advice Is it me or My domain?

[siyavuya]

I came to Namepros because it was highly recommended by a friend,
I bought a domain Artshop.io and listed it here. I waited and waited and nothing. I got a couple of views and that was it. No inquiries nothing. I have been asking around here and still no direct help.

HELP ME PLEASE I'm really lost.
Is it me or is it the domain it'self
artshop.io is supposed to be a good domain

I look forward to getting some help from you as to what I need to do to sell it.

Regards
Siya

 

[siyavuya]

That is up to you, and only for you to decide.

If it is worth anything, I have seen much worse names - that have been developed - sell for good amounts on Flippa.

Again, it is completely up to you.

Whatever you decide, I wish you well.

You're right. This domain gives me a chance to learn first hand. Based on what you said I'm going to build and monetize it. I will start sourcing the right quality art to review and create a hub after about 40 posts I think that would be a good time to start selling ads and art while building a customer list. I know most people will be attracted to the customer list and traffic on the site. That will take away from the bad domain.

 

[Hustling]

You're right. This domain gives me a chance to learn first hand. Based on what you said I'm going to build and monetize it. I will start sourcing the right quality art to review and create a hub after about 40 posts I think that would be a good time to start selling ads and art while building a customer list. I know most people will be attracted to the customer list and traffic on the site. That will take away from the bad domain.

That is a good strategy. It doesn't seem like you intend to renew your domain (which you probably shouldn't if worst comes to fruition), so might as well, right?

If and when you do decide to monetize, you stand a good chance of at the very least recouping your initial investment (cost of your purchased domain). And who knows? If things work out better than expected, you could probably flip the domain (that comes with the list of subscribers and/or a steady flow of income per month) for a decent sum. Then you can come back here and prove to all the naysayers they were wrong.

 

[lock]

It is a bit of both. Every domain you buy your going to have to try to sell. You also need an idea of who to and how much before you should purchase if you want to resell. You also need to understand how the marketplaces operate. Plenty here to read and everyone is steering you in right direction but name is average although not a difficult sell but art is only worth money as art. Suit graphics brand. 2 words dot io so all will assume it is new how you handle a negotiation will determine how new you are also.

 

[siyavuya]

It is a bit of both. Every domain you buy your going to have to try to sell. You also need an idea of who to and how much before you should purchase if you want to resell. You also need to understand how the marketplaces operate. Plenty here to read and everyone is steering you in right direction but name is average although not a difficult sell but art is only worth money as art. Suit graphics brand. 2 words dot io so all will assume it is new how you handle a negotiation will determine how new you are also.

You're so right with what you said. I have learned a lot from this thread alone.
If I'm not wrong but I think the domain name is only 30% part of the formula
which means that traffic, list, sales and original content on a site are a sure way to get a sale at a good price
. What I'm already doing is to have a list of 100 possible people I can sell my domain to before I even buy it. Then focus on things I can control like the quality of the site and quality of traffic. It's hard to even think about the negotiation part. It's a bridge that can be crossed once I get to it (But not looking forward to it)

 

[EASYPICKINGS]

Hey chances are if your posting a single name, no matter how good, you will not sell it here for what you want, or at the pace you want. It may take years for the right person to come across your name, unless your willing to let it go for cheap to these re-sellers here. Honestly, unless you have a 1-4 letter name, or a single word name, their is almost 0% chance your getting value on name pros. You could present a diamond status name to these people, and they will offer you $1. Your best chances are actually cold calling, emailing, facebook messaging an artshop that may want to invest in it. If you offered that name to my to add to my portfolio I would say I do not want it only because, an end-user would prefer a .com name.

 

[Investful]

"I bought a domain Artshop.io and listed it here. I waited and waited and nothing. I got a couple of views and that was it. No inquiries nothing. " "Is it me or is it the domain it'self"

It's mostly the domain. You being new on NamePros doesn't affect the price of the domain.

Your keywords combo are good but have a bad extension(.io). If you're a beginner, STAY AWAY from registering anything but .com. For example: if you listed "artshop.com", you'll probably get around $15k+ here easily.

Also STAY AWAY from hyphens, numbers and really long names.

 

[Jv1999]

1. Everything in this thread telling you domaining isn't for you because you don't have patience is trash. They all want you to beliebe you can't reggae a domain and sail it fast on np. But the truth is, most of these p3ople habe experienced 24 or less hours between reggae and sail.

2. The reason why your auction didn't get any bids is becaise your domain sux. Artshop.io is two words... in .io that's a bad sign, but not necessarily shi*, becaise if you had fintech.io, that would get a bid lightning fast. Art shop will most likely be for brick and mortar arts & crafts stores... that's so far from relevant or appealing to the .io usuals.

Don't give up on domaining. People are able to sail fast to end users within a day. What more a bid on np? You can do it too if you take the time to understand what good domains are and what bad domains are.

There are so many domains available that will get at least a $5 bid. The problem is that youd spend $7 to reggae them. So Th eres a bit of a risk.

But, it's also true that the long-term way to domaining is by buying and hodling domains for years. I believe most people have long-term domains and short-term domains in their portfolio

 

[mr-x]

...
HELP ME PLEASE I'm really lost.
Is it me or is it the domain it'self

Welcome to the community. Try to define why a domain is good for a business before you buy it. Work out a set of questions to ask yourself:

• Is it easy to say, spell?
• What makes it unique?
• Does the .tld match the name?
• How large is the market? Example, teatherball.com, nice name but how many people do you imagine could use this? Now consider football.com, it obvious right?

For keyword domains, it best if the keywords are registered in many tld's. For brandable or creative names, they should be easy to pronounce. Check how much similar names have sold for in the past.

 

[siyavuya]

Welcome to the community. Try to define why a domain is good for a business before you buy it. Work out a set of questions to ask yourself:

• Is it easy to say, spell?
• What makes it unique?
• Does the .tld match the name?
• How large is the market? Example, teatherball.com, nice name but how many people do you imagine could use this? Now consider football.com, it obvious right?

For keyword domains, it best if the keywords are registered in many tld's. For brandable or creative names, they should be easy to pronounce. Check how much similar names have sold for in the past.

I have copied what you wrote because I can see how it makes sense and will serve me in my next purchase. I hope that a lot of people are paying attention to what is being shared here. Thank you so much.

 

[Bob Hawkes]

Very nice concise answer of key considerations for any domain name, @mr-x!

In terms of your domain name @siyavuya the only real one that is debateable is the match of TLD to name.

Most of the time so far .io have mainly sold for much when tech related, very short and or single generic word. That being said, it does not mean that it will not change, as increasing interest and sales in an extension generally go that way. I think none of us know.

If you decide to develop it, I would argue that the domain name is descriptive, positive and memorable, and the prior small number of sales in non-tech, two word .io is not that important. The success of developed sites depend mainly on content, technical and currency aspects, as long as the domain name is not bad.

The very best wishes.

Bob

 

[NonHipster]

I came to Namepros because it was highly recommended by a friend,
I bought a domain Artshop.io and listed it here. I waited and waited and nothing. I got a couple of views and that was it. No inquiries nothing. I have been asking around here and still no direct help.

HELP ME PLEASE I'm really lost.
Is it me or is it the domain it'self
artshop.io is supposed to be a good domain

I look forward to getting some help from you as to what I need to do to sell it.

Regards
Siya

GoDaddy appraisal on ArtShop.io is $2507.00 hang on to it for a while and do not sell it too cheaply!

 

[DOMAIN ILLUMINATI]

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I look forward to getting some help from you as to what I need to do to sell it.
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wwwelcome @ nP

Actually, all what you need "to do" to sell it, is nothing because if someone wants it they will buy it.

But of course - if you think it's worth the effort - you can always invest your valuable time and maybe even your valuable money to offer it (outbound emails, phone calls, personal shop visits, posting / advertising it across the web etc.) to potential buyers - this can naturally increase the chances for a sale.

You could even book a zeppelin that will display your domain name (for sale) in big letters while it flys around - but I don't recommend that as I think the financial risk is to highhh

However, if you will sell it, you are welcome to let us knowww
And for the case that you won't sell it, at least you surely will have learned something that may be helpful for future decisions. Like manyyy

 

[johnnie018]

Very nice concise answer of key considerations for any domain name, @mr-x!

In terms of your domain name @siyavuya the only real one that is debateable is the match of TLD to name.

Most of the time so far .io have mainly sold for much when tech related, very short and or single generic word. That being said, it does not mean that it will not change, as increasing interest and sales in an extension generally go that way. I think none of us know.

If you decide to develop it, I would argue that the domain name is descriptive, positive and memorable, and the prior small number of sales in non-tech, two word .io is not that important. The success of developed sites depend mainly on content, technical and currency aspects, as long as the domain name is not bad.

The very best wishes.

Bob

Look at the past. .me, .ly, .cc, .ws. These extensions have a lifespan and then they become last decades extension. Looking at companies using those and it is like carbon dating the point in time at which they started. .io probably has a couple of good years left.

 

[Bob Hawkes]

Hi again @siyavuya. I see that your domain name is up for sale on GoDaddy auctions now. I don't quite understand the reasons, but .io seem to almost never sell there. It is a great venue for selling .com, and to some degree the other legacy, but seems not a good place to sell .io and new extensions. For example in the past year there have been 874 sales of .io domains (NameBio listed at least) of which 712 happened at ParkIo, 60 at Sedo, and only 1 at GoDaddy.

You can see the list at this link and it is helpful to browse both re where they sold and also the types of names and sales amounts. Now keep in mind that Sedo sales under $2000, essentially all Afternic, Undeveloped and Efty sales are not entered in NameBio, so this is only a portion of the full sales picture.

https://namebio.com/?s==gDM3MTM2AjM

I also did a look through to see what two word names ending in shop had sold previously. Only a handful in the $$$ range. That of course does not mean yours will not sell. I see that 'art shop' generates about 22 million search results, so it is promising that there are tons of potential end users for your domain name.

While publicly free NameBio only gives access to sales above $100, with a subscription I can access the sales under $100. Thee are surprisingly many. In fact more than 1800 additional .io sales in the last year, and the vast majority of them are near $100 (and are sold at Park.io).

Once again the very best wishes for success with it.

Bob

 

[larryscott2559]

I came to Namepros because it was highly recommended by a friend,
I bought a domain Artshop.io and listed it here. I waited and waited and nothing. I got a couple of views and that was it. No inquiries nothing. I have been asking around here and still no direct help.

HELP ME PLEASE I'm really lost.
Is it me or is it the domain it'self
artshop.io is supposed to be a good domain

I look forward to getting some help from you as to what I need to do to sell it.

Regards
Siya

Stick to .com domains and 1-2 keyword .net domains. Everything else is garbage

 

[Zilla]

no domain is garbage if u decide to dev it, but this totally out of topic in this forum, we are domainer and only judge name ... a good domain is even u build a poor site on it, even finally the site bankrupt, once it clear all bad link related, the name still a great name, other people can reuse it for a new site...sometime we heard some site is broken and the only valuable of that site left is the domain only....

a bad name is, even u build a suceess business on it, but u may continue think about to upgrade the domain to a better one, thus u can have even better business and less branding.ad spending

just my two cents

 

[johnnie018]

Stick to .com domains and 1-2 keyword .net domains. Everything else is garbage

100%

 

[VaibhavA]

Hello,

Welcome to namepros.

I understand how you feel. I was there 3 years back without any experience and without much of time and money.

Reg your domain "ArtShop", is a good domain in com but maybe not that good in io. But I still see some potential and you may sell it in first year in mid xxx$ range by listing it in marketplaces like godaddy, sedo, afternic, undeveloped.

Be patient. Invest time in reading and learning. There are many good domainers here with lots of good tips.

Best of luck.

 

[namezest]

Poor girl, just wait until you learn about 3 and 4 character domains. In any case is google a good web domain?
It only became so because of phonics, because as a search engine, the two words 'GO' and 'LOOK'
together as 'GOLOOK' is rather crap, so ... 'OGLE' (another word for 'LOOK') when put after 'GO' became
'GOOGLE' it is pronounceable but is actually TWO Words. Don't believe me GOLOOK!

BTW... If you develop a site you're domain value increases sharply.

 

[siyavuya]

Poor girl, just wait until you learn about 3 and 4 character domains. In any case is google a good web domain?
It only became so because of phonics, because as a search engine, the two words 'GO' and 'LOOK'
together as 'GOLOOK' is rather crap, so ... 'OGLE' (another word for 'LOOK') when put after 'GO' became
'GOOGLE' it is pronounceable but is actually TWO Words. Don't believe me GOLOOK!

BTW... If you develop a site you're domain value increases sharply.

I'm not really looking at brandables. Like you said "poor girl" I don't have the money to make it a household name. Thank you for the advice.