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How to check premium renewal fees for new gTLD names

Labeled as debate in gTLD Discussion, started by lolwarrior, May 12, 2017

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  1. Brands.International

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    How to check premium renewal fees for new gTLD names?

    Situation : you are going to buy new gTLD name from another domain investor. He claims that name has standard renewal, but you want to be 100% sure. You also want to be sure that standard renewal will keep applying to you even after there is a change of ownership from him to you.

    Where and how are you going to check it?
    (please only members with direct experience, and no usual rants about "greedy registries" and unrelated bs, so we can keep this thread clear and informative, thank you :) )
     
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  2. mpls

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    Contact the same seller registrar and ask:
    "Hi, I'm going to buy xxxxx.newgtld domain and I want to know the renewal fees."

    If you want transfer out and you've your favourite registrar ask:
    "Hi, I want to transfer my new xxxxx.newgtld domain and I want to know the transfer fees and the renewal fess.".

    If they know the price immediatly they'll tell you, otherwise they'll contact the registry in order to have the exact price.

    Remember that there is (could be) big price difference from 1 registrar to other with new gs.

    Hope this can help.
     
  3. Brands.International

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    This is very good and common sense approach - I would recommend everyone to do it 100%.

    But is there some automatic way how to check it? Without human interaction with registrars support? As sometimes support is very nice and organized, and sometimes it is a total disaster - depends very much on registrar :)
     
  4. Kate

    Kate Domainosaurus Rex VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    I guess you can just simulate a transfer at the registrar of your choice. It should reflect the applicable pricing.
     
  5. dordomai

    dordomai Top Contributor VIP

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    try mrdomain.com - maybe this works (no idea)
     
  6. JoeE

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    This I believe is an ICANN screw up that resulted in this mess. They allowed the new registries to set different pricing for what the registry perceive is a premium name and reserve whatever they want, yet they did not force them to provide a mean to make this pricing readily available. In this day and age who really wants to call/contact the registry to enquire about pricing of a domain? The information should be available without calling. Some do publish a list of what they reserve and what they priced as premium but you have to hunt these down and look up your name. The least they could've done is add a new field to the whois record to classify the domain as being "premium" or not. At least you can check that and if it is a premium then contact them to know the price.
     
  7. Internet.Domains

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    I don't mean to sound negative on the New G's, because I am not, but the reality is that the renewal can change regardless of what it is today. So what is the point to check today's renewal it if it can go up 3000% tomorrow?..........This subject touches on one of the largest issues of the New G roll out.
     
  8. Brands.International

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    It is very good idea - this is what I always do with buyers in case of any doubts, before I even just think about closing the sale.
    But it also does not give us 100% picture - as when we simulate the transfer to find out, we get an idea looking at prices in shopping basket about how particular registrar "thinks" the renewal price should be - it does not need to be the same what registry responsible for certain extension has in mind - and if there is a disharmony, we will find it out only AFTER we send money - it will usually result to error "something failed, please contact our support". Then, we usually manually find out that there is a problem in synch between registrars and registry. Happened to me and other investors already, and not once :)

    So therefore I am checking here - maybe someone knows how to check this directly somewhere, on registries level (skipping registrars) ?
     
  9. Brands.International

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    You are right, 100%. But here, the point of checking premium renewal is to be responsible to our buyers. I, as seller, need to know exactly how high this premium renewal is for a particular domain which I am selling.

    Fact that renewals (standard) can go up anytime is true, but it is slightly different topic :)

    Btw, have you experienced a situation, when there was a premium renewal attached to the name (lets say 150 usd) and it was changed to, lets say 500 while the domain was registered? Just checking..never heard of that, but would like to know if something like that happened.
     
  10. Brands.International

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    Thank you for mentioning this - I know about them, but not sure from where they take their data, and how reliable these data are. I have written them email today to find out how exactly they do it - as when I tested it, I immediately found some differences between the data provided there, and the factual status of some domains I own..so not really sure...
     
  11. New.Life

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    Nice and simple tool:

    tldpros.com

    The price may vary depending on the registrar.
     
  12. New.Life

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    (Rightside)

    Sean Ottey: In regards to pricing, how about renewal structures?

    Jebidiah Burnett: General availability domain names are just that. They’re going to have a standard registration price with the standard renewal. We then have our premium domain names where our premium names have a matching renewal to the registration cost. So if the domain name was $125 registration cost, it does have $125 annual renewal as well.

    The platinum domain names is where it gets a little bit different. Because of the value of these domain names and because of the opportunities that are available with these domain names, those renewal structures are fluid.

    More info: Webcast / Transcript
     
  15. HotKey

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    You should open a different thread for this..it's very interesting. Anyone holding Rightside domains? Because according to this, they think they know what's best for us as investors, have done all the necessary research into valuing a domain, and have come up with a pricing structure that's in our best interests. Premiums and now "platinums" are priced accordingly so we don't have to do the work.

    Essentially, they are attempting to sabotage the domaining industry by turning domainers into brokers.
     
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    Any other tools you guys discovered in 2018?
     

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