advice Is it me or My domain?

[siyavuya]

I came to Namepros because it was highly recommended by a friend,
I bought a domain Artshop.io and listed it here. I waited and waited and nothing. I got a couple of views and that was it. No inquiries nothing. I have been asking around here and still no direct help.

HELP ME PLEASE I'm really lost.
Is it me or is it the domain it'self
artshop.io is supposed to be a good domain

I look forward to getting some help from you as to what I need to do to sell it.

Regards
Siya

 

[siyavuya]

I'm truly humbled by the responses. I got more than what I was expecting. You have helped me not only with my expectations but with the future of my domain business. This something I want to do and be good at. This is what I call a very good start and an end to my frustrations. I hope one day I will be able to give someone new valuable advises like what you have given me.

I have copied the replies and will keep them to pass on to someone who will be going through the same thing. So if you see your past comment in 2 years don't jump on me, please. lol

Thank you really for taking the time to help me.

Regards
Siya

 

[Dave]

Domaining doesn't work like that. If it did we'd all be sipping Henri IV Dudognon Heritage Cognac Grande Champagne on a beach somewhere.

 

[hawkeye]

So...your expectation is that all you have to do is register 'some type' of domain name, join a domain forum, list for sale, and it's supposed to sell instantly? Yeah..., this may not be the right industry for you to be in. Maybe look into doing magic tricks or something else. Good grief.

 

[Bob Hawkes]

@Silentptnr has given a very solid answer to your question, so I won't repeat what he has said. Even in .com, typically there is about 1 chance in 100 that a domain sells in a particular year. As such this is a very different business from selling almost anything else. Some experienced domainers take exception with new domainers assuming instant sales, but when we think about it that is a totally reasonable expectation based on selling other things. I create some crafts, list them on eBay or Shopify or somewhere, and expect some sales or at least queries right away. Even if you price low, domain names are so unique they usually don't sell quickly.

One thing about .io is that many of them are sold to small tech startups. Also the vast majority of sales are at one venue, Park.io, so even good names sometimes don't sell in other venues. Also the high renewal scares some domain investors from buying them wholesale. ArtShop is a good name, and in .com or co or some country code would be amazing. It might appeal to some startups, or maybe a little art shop would like the .io extension, but it is not like an obvious tech or single generic word that many of the .io sales are.

I sincerely hope you have success with this and other domain names.

Bob

 

[Silentptnr]

I think the issue is that NP is mainly domain investors. Your domain is a good domain, but when I look at it, I see a .io nearing expiration. You asked for a $20 opening bid. That means that I'm going to spend about $50 on it right away. What else could I do with that $50?

The fact is, looks like you've renewed it so update your auction!

That's probably what's going on.

Don't take it personally. It takes time. You just registered the domain in a month ago.

 

[barman]

It's both.

The name - I don't think it's a good domain actually. With .io, you want the keyword to be either tech related or an empty vessel type of name. art.io, shop.io - great names. artshop.io ... you just don't expect an artshop to sit on an .io extension.

You - domaining is a waiting game. You've had this domain for what, 6 minutes and you expect it to sell instantly? Not going to happen. People wait around years for the right buyer to get the value they expect out of a name. The worse your name is, the longer you're going to wait (unless you have a fire sale and sell the name for pennies on the dollar)

 

[siyavuya]

It's both.

The name - I don't think it's a good domain actually. With .io, you want the keyword to be either tech related or an empty vessel type of name. art.io, shop.io - great names. artshop.io ... you just don't expect an artshop to sit on an .io extension.

You - domaining is a waiting game. You've had this domain for what, 6 minutes and you expect it to sell instantly? Not going to happen. People wait around years for the right buyer to get the value they expect out of a name. The worse your name is, the longer you're going to wait (unless you have a fire sale and sell the name for pennies on the dollar)

Thank you thank you. I have learned a lot from these comments. Now I can move on knowing the mistake I made. I was think ing of developing it into a site but that would be a waste of time. I'm grateful

 

[johnn]

A lot of people here can't even sell their names. Why do you think someone can help you if they can't even help themselves?

 

[Kenny]

Hi

from my perspective, the only mistake you made was thinking it would sell in a short period.
,
anticipation, expectations, assumptions , etc, about domaining, can all lead to disappointment.

however, the domain is good if you just want to develop it

especially if you are knowledgeable about art, can draw or paint or you want to sell various types of artwork

then..... after you put in that work, value will be obvious

imo...

This ^^^

Yours is not a resale type of name. Because of the extension,
But, as biggie has said, it is a great keyword for development, and if you have skills the learning experience will be as valuable as the domain when you are finished.

The ability to flip domains in a short time is a learned skill, and not learned overnight.

Don't give up, take everything you read in this thread with a grain of salt.
Some members know what they are talking about, some don't, but everyone has an opinion, and it shouldn't take you very long to figure out who knows and who blows..

My suggestion is before you register any more domains you spend a couple of MONTHS, reading and learning the what and the why of this business.

You are obviously intelligent and would know that nothing of value comes easy.
Put in the work, reap the rewards.

Welcome to NamePros!

Peace,
Kenny

PS, the level of personal attacks in this thread is outrageous.
We'll be coming back to clean things up, and some of you will not be happy.

 

[Ategy]

I have to pretty much repeat what @barman said ...

.oi is an expensive premium tech industry extention. Basically 2nd choice for those startups who can't yet afford their targeted one word .com. So while artshop isn't a horrible term in any way, it really isn't going to turn many heads in terms of end users. Most art shops target the general population non-tech-savvy customer who don't have a clue what .io even is.

On top of that .. NamePros is a domainer forum. So effectively people are looking for wholesale or below pricing. Your intentions as a domainer should to never resell your domains here unless you bought them at bellow wholesale pricing.

I think the problem with your domain is that the "wholesale" value most domainers would put on that domain, while not zero, is likely around or below registration price, so it really isn't worth it. That being said .. there are a lot of domainers who don't have a good grasp of what's what .. so you never know .. price it low enough and someone could eventually bite ... but you'll never be profitable if that's your overall strategy.

 

[Hustling]

Thank you for the advice based on the comments it will be an uphill mission to build and try to make people see the value in a poor domain name. If it's a horrible domain before it's built then it will be horrible after.

That is up to you, and only for you to decide.

If it is worth anything, I have seen much worse names - that have been developed - sell for good amounts on Flippa.

Again, it is completely up to you.

Whatever you decide, I wish you well.

 

[mr-x]

...
HELP ME PLEASE I'm really lost.
Is it me or is it the domain it'self

Welcome to the community. Try to define why a domain is good for a business before you buy it. Work out a set of questions to ask yourself:

• Is it easy to say, spell?
• What makes it unique?
• Does the .tld match the name?
• How large is the market? Example, teatherball.com, nice name but how many people do you imagine could use this? Now consider football.com, it obvious right?

For keyword domains, it best if the keywords are registered in many tld's. For brandable or creative names, they should be easy to pronounce. Check how much similar names have sold for in the past.

 

[biggie]

Now I can move on knowing the mistake I made. I was think ing of developing it into a site but that would be a waste of time. I'm grateful

Hi

from my perspective, the only mistake you made was thinking it would sell in a short period.
,
anticipation, expectations, assumptions , etc, about domaining, can all lead to disappointment.

however, the domain is good if you just want to develop it

especially if you are knowledgeable about art, can draw or paint or you want to sell various types of artwork

then..... after you put in that work, value will be obvious

imo...

 

[siyavuya]

So...your expectation is that all you have to do is register 'some type' of domain name, join a domain forum, list for sale, and it's supposed to sell instantly? Yeah..., this may not be the right industry for you to be in. Maybe look into doing magic tricks or something else. Good grief.

Thank you for taking the time to reply it's appreciated. I was not expecting any sales but some interactions.
I apologize if my post offended you I will be glad to remove it. It was not my intention.

 

[NYJimbo]

Is it me or is it the domain it'self
artshop.io is supposed to be a good domain

Not sure who told you it was a good domain, but you might be sitting on it for a while before you get a nibble.

Start reading this forum like mad, learn and then buy your next domain.

 

[WatchDogue]

Reading over your post and the quality of the replies, you have received great advice from some
top NP posters.

Nice to see from your follow-up post that you have read and learned from the posters.

NP is a great place to learn about the vast arena of domains.

 

[Hustling]

I was think ing of developing it into a site but that would be a waste of time.

Developing it into a site would not be a waste time. Actually it is a pretty good idea, and what I would recommend to you as a next step, if you are a developer or know someone who is.

Develop it, get as many users to use it as you can, and then list it for sale on a site like Flippa.com. I am sure if you put in the time, you can sell the developed domain for a good amount of money. Then you can use the money to buy a better domain, which I would suggest you look to do so in the .com extension.

Best of luck! Hope it works out for you!

 

[Investful]

"I bought a domain Artshop.io and listed it here. I waited and waited and nothing. I got a couple of views and that was it. No inquiries nothing. " "Is it me or is it the domain it'self"

It's mostly the domain. You being new on NamePros doesn't affect the price of the domain.

Your keywords combo are good but have a bad extension(.io). If you're a beginner, STAY AWAY from registering anything but .com. For example: if you listed "artshop.com", you'll probably get around $15k+ here easily.

Also STAY AWAY from hyphens, numbers and really long names.

 

[JudgeMind]

perhaps there is a buyer for your domain name but namepros is not the place to try to sell it. Youll need to list at afternic, sedo, godaddy and put it for sale on a landing page. Don't expect a super high sale price for this domain and expect to have to wait some time before it actually sells or your get an offer. You may be able to find a buyer here on NP, but the price will be very low and that buyer will do the same as I stated above to sell the domain name for high $xxx - low $x,xxx. Good luck!

 

[4better]

Domaining is also an art but not an easy one. It takes a lot of time, patience and hard work before you'll see good results. You have shown eagerness and humility in your replies and you have my admiration. It would be prudent if one starts his/her domain ventures with .com as this is where the real gold is and where most phenomenal sales come. Just deal with the other tlds later on if you already have gained enough skills and experience. Wishing you good luck.

 

[cipcip]

It takes time.
Look at me, I am registered here for 12 years, I love domaining, I made some money, but I never reached the $1k mark... I had sales in mid $xxx area but that is all.

If you start domaining, you really should be patient. It is not an over-night scheme to get rich.
My advice: register .com. They are the really ones that I sold nicely. With new gtld's, I just did not make it... maybe is just me, but I offered most of the ones I have here for free. The only one that I have now, is a .xyz which is my last name, so I can do an e-mail like [email protected]

Good luck

 

[tvanrijt]

I just wanted to chime in.

First of all, I think ArtShop.io is a mismatch between extension and keywords. Like many before me said, I think .io should be aimed at tech-crypto keywords as adoption for this extension is good in these markets.

Second, don´t let Namepros replies discourage you. Typically, you will get less than 10% of what an end user might pay for a domain on here. The reason why is simple. We are domain investors and we want an ROI of at least 10x when we sell a name, to cover renewals etc without being in the red numbers.

An example from this week: I had Acqua // .io on here (amongst other .io names) for $75 for a while. Nobody even made a counter offer, no interest at all. Yesterday, it sold through Afternic for $688. Lucky sell I bet, but it shows that the $75 price was way too high for investors here, while an end user would pay much more.

My advice: just put ArtShop.io for around $200 on Afternic and hope it sells. If it doesn't, drop it.
If you register new names: stick to short tech related names for .io, but remember .com is king and currently you can reg 4 .com names at Dyandot for the price of 1 .io name. However, selling .com regs is tricky too, so be patient and be very careful what you register. Make sure you specialize: focus on Geo domains, brandables, tech keywords, whatever. Don't go all over the place because I think you will learn a lot faster if you are focussed.

 

[hawkeye]

I apologize if my post offended you I will be glad to remove it. It was not my intention

I never implied your post offended me. But your expectation to just be able to reg a domain, join a forum, and expect a sale within 9 days is somewhat naive and whinyish. jmo.

 

[Dominic Belley]

ArtShop . com does not resolve. I think its not a good sign when trying to sell the .io