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HUGE DOMAINS SNIPING GODADDY CLOSEOUTS

Located in Domain Marketplace Reviews, started by wwwweb, May 6, 2019

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  1. DomainVP

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    I hear you, but keep an eye on where DishWorks.com ends up in 6-7 days.

    According to GD it had a previous sale of $1200 and was regged in 2001 so I was incredibly shocked when this went through to the closeouts.

    This one was weird though when it went to closeouts - the page itself usually says 'auction ended' when someone buys it but it was in limbo for 5 minutes or so. It was the longest I've seen a domain hang in between auction and closeout.

    Point being - these vanishing closeouts aren't HD for the most part. It's people with the know how or the API. If you have both then you can pretty much take any closeout domain you want.
     
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  3. DomainVP

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    Do you have API access?

    Well there you go. 100% Confirmed.

    The know how + API = the ability to clean out any closeout you want.

    This is how GoDaddy policy is jacked up.

    Sure you need to know how to program, or you could hire a developer (which Joe Styler has recommended in a previous post), but the inability to have API access completely disables anyone else from even having a chance.

    It's no secret I'm a developer myself, so figuring out the snipe is not a problem. But not having API access puts others at a significant disadvantage because it adds at least 3-7 additional seconds to the process that an API user can just skip over.

    So why can't we ALL have API access?

    This is what we've been asking @Joe Styler and the GD team for years, and to just flat out tell people that you aren't allowing access to something that gives a significant advantage is biased at best illegal at worst - especially on an auction platform.
     
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  6. DomainVP

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    My internet was extremely slow today too, damn Covid everyone is watching netflix ad it slows the local area pipe. I was cursing at my terminal, "WHY ARE YOU SO SLOW!" lol.

    You know there were at least 5-10 bots pounding away at that. I don't think you were lucky, you have API access plus an effective .NET bot. That was a well deserved win. Kudos.

    Just would be nice if we all had that same advantage.
     
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  8. uzver

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    At the very least, they should disable it until they are ready to open it for everyone.

    Considering my current success rate of almost zero, 60% is a silver bullet. :xf.cool:

    As to the rate limit issues, etc. At least you’re having fun doing what you like (coding, running the Terminal commands) and have some results. Refreshing the page and see nothing is not the same feeling.
     
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  10. uzver

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    Sorry if I made you think that way. I wanted to share my opinion from the other side of the wall (API access), and I didn't mean to argue with anyone personally.

    Perhaps, I'm just jealous :xf.wink:
     
  11. h2o

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    I am going to share some insights on my Godaddy bidding strategy :)

    I am also an eCommerce seller and a few times a week I manually search tdnam for keywords related to my niche. I purchase these domains by the dozens so that I could increase my branding abilities, marketing campaigns, direct traffic, and especially to keep good brandable names away from my competitors. I am the ultimate end-user/domainer duo :)

    For domains that have no bids I simply "Watch" the domain and make note of the ending time and time zone. I jot down the info on sticky notes as well as set my alarm as a reminder in some cases.

    I wait until about 5 minutes and 5 seconds before the auction ends before I manually place a bid. I have had great success with this technique. That way, I keep the domain away from the eyes of other domainers who use filters like looking at names with bids on tdnam itself or expireddomains.net

    These domains are worth at least $100 to me, and oftentimes they are worth at least low to mid x,xxx especially to me the end user.

    So as an example, I just finished an auction and got a nice name related to one of my main eComm sites for $12 by doing the "place a bid at 5 minutes, 5 seconds" technique. I would gladly pay at least low x,xxx obtaining this name. And just the other day, I got a nice brandable name for under $100. And that particular name actually had a sales history of selling for about $4,000 previously!!

    My 2 cents
     
  12. uzver

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    What’s so special about adding those 5 seconds? How did you come up with that number? 🙂
     
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  13. Keith

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    If you bid with under 5 minutes to go it adds time to the auction. At 5 minutes and 5 seconds no time is added.
     
  14. uzver

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    Yes, I know that. And I noticed many people (myself included) start bidding just between 6 to 5 minutes before the end. My logic behind it is that the listing won’t get an “extended” label in auction list.

    If I understood above post from @.h2o. correctly, when he bids at that specific time HD bot keeps sleeping.
     
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  15. h2o

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    Exactly, I have had good success with bidding as close to the 5 minute mark as possible. I do it all manually with no special software or tools. I am not sure how the HD bot is programmed but my experience proves that the bot doesn't bid on domains 100% of the time. And even if the bidder that drives the domain price up further was it fact HB, my experience shows that the bot isn't smart enough to look at previous sales of the same exact domain that is being auctioned!! It stops at the $50 to $80 mark making it still a very good value for resale purposes.
     
  16. uzver

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    Maybe you’re good at finding gems that HD bot ignores due to low GD valuations. :xf.wink:
     
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  17. h2o

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    You are probably right uzver. HD bot has a very simple brain. It stops at 5% GD valuation.The domain I got a few days ago had a Godaddy value of $1500 to $1600 but a past sales history of $4000 due to the extremely brandable nature. That's probably why the HD bot stopped at about $75 and I snagged a stellar name.
     
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  19. h2o

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    Does anyone know if HD Bot has a history of placing the first $12 opening bid at the 5 to 6 minute mark?

    There was this domain I was watching that had a Godaddy value of close to $3000 but no bids and I planned to do the "5 minutes 5 seconds" bid technique as discussed previously. Everything was good until about 5 min 45 seconds in when the first bid was placed. I have a good idea for the name so I eventually got the winning bid at $195 plus renewal. But I am wondering if HD bot also places first bids right before the auction closes.
     
  20. uzver

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    You can always check who placed the first bid by looking at their IDs (once auction has been completed and you were the participant). Known HD bots ids are 913932 and 913933.

    I personally haven't observed HD putting the first bid, but I wasn't paying much attention to this, tbh. Maybe others can shed some light.
     
  21. wwwweb

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    Why would the bot trigger a $12 bid and get attention on an auction, when it can snipe it in closeouts for $11?
     
  22. uzver

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    Totally makes sense! I forgot about the privilege I don’t have.
     
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  23. h2o

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    Tip of the day:

    HD bot will not touch any domains that have GD valuation of under $1000. But that doesn't mean that the domain is necessarily useless. For example, after hearing about how think.ai went for over $20k in the last week or so I hand regged thinksmart.ai. With my wonderful luck it just so happens that thinksmartai.com was in GD auction closeouts for $10. I just purchased it in the last 15 minutes. Undoubtedly, having ThinkSmartAI.com will help me sell ThinkSmart.AI in the same way that Shopify purchased both shop.app and shopapp.com.

    ~My 2 cents
     
  24. kriss05

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    HD bot is after sub-$1000 domains as well.
     
  25. h2o

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    The more we share, the more we know. If that is true, perhaps HD bot has certain parameters in place such as not going for domains that have more than 10 letters or more than 2 words combined with sub $1,000 GD value. But in the case that I described above, the closeout is obviously worth it since I have the .ai/.com combo and looking to flip for x,xxx
     

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