying about it, isn't a good look. Not going to change anything.

Biden will get sworn in on January 20, 2021.

So 2 months, 11 more days of tears.

 

[.X.]

Sure, as long as we can keep going until Biden wins.

What are you even talking about. It is over.
The voting ended on last Tuesday. Math won.

Just because some people don't like the results, tough titties.

Brad

there you go folks ... a Biden win no matter the costs .... that pretty much sums up the 2020 election

 

[bmugford]

dude... Biden supporters were out in the streets in the thousands!! Hugging and ect...

Yep, and I wasn't. I would love to also see the mask % difference between Biden and Trump rallies.

Looks like there is another outbreak in the White House due to the election night event. No social distancing. No masks.

Mark Meadows, Ben Carson, and Trump's lead election lawyer David Bossie. Some people never learn.

Brad

 

[bmugford]

k .... just so as Biden wins .... not who actually wins... that is not democracy

Hi, it's Brad from reality. Joe Biden actually won.
He had more votes both raw and electoral.

WTF are you talking about.

Asking for a re-do is absurd. On what basis?

Brad

 

[wot]

Biden is president elect, quite simple. Trump will soon be begging Joe for a pardon and some sort of shield from the litigation that will be raining down on him.

 

[bmugford]

Biden is president elect, quite simple. Trump will soon be begging Joe for a pardon and some sort of shield from the litigation that will be raining down on him.

I read somewhere that Trump is a defendant in over 500+ civil cases. Have fun with that.
All of a sudden you can't just ignore subpoenas.

Brad

 

[.X.]

Hi, it's Brad from reality. Joe Biden actually won.
He had more votes both raw and electoral.

WTF are you talking about.

Asking for a re-do is absurd. On what basis?

Brad

I am talking about a complete revote ... on the basis of voting machines stopping working in the middle of voting.... a busted water pipe in the room votes were being counted .... boxes of ballots being brought into a counting facility at 4 am ... and it just keeps going ..

 

[bmugford]

I am talking about a complete revote ... on the basis of voting machines stopping working in the middle of voting.... a busted water pipe in the room votes were being counted .... boxes of ballots being brought into a counting facility at 4 am ... and it just keeps going ..

Evidence please. Courts have a very high bar.

Just because you read something on Facebook is not that. Isolated incidents will happen with a 150M votes.
It is a big leap to get to "massive voter fraud" from there.

Like a said before in Philly Trump did like 4% better than in 2016. He got beaten badly in the suburbs though because people don't like him.

I have yet to see any legitimate empirical evidence, apparently neither has the courts.

Every ballot that was counted, everywhere, had the option to have observers from both parties.
The arguments are over semantics like 10 feet vs 6 feet. Either way the rules were the same for both sides.

Brad

 

[wot]

Regarding Covid precautions, I will say it again. I live in a country of 70 million people.
From Feb/March of this year we,and a couple of neighbouring countries followed the example of China. Locked down for a month,very strict. Masks were,and still are to a great extent an essential, social distancing, sanitizer is still at the entrance of supermarkets and most shops,markets etc. International travel is still very restricted.

The result:
To date from the start of the pandemic there are just over 3000 infections recorded.
To date there are less than 60 deaths.
Compliancewith the rules/restrictions was around 100 per cent.

Make of that what you will.

 

[.X.]

Evidence please. Courts have a very high bar.

Just because you read something on Facebook is not that. Isolated incidents will happen with a 150M votes.
It is a big leap to get to "massive voter fraud" from there.

Like a said before in Philly Trump did like 4% better than in 2016. He got beaten badly in the suburbs though because people don't like him.

I have yet to see any legitimate empirical evidence, apparently neither has the courts.

Every ballot that was counted, everywhere, had the option to have observers from both parties.

Brad

this isn’t about Donald Trump .... this is the election process integrity that is at stake ... but ....Tis ok ... Things will work themselves out .... Trump virtually has no chance in the courts ... but the people know it’s a illegitimate election

 

[bmugford]

Regarding Covid precautions, I will say it again. I live in a country of 70 million people.
From Feb/March of this year we,and a couple of neighbouring countries followed the example of China. Locked down for a month,very strict. Masks were,and still are to a great extent an essential, social distancing, sanitizer is still at the entrance of supermarkets and most shops,markets etc. International travel is still very restricted.

The result:
To date from the start of the pandemic there are just over 3000 infections recorded.
To date there are less than 60 deaths.
Compliancewith the rules/restrictions was around 100 per cent.

Make of that what you will.

But have you factored in freedumbs?

I can't believe when people don't take safety protocols seriously, it gets out of hand. Crazy.

No one could have seen that coming.

Brad

 

[bmugford]

this isn’t about Donald Trump .... this is the election process integrity that is at stake ... but ....Tis ok ... Things will work themselves out .... Trump virtually has no chance in the courts ... but the people know it’s a illegitimate election

Right...

He has no chance because he lost, legitimately. His nonsense cases have no merit.
It is entirely an exercise in stroking his ego.

What was not legitimate about the outcome?

Are we saying all the ballots were cheating, but only on the Trump/Biden part.
Or also on the part that the GOP is not complaining about where the GOP did better.

And there could not possibly be fraud the other way. You realize 2 armed Qanon Trump supporters were arrested in Philly talking about delivering fake votes right? That is about the only evidence I have seen so far that lead to an arrest.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommyb...adelphia-to-deliver-truck-full-of-fake-votes/

Brad

 

[Mike Goodman]

In the West socialism is understood as totalitarian system and enslaved population.. So in US fascism is falsely called socialism.

Which part of the western world are you talking about? Perhaps what you are saying is true of a deluded minority in each of several countries but that is generally not widespread. Here in Britain we understand the difference between communism, socialism, social democracy, liberalism, fascism and conservatism. And the differences in philosophy between each of them are pretty damned huge*.

Each of the two main political parties in both the UK and the USA are coalitions encompassing at least two of those philosophies. If you don't like the other ones in your party you either bite your lip or move to the other one. Assuming, of course, you "belong" to either in the first place.

I completely fail to understand a system which spends more money PER HEAD of population on its health budget than any European country including the UK without actually treating a single sick or injured citizen. That is utterly obscene. There are many millions of US citizens who agree with that point. They are neither communists, socialists nor fascists.

*Socialism and conservatism are broader terms: socialism can encompass communism as a sub-set and conservatism can do likewise with liberalism, neoliberalism (you call it neoconservatism) and fascism.

 

[.X.]

Right...

He has no chance because he lost, legitimately. His nonsense cases have no merit.
It is entirely an exercise in stroking his ego.

What was not legitimate about the outcome?

Are we saying all the ballots were cheating, but only on the Trump/Biden part.
Or also on the part that the GOP is not complaining about where the GOP did better.

And there could not possibly be fraud the other way. You realize 2 armed Qanon Trump supporters were arrested in Philly talking about delivering fake votes right? That is about the only evidence I have seen so far lead to an arrest.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommyb...adelphia-to-deliver-truck-full-of-fake-votes/

Brad

Bottom line ... America is 50 - 50 divided and it has taken its toll on the country ... history speaks loudly on this situation ... people are turning their head on history so history is bound to repeat itself

 

[wot]

But have you factored in freedumbs?

I can't believe when people don't take safety protocols seriously, it gets out of hand. Crazy.

No one could have seen that coming.

Brad

How about this one.
My father was admitted to hospital In the UK who got the pandemic as wrong as the US and a couple of other countries.
He has early stage dementia and was admitted after a fall four weeks ago. 2 days ago he tested positive for the virus!

He got it in hospital!

 

[bmugford]

Bottom line ... America is 50 - 50 divided and has taken its toll on the country ... history speaks loudly on this situation ... people are turning their head on history so history is bound to repeat itself

This is what Steve Bannon, yeah, the guy who was Trump's campaign manager and recently got banned from Twitter for saying he would behead Fauci and the FBI director...called flooding the zone with shit.

The election was legitimate. Trump lost.
That's it.

Hillary Clinton was gracious enough to concede when she won the popular vote, and lost by a far smaller margin than Trump in 3 states.

Brad

 

[.X.]

Which part of the western world are you talking about? Perhaps what you are saying is true of a deluded minority in each of several countries but that is generally not widespread. Here in Britain we understand the difference between communism, socialism, social democracy, liberalism, fascism and conservatism. And the differences in philosophy between each of them are pretty damned huge*.

Each of the two main political parties in both the UK and the USA are coalitions encompassing at least two of those philosophies. If you don't like the other ones in your party you either bite your lip or move to the other one. Assuming, of course, you "belong" to either in the first place.

I completely fail to understand a system which spends more money PER HEAD of population on its health budget than any European country including the UK without actually treating a single sick or injured citizen. That is utterly obscene. There are many millions of US citizens who agree with that point. They are neither communists, socialists nor fascists.

*Socialism and conservatism are broader terms: socialism can encompass communism as a sub-set and conservatism can do likewise with liberalism, neoliberalism (you call it neoconservatism) and fascism.

America has never been full of the “ isms”. Until now ....

 

[.X.]

This is what Steve Bannon, yeah, the guy who was Trump's campaign manager and recently got banned from Twitter for saying he would behead Fauci and the FBI director...called flooding the zone with shit.

The election was legitimate. Trump lost.
That's it.

Hillary Clinton was gracious enough to concede when she won the popular vote, and lost by a far smaller margin than Trump in 3 states.

Brad

Bannon is an Alt- Right ... I don’t like Alt- Right or far right ... i just look at what history says about the main problem the US has. ...

 

[Cannuck]

This is what Steve Bannon, yeah, the guy who was Trump's campaign manager and recently got banned from Twitter for saying he would behead Fauci and the FBI director...called flooding the zone with shit.

Bannon set the stage for Trump and his followers. He recently lost his defense counsel after declaring, "I'd put heads on pikes," he said on his podcast. "I'd put them at the two corners of the White House as a warning to federal bureaucrats." He is being charged for defrauding and misusing funds used to build the border wall... Humpty Dumpty himself is completely off the wall!

https://www.businessinsider.com/ban...-after-calling-for-beheading-of-fauci-2020-11