I was so amped and now, the silence...

[Futurewizard]

So, I own about 300 or so domains. I've made a thorough Google Sheet which pulls in data using APIs and other sources. (If anybody wants the list, I can provide a basic CSV/TXT file)

Some of them are great and are appraised quite higher than my BIN/floor prices. I made the mistake of grabbing 75 or so .net addresses.



Either way, they are all just sitting on Sedo/Flippa/Dan/TPP with plenty of offer views and hits, and no offers. I've lowered my prices. my .net addresses are pretty much a blanket 25-35$ floor with a 75-150$ BIN.

I know this takes a while, but I feel like I'm missing something. I've paid for Flippa auctions but I haven't paid for any other services yet. I've considered a broker, but I would likely need a XX,XXX - XXX,XXX domain to make it worth their time.

My questions (feel free to answer just 1 or 2)

• Leave them parked on Sedo's Full Landing? (rather than Ads, Sales Crush, etc)
  
  
• Sedo is my favorite backend, but is Dan/Voodoo/Etc better for visibility? I'm counting mostly on 'walk in' or 'type in' traffic
  
  
• I've started creating landing pages for a few of these. This is a lot of effort (even with Google Domains' free sites). Is the effort worth it? Would 'MowCheap.com' be more likely to sell on a page with relevant ads, a landing, or is Sedo Parking enough? (ok that was like 2 questions, sorry)
  
  
• If I have a 300 budget to spend with... 3-5 domains... Where would that money best be spent? I'm considering DNAcademy as I really love his style of business.
  
  
• Am I stuck walking up hill until I make some outbound/cold call/emails? Are there templates/scripts?

I want to keep my expectations realistic and I realize this is not a quick process - it requires patience. I'm ready to spend extra money, but I budget to buy about 300 domains (which I did). I'd say 60% of them are below appraisal and just need to be noticed.

Thanks so much, and I'm reading several guides (and I bought a Udemy course). So, apologies if my questions overlap other threads.

Thanks for your time and happy hump day! Here's a peaceful otter if you took the time to read all of this! If not, enjoy it anyways!

P.S. here's a random sampling of 5 urls, nothing special - just 5

1. Immersives.co.uk (Immersive art/parks/museums are getting big - see MeowWolf.com)
2. FurZap.com
3. 2me4.com (decent backlinks, lots of parking traffic)
4. FitATX.com (Austin Texas - common abbrev)
5. 4tel.net (lots of backlinks)

 

[biggie]

please continue to give me advice. I won't get offended

Hi

that's a good attitude to have...
as it may take you farther, than some who take criticism personally.

imo....

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[nononsense123]

My preferences:
1. Name itself should be powerful enough.
2. Only inbound.
3. Only Dan landers, no other marketplace. Or you can do Dan+ Afternic Fast Transfer- this combo is more than enough. Cut all others.

 

[Futurewizard]

The problem is that you think there are some cool ways or techniques to sell any domain, and it's not the case, there is none.
Domain should be as good as possible in the first place (short, punchy, meaningful and to the point). People should like it and should think about this name, typing it in URL, looking for it. Then it simply doesn't matter what landing page you sell this domain with - Epik, DAN, Sedo. These platforms are competing for you, not for your customer. It's only a matter of design, statistics and ease of use - again, for you. It has nothing to do with your end client.
And please, stick with .com only, disregard any other tld, no matter how much you think you found some ''super cool'' word in another extension.
Also don't go for many backlinks but pointless name. Links - are SEO stuff, SEOs will never pay a 1000 euro for a domain name. If the name is good, you can develop links, ok fine, but these should never be a decisive factor.

Talk about a reality check! Yea, you're right on a lot of that, and yes, I do think there are cool ways to sell stinker domains. I'd say about 40% of this is an experiment and a way to learn SEO/Analytics and 60% money. Maybe 85% money, actually. Maybe 99%.
I am, however, developing some of the really bad domains either to make them somewhat worth buying, or to 'put makeup on a pig'. It may be a waste, but it's a learning experience. Thanks for this tidbit, if I could rewind, I'd probably buy about 250 less domains and take it a bit slower.

@nononsense123 , interesting about inbound only. I've been watching so much DNAcademy, and he makes it seem like outbound is the secret to success.

 

[biggie]

he makes it seem like outbound is the secret to success.

Hi

and how much did it cost you to get that impression?

imo....

 

[nononsense123]

"Outbound is the secret to success" in a lot of areas, domaining isn't one of them.
Robert Greene has a book "The Art of Seduction", there's a chapter called "Coquette". Most successful domainers, consciously or unconsciously, act like that

 

[Futurewizard]

I'll check that book out. Sounds like it covers a lot of diverse ground.

@biggie I haven't purchased anything yet lol.

 

[Samer]

You paid for Flippa auctions!!!

I wouldnt use Flippa, if they paid me.

 

[noneisnone]

@Samer i used to think the same then this happend to me last month listed a name there and forgot about it sold it on namepros a week after the sale i get a buyer for 3.5k lol made me realize to never underestimate a marketplace missed out on 3.1k

 

[Samer]

@Samer i used to think the same then this happend to me last month listed a name there and forgot about it sold it on namepros a week after the sale i get a buyer for 3.5k lol made me realize to never underestimate a marketplace missed out on 3.1k

ahh must be why their customer support team feels so rude and entitled. NOT a FLIPPA fan!

 

[noneisnone]

@Samer never dealt with the customer support ^^

 

[Futurewizard]

You paid for Flippa auctions!!!

I wouldnt use Flippa, if they paid me.

You're right. I did! Shoot

edit: and I regret it. (good work btw)

 

[DomainRecap]

If you are buying domains to sell at $75-$150, at an industry standard 2% sell-though rate, then the renewal numbers are going to bury you.

 

[noneisnone]

@DomainRecap are you referring to resellers ? if so that 2% Sell through rate might not apply if you are selling to other domainers

 

[DomainRecap]

I am referring to the OP, who is listing on established venues like Sedo and DAN, and has yet to get an offer. And unless you're referring to blowing sellable domains out at $10-$50, or listing them on soon-to-expire sites expecting similar prices, then I really don't see much difference in rates between domainers vs. end users.

I think the 2% sell-through rates takes into consideration all buyer types and that you are pricing them at industry-standard levels.

 

[zomainhacks]

If you are buying domains to sell at $75-$150, at an industry standard 2% sell-though rate, then the renewal numbers are going to bury you.

If you list at $75-$150 you will have more than 2% STR. I've seen that with decent quality domains you can get up to 10%-20% STR.

Fun fact, with (hand regged) domains priced @ $75-$150 I've noticed an higher STR on Afternic than on wholesale marketplaces.

Renwals still risk to bury you though. It's a fragile equilibrium and unless you have a small portfolio of handregged domains and the need to have cashflow, I don't advise to follow this route.

 

[DomainRecap]

If you list at $75-$150 you will have more than 2% STR. I've seen that with decent quality domains you can get up to 10%-20% STR.

I realize this if you're talking about "decent quality domains", but did you read his post and see the domains? These appear to be end user-level prices.

Either way, they are all just sitting on Sedo/Flippa/Dan/TPP with plenty of offer views and hits, and no offers.

 

[zomainhacks]

I realize this if you're talking about "decent quality domains", but did you read his post and see the domains? These appear to be end user-level prices.

Yes, my reasoning apply only with "decent quality" domains. My humble opinion is that OP should focus on what type of domains have market demand (at least from what I can infer just looking at that sample).

 

[Futurewizard]

Yes, my reasoning apply only with "decent quality" domains. My humble opinion is that OP should focus on what type of domains have market demand (at least from what I can infer just looking at that sample).

That's the plan. The problem is that I don't have a grasp on pricing as I haven't received any offers. I removed a lot of Buy Now's on DAN, and I'm starting most of these at 100-500$ bids. I've added to Afternic, as well. My cheap .net's (50-300$) are all on Sedo. Still learning, but trying to be patient. 2% sounds about right.

Edit: Sedo because DAN requires at 100$ min offer, and that's a lot for some of these stinker NFT .nets

 

[Mike Goodman]

@Futurewizard I suggest you ignore all of the above for the time being and start your learning process at the beginning. Looking at the five names you listed and the other one you mentioned within the descriptive text, what business case can you make for any one of them?

The only case I can see is for a local lawn care attendant who earns not very much. How much could that individual afford to pay for a domain name? Hand reg only, I'd assume. Is it worth buying a hand reg only to resell it at hand reg prices? Where is your profit to come from?

All of the theoretical ideas above are very fine if you have something to sell. If you have to explain why a name should sell it is not a name anybody will buy. The reason to buy a name is to name a business. If it is unattractive as a business name, why the hell would anybody want to buy it?

Get tough on yourself. In any speculative business, that is the only way to make decisions. Flaccid or flatulent decisions lead inevitably to losses. Domaining is speculative. Never forget that.

 

[Futurewizard]

@Futurewizard I suggest you ignore all of the above for the time being and start your learning process at the beginning. Looking at the five names you listed and the other one you mentioned within the descriptive text, what business case can you make for any one of them?

The only case I can see is for a local lawn care attendant who earns not very much. How much could that individual afford to pay for a domain name? Hand reg only, I'd assume. Is it worth buying a hand reg only to resell it at hand reg prices? Where is your profit to come from?

All of the theoretical ideas above are very fine if you have something to sell. If you have to explain why a name should sell it is not a name anybody will buy. The reason to buy a name is to name a business. If it is unattractive as a business name, why the hell would anybody want to buy it?

Get tough on yourself. In any speculative business, that is the only way to make decisions. Flaccid or flatulent decisions lead inevitably to losses. Domaining is speculative. Never forget that.

Thanks Mike. You're spot on about MowCheap. I can't expect a lot of money from a domain like that. It actually made me laugh. Now, if I built an aggregation service for local mowing, maybe.

I am trying to be tough on myself, and it's easier as I learn more. I'm already looking back 2 weeks ago and cringing at my decisions. This forum has been crucial. Flaccid and flatulent doesnt sound like a winning combo! I've made my bed and now I get to sleep in it (with a bunch of flatulent domains)... It's a lesson learned and a loss, and I hope to at least make back the registration costs. This is great advice and I appreciate you taking the time. I hadn't thought about this as speculative, but that's exactly what it is. My frame of mind is shifting as I learn more.

Y'all are a grizzled bunch, and I understand why, now. It takes grit to succeed in this business.