In 2014 over a 1000 new domain extensions will be available.

[buyresaledomains]

What does that do to this biz? Does it make the .com even that much better? Or obsolete? As of now extensions have no bearing on search results. But what happens when a domain is "kendras.daycare". Will it impact Serps then?

 

[Keith]

I think the outcry will come from women's groups, family safe groups and religious groups. I think it will be a very slow transition but an inevitable one.

Well, they've had about 20 years to plead their case. I'd say they failed miserably. Let's give them another 20 and see if they have any success...

 

[McDuke]

Yeah now there are adult extensions and countries are starting to filter out .coms. Let see in 20 years.

 

[MasterOfMyDomains]

I have no opinion on .xxx extension. I heard from a seasoned and succesful investor here the premium .xxx will be worth $xxx,xxx in about xx years. Is all the stupid descriptive extensions, the registrars will keep releasing something just a bit better once .stupidextension runs out of premo stuff
I would buy a .info anyday over a .poopoo
Due diligence or we will get blasted out of the sky and vaporized.

 

[Kate]

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there will be public support to take adult extensions out of .com and into adult extensions.

That is wishful thinking, besides .xxx is a huge failure. Don't hope for a comeback. Be smart :imho:
And when they add more TLDs like .gay and .love or .footfetish, there will be even more dilution.

Airlines were supposed to switch to .aero too right ?
Industry-specific TLDs have always failed, and there is no reason to expect otherwise with adult.

Even if one country, even the US decides to ban adult on .com that won't directly affect other countries. But some countries have blacklisted the whole .xxx TLD though.

 

[tomcarl]

Some would argue that if the new gTLDs shift mainstream acceptance of .COM alternatives, .XXX values should be going up, not dilute.

 

[JB Lions]

I heard from a seasoned and succesful investor here the premium .xxx will be worth $xxx,xxx in about xx years.

Maybe he was being sarcastic or not thinking straight. For that amount of money, you can get a great .com. All these new alternative, novelty gtlds, will dilute. And has been pointed out by sdsinc, a site on .xxx is just easier to zap.

 

[McDuke]

Maybe he was being sarcastic or not thinking straight. For that amount of money, you can get a great .com. All these new alternative, novelty gtlds, will dilute. And has been pointed out by sdsinc, a site on .xxx is just easier to zap.

The thing is .xxx will be the legitimate safe adult area while .com's will become the underground dog poop eating type of sites and will be considered unsafe. Not to mention the issues around security in the .com adult world.

in 5 years you will see .xxx taking hold.

We can come back to this adult topic in a few years. For now I'll look at the couple beauty new Gtld's i want to get. .lighting look out!

 

[JB Lions]

The thing is .xxx will be the legitimate safe adult area while .com's will become the underground dog poop eating type of sites and will be considered unsafe. Not to mention the issues around security in the .com adult world.

in 5 years you will see .xxx taking hold.

We can come back to this adult topic in a few years. For now I'll look at the couple beauty new Gtld's i want to get. .lighting look out!

That doesn't even make sense. So it's only family friendly porn on .xxx not any of that weird, fetish stuff? .xxx, It's Safe Porn. Is that their slogan and I missed it? It's not going to be taking hold of anything, it'll probably be eating that poop you mentioned.

 

[McDuke]

That doesn't even make sense. So it's only family friendly porn on .xxx not any of that weird, fetish stuff? .xxx, It's Safe Porn. Is that their slogan and I missed it? It's not going to be taking hold of anything, it'll probably be eating that poop you mentioned.

Look i was trying to be funny there, but yes it has been noted that there are less security issues with .xxx. Remember I'm not stating facts but rather what i think will occur regarding online adult content.

Regarding filters, if some countries want to filter then so be it, why wouldn't anyone want adult sites out of the main stream .com and get it away from accidental viewing? If you type in a female name in .com who knows what your getting, but if you type a female name in .xxx i think you have a good idea.

No one is going to sway my thoughts I do feel .xxx will have value!

 

[Kate]

Some would argue that if the new gTLDs shift mainstream acceptance of .COM alternatives, .XXX values should be going up, not dilute.

Of course, that's the whole point. But alternatives have been available for more than a decade. So far people have shunned them. Granted, the choice is limited and the strings currently available (biz aero coop museum etc) aren't that great. The restrictions don't help neither, nor the fact that the mainstream registrars do not carry them. But new TLDs will be facing the very same problems.
Today I could get a .travel or .jobs, doesn't mean I want one. Tomorrow I won't want a .tourism or .work.

The thing is .xxx will be the legitimate safe adult area while .com's will become the underground dog poop eating type of sites and will be considered unsafe. Not to mention the issues around security in the .com adult world.

Well it's always the same old argument: .com is unsafe because everybody can get one. Yet restricted TLDs have never been popular. End users don't feel that they need a restricted TLD to look credible. In fact, it's probably worse, because consumers are not familiar with the extensions like .jobs or .travel, so they are more likely to be suspicious.

Now more specific to the adult industry, the adult webmasters generally don't invest in quality domains, in fact they tend to use low-quality/throwaway domain names. They are not looking for credibility in their URLs.

The latecomers (not you in particular) cherish the hope that another TLD will take over .com and that their investments will pay off.
Reality:

• the value of .com has continued to increase in spite of new extensions being added to the root every year
• ccTLDs have soared too, they have actually been gaining ground over .com (it's not a zero sum game)
• on the other hand the post-2000 TLDs have experienced declining market shares

The trend is very clear: .com (for global use) + ccTLD (for local use). This is the whole picture you get looking at the past decade. The future is not the past, but some fundamentals remain equally valid.

in 5 years you will see .xxx taking hold.

You can already revisit the old official .tel .mobi .asia .co .eu .la .etc threads.
The same points are always made.

I wrote this piece about .xxx a while back: http://www.namenewsletter.com/index...A-survey-of-the-.xxx-zone-file:-the-aftermath
It's not fresh but until I find the time to post an update I think it is still very relevant today. Besides, there has not been much growth in registrations since then. Interest in .xxx is extremely low.
Since you seem to have high hopes in .xxx, just look at the present before you speculate on the future.
The real trends are alarming and bad omen, and this is a shape of the things to come in future extensions.

 

[McDuke]

That doesn't even make sense. So it's only family friendly porn on .xxx not any of that weird, fetish stuff? .xxx, It's Safe Porn. Is that their slogan and I missed it? It's not going to be taking hold of anything, it'll probably be eating that poop you mentioned.

I never said it would be family friendly you said that. I never said that there wont be fetishes in .xx either. Safe porn meaning less maleware etc if that's the term. You're putting a lot of words in my posts.

If you like to eat poop hey it's a free world.

Time will tell how the online adult industry transforms but to say it will always remain the same as it is today is incorrect imo.

 

[Keith]

to say it will always remain the same as it is today is incorrect imo.

You could say that about anything.

The fact is that it is what it is today and hasn't changed for decades. A few new extensions aren't going to change that. Do you think all car related sites will be forced to use .car or .auto in the future? :lol:

 

[McDuke]

I'll have to say i respect your opinion sdsinc, I also think .com will be the main international extension forever. Could it fade away? Possibly, but i highly doubt it.

I think .xxx a good tool to direct adult users to a specific place and not have it in the open market for all ages to see. Sure prying eyes will find it but having a .xxx extension it will be easier to filter.

Of course, that's the whole point. But alternatives have been available for more than a decade. So far people have shunned them.

Yes they have and in .xxx in particular lets ask our selves why.

- are once valuable .com adult domain names going to lose value if .xxx become an industry standard? I think yes

- are click revenues going to decline because filters don't allow people to watch porn at work, to view adult content in regions where beliefs don't allow for it, and where parents can easily block it from prying eyes? I think so

- are company costs going to go up due to the increase in registration fee's and the time to re develop in .xxx? i think yes

- will over night adult sites with potential harmful software lose potential victims? i think yes

Now more specific to the adult industry, the adult webmasters generally don't invest in quality domains, in fact they tend to use low-quality/throwaway domain names. They are not looking for credibility in their URLs.

I think by moving adult sites to .xxx this will give the adult industry more credibility and allow for better monitoring.

The latecomers (not you in particular) cherish the hope that another TLD will take over .com and that their investments will pay off.

Yes they do just as the old dogs don't want to see the value of their .coms to decrease.

Reality:

• the value of .com has continued to increase in spite of new extensions being added to the root every year
• ccTLDs have soared too, they have actually been gaining ground over .com (it's not a zero sum game)
• on the other hand the post-2000 TLDs have experienced declining market shares

The trend is very clear: .com (for global use) + ccTLD (for local use). This is the whole picture you get looking at the past decade. The future is not the past, but some fundamentals remain equally valid.

You can already revisit the old official .tel .mobi .asia .co .eu .la .etc threads.

You can talk about the old crappy post 2000 tdl's all you want it is irrelevant because this new wave of extensions is going to change the way people look at the internet. It's not going to be a .com only world anymore.

I wrote this piece about .xxx a while back: http://www.namenewsletter.com/index...A-survey-of-the-.xxx-zone-file:-the-aftermath
It's not fresh but until I find the time to post an update I think it is still very relevant today. Besides, there has not been much growth in registrations since then. Interest in .xxx is extremely low.
Since you seem to have high hopes in .xxx, just look at the present before you speculate on the future.
The real trends are alarming and bad omen, and this is a shape of the things to come in future extensions.

No you can not look at the present because it is a changing uncertain time for domains, no one knows what will become of .shop or .web or .menu or .consulting or .xxx in 20 years. The generation who grows up with 1000's of extension will think of this as a norm not like we think today of there only being one and that's .com.

I like your article it was interesting and i think those are expected results this early in the game.

These are my views, I am not a pro and i respect all comments from knowledgeable / experienced people in the industry.

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You could say that about anything.

The fact is that it is what it is today and hasn't changed for decades. A few new extensions aren't going to change that. Do you think all car related sites will be forced to use .car or .auto in the future? :lol:

Really, this is your argument?

 

[Keith]

That's the logic you're using. New extensions will thrive because of forced change by outside influences, women's groups, religious... So technically, any group can lobby to force companies to use extensions that resemble their business. The thing is, .com resembles every business on a global scale so no need for all the wishful thinking.

 

[McDuke]

That's the logic you're using. New extensions will thrive because of forced change by outside influences, women's groups, religious... So technically, any group can lobby to force companies to use extensions that resemble their business. The thing is, .com resembles every business on a global scale so no need for all the wishful thinking.

Historically these are the major players who develop change and laws.

I would like you to tell me why adult sites should be scrapped from .xxx and left forever in easily accessible .com's .

The old argument .com is king because of all the registrations and interest and is meant for all industries doesn't cut it. When the current system was developed initially i don't think people knew what it would become.

 

[Keith]

Historically these are the major players who develop change and laws.

I would like you to tell me why .xxx should be scrapped and left forever in easily accessible .com's .

The market dictates what gets scrapped and it's clearly spoken. Extensions like .pw, .biz, .xxx, .im and tons of others aren't going to magically have value one day. They came and have been dismissed. Time isn't going to change that and as history repeats itself, almost every new tld will be dismissed too!

 

[McDuke]

The market dictates what gets scrapped and it's clearly spoken. Extensions like .pw, .biz, .xxx, .im and tons of others aren't going to magically have value one day. They came and have been dismissed. Time isn't going to change that and as history repeats itself, almost every new tld will be dismissed too!

We will see, I plan on keeping my premium names long term and plan on securing the .adult, .sex and .porn as well! ICM registry allows priority registration for their other adult sites for .xxx holders.

How do you lump .xxx in with .im, .biz and .pw?

 

[Kate]

No you can not look at the present because it is a changing uncertain time for domains, no one knows what will become of .shop or .web or .menu or .consulting or .xxx in 20 years. The generation who grows up with 1000's of extension will think of this as a norm not like we think today of there only being one and that's .com.

This is what I am trying to explain. Nobody grows up surrounded with 1000's of extensions

It doesn't matter if we have 5000 TLDs tomorrow, or just under 300 like today. Because only a few will really have any relevance.
Ask your friends or colleagues to quote all the extensions they are familiar with, usually you will be lucky if they can quote a dozen extensions (including ccTLDs of neighboring countries).
People already know that a lot of TLDs exist, but they don't which ones. Tomorrow will be no different.

Today .com has more than 110 million regs. I think it will continue to grow, but at a slower pace. I don't believe it's going to shrink, for that to happen domain holders would have to ditch their .com and flock en masse to other extensions. I don't see this happen, as there is no clear incentive.
Even in some remote future it is extremely unlikely that another extension, whatever it is, will attain 110M regs or more. Therefore I conclude that .com is going to remain the biggest TLD.
Likewise .berlin or .bremen will never have the volume of .de (15+ millions regs).
These are niche TLDs.

The TLDs that you mentioned as examples are not all purpose TLDs, they are niche TLDs too.
Unless I run a restaurant I have no use for .menu. .consulting is only good for consulting companies etc.

I think it's unnecessary fragmentation and these extensions restrict your scope.
The strength of .com is that it is very generic in nature and be used for anything. As for the ccTLDs they define markets with clear boundaries and local end users can identify with them.

 

[McDuke]

This is what I am trying to explain. Nobody grows up surrounded with 1000's of extensions

It doesn't matter if we have 5000 TLDs tomorrow, or just under 300 like today. Because only a few will really have any relevance.
Ask your friends or colleagues to quote all the extensions they are familiar with, usually you will be lucky if they can quote a dozen extensions (including ccTLDs of neighboring countries).
People already know that a lot of TLDs exist, but they don't which ones. Tomorrow will be no different.

Today .com has more than 110 million regs. I think it will continue to grow, but at a slower pace. I don't believe it's going to shrink, for that to happen domain holders would have to ditch their .com and flock en masse to other extensions. I don't see this happen, as there is no clear incentive.
Even in some remote future it is extremely unlikely that another extension, whatever it is, will attain 110M regs or more. Therefore I conclude that .com is going to remain the biggest TLD.
Likewise .berlin or .bremen will never have the volume of .de (15+ millions regs).
These are niche TLDs.

The TLDs that you mentioned as examples are not all purpose TLDs, they are niche TLDs too.
Unless I run a restaurant I have no use for .menu. .consulting is only good for consulting companies etc.

I think it's unnecessary fragmentation and these extensions restrict your scope.
The strength of .com is that it is very generic in nature and be used for anything. As for the ccTLDs they define markets with clear boundaries and local end users can identify with them.

I have never said .com wont be king but i think .xxx could take the adult market share "later" down the road. I will say that i think 3 word .coms value / interest will drop. Brandables in .com will continue to have value.

I know many consultants who could be grabbing or looking to grab .consulting names, i am one of them. also client has already mentioned interest.

.menu "i think food is a big industry" and there could be software.menu, shoe.menu, domainname.menu, xxx.menu, searchengine.menu, cloud.menu, server.menu, network.menu, etc.

If i asked the average person to name extensions here in Canada it will be .com, .ca, .net.

In ten years you ask the same question, is it going to be the same? Probably not.

The one thing i find funny that people don't take into account is population increase. "The current world population of 7.2 billion is projected to increase by 1 billion over the next 12 years" http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=45165#.UtnOFrRlCpo

Now take into account that the largest proportion of the population "Baby Boomers" don't use the internet as extensively as the younger generations so think about those increases also. Also as technology expands so will international use in developing countries. Now look at .com availability, I highly doubt in 20 years someone is going to pay for a 4 keyword.com when they can reg a 2 word .menu or .shop.

Times are a changing

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqvUz0HrNKY[/youtube]

and followed by the theme song of tomorrow for .com only believers.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVdOQvx379Y[/youtube]

 

[BrandChimp]

New GTLDS are the past! .com is the only king!

Who thinks that .whatever will rank higher on search engine are living in the past.

"Search Engine Journal is out with a piece about the myth of keyword rich domains and their correlation to improving search engine rankings."

http://www.thedomains.com/2014/01/1...d-rich-domains-improve-search-engine-ranking/