opinion If you prick us (new gTLDs) do we not bleed

[Colin Campbell]

I am amazed at how many times I see a hosting company, blogger, or domain investor refer to "the legacy" domains as if they have been anointed by some higher power. Fast forward 100 years from now and I can't imagine someone saying pick a .org over a .club because it is a legacy tld. I can foresee a time where someone might say pick a .org because it is a not for profit, or a .club because it is a member site about a passion, hobby, or buying club.

There is, I admit, at this stage much greater mindshare for legacy tld's like .org and .net. Yet there also a number of legacy tld's that have not performed as well as .club.

Based on Alexa top 1 million sites (as of today):

.Mobi has 662 sites
.travel has 184 sites
.asia has 407 sites
.biz has 2948
.club has 2163 sites (after being out for just over 3 years)

How are we different from the legacy tlds and is it time we started treat all tlds equally based on quality of name and marketing.

If you prick us (new gTLDs) do we not bleed like all the other gTLDs?

Didn't think my high school required reading of Shakespeare would ever come in handy.

Colin Campbell,
CEO .CLUB Domains

 

[HotKey]

Registry asks:

How are we different from the legacy tlds and is it time we started treat all tlds equally based on quality of name and marketing.

If you prick us (new gTLDs) do we not bleed like all the other gTLDs?

A solid reply:

With many other registries you have tiered pricing, absurd renewal costs, clawbacks, forced free registrations, and many other shenanigans.

The sheer amount of new extensions released and greed by many of the operators is the major issue.

As far as mindshare, there is only so much room in the average consumers head. They know .COM/NET/ORG and have seen then in use for decades now. There is not mindshare available for thousands of new extensions.

What say you, Operator?

 

[jmcc]

37% of .com in hands of domainers

What makes you think this?

Regards...jmcc

 

[jmcc]

I am amazed at how many times I see a hosting company, blogger, or domain investor refer to "the legacy" domains as if they have been anointed by some higher power.

Some people have a more focused view of the domain name market, Colin.
Unfortunately that view does not extend outside the Domaining business.

The phrase "Legacy TLD" means different things to different people. To people like myself who categorise usage and markets, it generally means the older gTLDs that are being overtaken by ccTLDs and some other older TLDs. It is common to describe a TLD where demand has collapsed or plateaued in a market as having gone Legacy. This means that the new registrations are barely making up for deletions or the TLD is beginning to lose market share. What happens at a country level when the ccTLD begins to take off is that its growth eclipses that of .COM in that market and the non-core TLDs such as .NET/ORG/BIZ/INFO become a lot less important. The bulk of the registrations in these TLDs tend to be legacy or veteran brand protection registrations.

There is, I admit, at this stage much greater mindshare for legacy tld's like .org and .net. Yet there also a number of legacy tld's that have not performed as well as .club.

There is a simple reason for some of those gTLDs not performing as well as .CLUB gTLD. They are niche gTLDs with limited appeal. The .MOBI sTLD managed to get overtaken by technology and the rise of the smart phone and other mobile devices. The .TRAVEL gTLD was meant for the travel business. The .ASIA gTLD was a regional gTLD where no strong regional identity existed unlike .EU ccTLD. (But that's a different mess.) The .BIZ gTLD was meant to be a business gTLD but the management drifted away from the original business plan. It is now swamped with Chinese/Japanese registrations and is no longer a major gTLD in the US/EU/CA/AU/NZ markets.

Based on Alexa top 1 million sites (as of today):

Alexa is not reliable and should not be used to draw any such conclusions.

In terms of usage (based on the monthly surveys), the .CLUB gTLD is performing like a non-core gTLD. That's quite good for a relatively new gTLD. The exposure to the Chinese market has affected quite a few new gTLDs due to discounting promotions and these registrations are not high quality registrations with good renewal prospects. Many of these discounted registrations end up with Lottery/gambling landing pages, webspam or worse. They can increase the zonefile count but in terms of user experience of the gTLD and its sites, they are completely toxic.

How are we different from the legacy tlds and is it time we started treat all tlds equally based on quality of name and marketing.

Marketing matters. The new gTLDs that are struggling do not do any serious marketing of their gTLD. If a registry doesn't market its gTLD, then people don't realise it exists and people don't register domain names and businesses don't develop websites in the gTLD. To date, the .CLUB registry has been very active in marketing the gTLD and it has helped.

Regards...jmcc

 

[GoKaizen]

People know about a lot of products, service, etc. That doesn't mean they buy and use them.

For the small amount of people that know about new gTLDs, few are ready to use them.

 

[GoKaizen]

Terminal doesn't understand or have "mindshare" for new gTLDs.

 

[jmcc]

Terminal doesn't understand or have "mindshare" for new gTLDs.

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Probably an older version of the jwhois.conf configuration file. Then again, Verisign borked the COM/NET whois parsing a few months ago with an unannounced change.

Regards...jmcc

 

[Brands.International]

Terminal doesn't understand or have "mindshare" for new gTLDs.

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It might be the case, but I am not sure this kind of information is really going to help you to sell your nice blockchain name

 

[offthehandle]

Speaking of nGtlds, today I noticed zunum.com—> redirects to zunum.aero.
Thats the first .Aero I have bumped into, but not like I looked. They should buy zunum.club for their investors.

Boeing has invested some money in this Seattle based venture it’s a small jet manufacturer startup. They plan to use electric motors instead of traditional high pressure gas turbines. Instead of fuel, batteries in the wings. Interesting development if it can be done, battery weight versus flight distance certainly is the challenge.
https://www.thestar.com/business/20...put-electric-planes-into-service-by-2022.html

 

[Dream Domains]

We forecast .club will be out of business by 2030

 

[frank-germany]

We forecast .club will be out of business by 2030

LOL

 

[jmcc]

Speaking of nGtlds, today I noticed zunum.com—> redirects to zunum.aero.
Thats the first .Aero I have bumped into, but not like I looked. They should buy zunum.club for their investors.

The .AERO gTLD isn't really a new gTLD.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.aero

Regards...jmcc

 

[offthehandle]

The .AERO gTLD isn't really a new gTLD.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.aero

Regards...jmcc

Thanks jmcc for the info!, very surprised its back to 2001 same as .Biz. I need to go to your cool website and check out the stats of end user usage. Keep up the good work, your website is among about only 3-4 others are top notch reference guides. All domainers should bookmark it!

 

[Dream Domains]

There is no such a thing as a cool or top notch .nonsense domain or website.

Dot com is cool and top notch and country code domain names.

Do not fantasize in public.

 

[frank-germany]

The .AERO gTLD isn't really a new gTLD.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.aero

Regards...jmcc

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