strategy How to Find Potential End Users?

[shilmy]

Hi,

Do any of you has regularly sell your domain to end users? If so, do you mind share with me in this thread on how find potential end users for your domain?

Regards,
Sjarief

 

[ibidu]

... but if you're only expecting low $xxx for a name it might be worth including a price! Otherwise people might assume you're another of those greedy domainers wanting half a million dollars for every one of their domains.

Fixed prices sometimes make ya wonder if you could've bargained for more, but I'll take a 22000% ROI any day!

So I take it that you managed to flip a name which you'd paid $1 for $220? That's fab going :bingo:

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You know he means the phone book right?

Now you ruined a good joke

 

[Dotmainer]

Personally, I'd never use a signature of any form with pitches. I tend to see a sig & automatically ignore the email. Trying to look professional is scammy-looking these days. NEVER try too hard to look like a pro. It just backfires on ya.

In some countries you are forced by law to include your adress/contact data in emails!
and at least i would not send money to someone who even not write name but nick in emails.

I would agree with you if we can say it's all about balance.
It's bad trying to look like pro but having that default (business) stock-pictures on homepage.
It's bad trying to look like company if you dont have one / or work for one.
On other side you should give enough info that buyer 'feel good' sending you money.

:imho:

 

[GiftedDomains]

So I take it that you managed to flip a name which you'd paid $1 for $220?

This is the best and fastest way. Find available names for 8$ or little more from Closouts and sell to endusers low to mid xxx.
I sold many domain names low xxx to endusers. Both in Germany and US. It takes a bit time (find them, prepare emails, etc.) but its much better than parking and hoping someone bids 60$ for it.

Usually a decision to buy a name for 150 or 200 is done very fast from endusers. Everybody can afford a name for low xxx. So they don't think much about it and just buy it. Even the poorest endusers can pay that money. Thats why there are more sales in this range.
Of course with Top keyword Domains or brandables its different Story but for average keyword domains with .net and org and sometimes a long .com , thats the way to go.

I sold some .info with hyphens for 100 - 150 Euros. No problem in Germany. I don't think its that easy in US though with .info.

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Maybe a reason i or some others have more success with end user sales is i have another Company (not dealing with domains, but steel, stainless steel, etc. since 10 Years in Germany with the legal form of "GmbH". I think in USA its LLC? not sure. Anyway, i send all my emails from this Company. And also book it with this Company. Because the reputation of this legal form is much higher than the usual "one man" company (or even private sale from bedrooms in pajama) which you launch with no costs. You have to pay minimum 25.000 Euros to launch a GmbH. I don't know how its in US but i think you have some similar forms.

The bad side is taxes, tax accountant, etc.

 

[000]

So I take it that you managed to flip a name which you'd paid $1 for $220? That's fab going :bingo:

Thank you for confirming that my math was correct

As has been mentioned, selling domains for $100-250 isn't that hard... if you have halfway decent domains and are willing to put in a lot of time. That doesn't mean "decent" by domainer standards either - some of the domains I sell to end users wouldn't sell on NamePros for $5. Forums are, in most cases, a last resort for selling if you're looking to get a decent price for your domains.

Usually a decision to buy a name for 150 or 200 is done very fast from endusers.

This is very true, when they bite they very often bite quick. A large percentage of the "sold" responses to my fixed price emails come less than 30 mins after sending my initial email, and I've had a number of sales within 3-10 minutes. It's always an especially nice day when you do this with a freshly hand-registered name. Does make you wonder how much more it could have brought, but hey that's the nature of fixed price sales!

 

[ibidu]

As has been mentioned, selling domains for $100-250 isn't that hard...

It would be interesting to see what sort of names you sell in that price range? Would you be prepared to show others?

 

[infmoney]

Lately I've been using Yellow Pages for finding potential end-users with nice results!

Nice! I've found plenty of leads just now with yp. Never knew about it, repped!

 

[12345]

Personally, I'd never use a signature of any form with pitches. I tend to see a sig & automatically ignore the email. Trying to look professional is scammy-looking these days. NEVER try too hard to look like a pro. It just backfires on ya.

I agree with this. I am just finalizing a deal now for a domain in the mid $xxx, and when I first emailed him, the first question he asked me is if I owned the domain myself or if another company owned it.

I do put my web development/design business information in the footer though. I think it is good for people to know that you have some credibility.

 

[000]

Anyone ever use html or graphics in their emails for better display when contacting potential buyers?

The concept of giving them a visual isn't bad but personally I'd probably do it on the domain/website itself rather than in the email IMHO. At least in my Gmail and Outlook Express, images are blocked unless I manually click to display them (privacy feature).

 

[lennco]

So then since everyone believes images are not a good thing then what about using templates or just tables in your emails to give the text some structure?

 

[av1atic]

So then since everyone believes images are not a good thing then what about using templates or just tables in your emails to give the text some structure?

Too much excess crap, IMO. My emails are no more than 70-80 words and have a pretty good reply rate. If:

-it's a good name that's highly relevant to their organization

-the email is properly presented (correct grammar, professional email address, phone number, etc)

-the pitch is direct, to the point

you'll have a good chance of interest. The most important part is gaining the buyer's interest and getting a reply. From there, you can provide data/information that reflects your domain name's importance and value to this individual.

 

[lennco]

Too much excess crap, IMO. My emails are no more than 70-80 words and have a pretty good reply rate. If:

-it's a good name that's highly relevant to their organization

-the email is properly presented (correct grammar, professional email address, phone number, etc)

-the pitch is direct, to the point

you'll have a good chance of interest. The most important part is gaining the buyer's interest and getting a reply. From there, you can provide data/information that reflects your domain name's importance and value to this individual.

The only reason I have suggested these things is so that the potential buyer believes that they are dealing with more of a professional and not some rookie.

Could make a difference in the offer you get.

 

[Archangel]

Tables lone aren't bad (no CSS or images or special formatting). But if you followed those rules, why would you use a table, anyway?

So then since everyone believes images are not a good thing then what about using templates or just tables in your emails to give the text some structure?

 

[SK1990]

I kept seeing recommendations to use isp email to decrease the chance of landing in the junk folder. so i gave it a try and sent an email from my isp to hotmail and lo and behold, straight to the junk folder

 

[Archangel]

I was told that some email programs see a domain in the subject & automatically mark it as spam. Dunno if this is true tough. If you have a domain in the subject, it might be marked as trash for that reason.

I kept seeing recommendations to use isp email to decrease the chance of landing in the junk folder. so i gave it a try and sent an email from my isp to hotmail and lo and behold, straight to the junk folder

 

[SK1990]

I was told that some email programs see a domain in the subject & automatically mark it as spam. Dunno if this is true tough. If you have a domain in the subject, it might be marked as trash for that reason.

My subject line was "Test" but I too have heard that. I think keywords from the domain would be a better approach.

In all honestly I have yet to even try to contact end-users mainly because I'm not sure how I feel about sending unsolicited emails. I guess I'll have to get over it though :gl:

 

[lennco]

I was told that some email programs see a domain in the subject & automatically mark it as spam. Dunno if this is true tough. If you have a domain in the subject, it might be marked as trash for that reason.

Then what do you suggest to put in the subject?

Anyone else experience this?

 

[Edward Smeu]

domain keywords should be in the subject ( ex. selling NamePros.com the subject is 'Name pros').

I didn't have any problem so far listed as spam(as far as i know)

 

[Kate]

If you want to reach end users you need to send E-mail from a clean IP address. If you send from a large ISP like Comcast the likelihood of your mail being flagged as spam is high. Avoid free E-mail too.

You want to convince end users they need your wonderful .com domain yet you are using a gmail.com address ? Come on

I would recommend using a domain name of your own, hosted on a shared/dedi server. Of course it must be on a clean IP block too.

 

[lennco]

If you want to reach end users you need to send E-mail from a clean IP address. If you send from a large ISP like Comcast the likelihood of your mail being flagged as spam is high. Avoid free E-mail too.

You want to convince end users they need your wonderful .com domain yet you are using a gmail.com address ? Come on

I would recommend using a domain name of your own, hosted on a shared/dedi server. Of course it must be on a clean IP block too.

I have my own sites that I email from using Thunderbird email client. I use ServInt VPS severs and I have several dedicated IP's that I use but I noticed when I send emails to one of mu AOL accounts it goes right to spam.

How can I tell if my IP blocks are clean?
How would I know if the IPs I have are dirty?
I like to know the history of them to see if someone who had them before me was abusing them with bad site and spam emails.

Thanks

 

[Archangel]

VERY good question. I'd be interested to know too, if anyone has an idea

I have my own sites that I email from using Thunderbird email client. I use ServInt VPS severs and I have several dedicated IP's that I use but I noticed when I send emails to one of mu AOL accounts it goes right to spam.

How can I tell if my IP blocks are clean?
How would I know if the IPs I have are dirty?
I like to know the history of them to see if someone who had them before me was abusing them with bad site and spam emails.

Thanks