Holo vs VR vs MR vs AR vs any other reality (All realities)

[VRdommy]

Intel Project Alloy - A Must Read
http://www.pcworld.com/article/3108...first-open-source-third-party-vr-headset.html

The pace of change with new VR product designs is about to increase exponentially.
And while this is one thing to move that along, it's not the only thing.

...MORE...
http://www.trustedreviews.com/news/intel-project-alloy-vr-ar-merged-reality

 

[Elad n]

Mate, even if ‘Hyper Reality’ or ‘Merged Reality’ doesn’t become a thing, those domains won’t be worth zero.

A multi-billion $ globally known company has just used the term ‘Merged Reality’ to describe their tech, it will remain on search results forever, it’s a domaineers dream right there and why people are registering terms like ‘holo’ ‘avr’ etc hoping this will happen.

hyper? where did that come from lol .

merged will vanish soon , its still MR and MR will be known for Mixed so ...

 

[Kingslayer]

merged will vanish soon

I've agreed with that point I'm disagreeing with you is you said MergedReality in dotcom may be worth zero, I'm saying it won't be worth zero, is because of all search results on this term now Intel have used it.

A company may want to call themselves this to stand out from the crowd in the same way Intel have used the term marketing their headset.

I mentioned Hyper Reality because like Merged Reality, it's a marketing term more so than an actual new technology.

 

[Elad n]

I've agreed with that point I'm disagreeing with you is you said MergedReality in dotcom may be worth zero, I'm saying it won't be worth zero, is because of all search results on this term now Intel have used it.

A company may want to call themselves this to stand out from the crowd in the same way Intel have used the name marketing their headset.

I mentioned Hyper Reality, because like 'Merged Reality', it's more of a marketing term than an actual new technology.

well i wanted to make a point with zero , what i meant is that most cases the value will rise now and most probably decline in time , a short term opportunity imo .

 

[MetaverseBranding]

well i wanted to make a point with zero , what i meant is that most cases the value will rise now and most probably decline in time , a short term opportunity imo .

Me and you both know the potential with mixed reality.

A food for thought though. There is a possibility of two coinciding keywords existing to describe the same product/technology ?

Magic Leap & Microsoft use the keyword Mixed Reality.

Intel use the keyword Merged Reality.

Two keywords for the tech could come into play for domains ?

The big word I know is could.

But Intel spent a lot of money promoting the term merged reality. I can't see why they would use celebs etc in their promo video if they planned not to follow through.

 

[LucidDomains]

 

[Elad n]

Me and you both know the potential with mixed reality.

A food for thought though. There is a possibility of two coinciding keywords existing to describe the same product/technology ?

Magic Leap & Microsoft use the keyword Mixed Reality.

Intel use the keyword Merged Reality.

Two keywords for the tech could come into play for domains ?

The big word I know is could.

But Intel spent a lot of money promoting the term merged reality. I can't see why they would use celebs etc in their promo video if they planned not to follow through.

Merged Reality is not Mixed Reality. they promote it as an advanced VR .
A cordless VR headset that can also keep you in this world .
they are not ditching VR , they simply try to better position themselves in the VR industry.

 

[LucidDomains]

Forget for a second what's going to be bigger and dominate the market, we all know that MR/AR/Holo will probably be very large segments, but let me ask you all, very importantly, what actually sounds better in a domain name?

VR sounds the best of course I'm heavily biased, but a lot of you guys have domains in all niches. I have a few domains in MR, AR and Holo so I'm not completely out of these niches.

Does MRGames sound good in a domain name?
Does ARGames sound good in a domain name?
Does VRGames sound good in a domain name?
Does HoloGames sound good in a domain name?

Whenever I see "Holo", I tend to think of "Hollow" - meaning "empty" which is probably where the word originates from. "Holo" to me therefore has a slightly negative connotation. But hopefully in time when more big companies promote the hell out of these other segments, these terms will be just as good as VR.

So what is your take on this, purely from a domain branding / domain sounding stand point? Would like to hear other ideas on this.

 

[Elad n]

For now VRgames sounds better, no doubt.
Perception changes in time and future might sound different.

 

[doubleU]

Here's another reality:

Merged Reality

http://venturebeat.com/2016/08/17/up-close-with-intels-project-alloy-open-hardware-arvr-headset/

 

[Elad n]

Here's another reality:

Merged Reality

http://venturebeat.com/2016/08/17/up-close-with-intels-project-alloy-open-hardware-arvr-headset/

we discussed merged yesterday and today

some kind of VR+ added features ( see the world , cordless)

 

[VRdommy]

Virtual, Alternate, Cinematic, Cyber, Augmented, Hyper, Mixed and now Merged

None of them mean much for domains until it grabs the attention of consumer search habits.
Some will and some will for only a short time.

Probably never will see the end of new formats..
Do you really care what tech your TV has in it if you enjoy it (plasma,LCD,LED)
You still call it a TV.
If you were still holding names for a Plasma TV from 5 years ago, where would you be with it.
It did not matter that at the time it was a better tech. Same goes for VHS/Beta and then VCR's disappeared all together. CD's and DVD's are about to disappear. How long will 4K TV last ?
Hardware names & formats are a limited commodity and self dated to it.
Everyone seems to assume that something else even better is not around the corner.
The overwhelming majority of what I Invest in now is the Software Experience names that do not care about the format of the tech. They will have a longer shelf life for me and the end-user.

Not showing examples, except for this...
Holo names I mostly overlooked in the beginning (5 years ago for me and VR) with exception of a few very good ones, become a larger part of it because they are not format specific. Many newb's can't see that because they associate HOLO only with HoloLens type AR tech. Not a mistake I made reg'ing and that is not the only non format specific name.
And if these cross-format platforms develop well, all of it matters a whole lot less.
Minecraft will likely be the first BIG example of that.

If you lock yourself into a specific format for the 'majority' of your names, you have limited the number of buyers to it and perhaps dated to it. Don't think that 'larger' end-users are not also privy to that fact.
It's not to say there will not be a demand and value for many of them, just more limited.
I'm quite certain all will have some plays. Be careful how deep you go into any one of them.
As long as you understand that going in the better you will make decisions about it.
I know some think one format will beat out all other formats but even if that were so, for how long ?
You are witnessing a fast paced never ending evolution from the beginning.
Even 5 years from now, you probably will not recognize this market as to what it looks like now and I don't intend to hold format specific names (outside of keyword VR) more than 2-3 more years.
Many AR names I have had for 5 years. Pick fruit when it's ripe or wait for it to rot.
.........Just fruit for thought.........

 

[Elad n]

Virtual, Alternate, Cinematic, Cyber, Augmented, Hyper, Mixed and now Merged

None of them mean much for domains until it grabs the attention of consumer search habits.
Some will and some will for only a short time.

Probably never will see the end of new formats..
Do you really care what tech your TV has in it if you enjoy it (plasma,LCD,LED)
You still call it a TV.
If you were still holding names for a Plasma TV from 5 years ago, where would you be with it.
It did not matter that at the time it was a better tech. Same goes for VHS/Beta and then VCR's disappeared all together. CD's and DVD's are about to disappear. How long will 4K TV last ?
Hardware names & formats are a limited commodity and self dated to it.
Everyone seems to assume that something else even better is not around the corner.
The overwhelming majority of what I Invest in now is the Software Experience names that do not care about the format of the tech. They will have a longer shelf life for me and the end-user.

Not showing examples, except for this...
Holo names I mostly overlooked in the beginning (5 years ago for me and VR) with exception of a few very good ones, become a larger part of it because they are not format specific. Many newb's can't see that because they associate HOLO only with HoloLens type AR tech. Not a mistake I made reg'ing and that is not the only non format specific name.
And if these cross-format platforms develop well, all of it matters a whole lot less.
Minecraft will likely be the first BIG example of that.

If you lock yourself into a specific format for the 'majority' of your names, you have limited the number of buyers to it and perhaps dated to it. Don't think that 'larger' end-users are not also privy to that fact.
It's not to say there will not be a demand and value for many of them, just more limited.
I'm quite certain all will have some plays. Be careful how deep you go into any one of them.
As long as you understand that going in the better you will make decisions about it.
I know some think one format will beat out all other formats but even if that were so, for how long ?
You are witnessing a fast paced never ending evolution from the beginning.
Even 5 years from now, you probably will not recognize this market as to what it looks like now and I don't intend to hold format specific names (outside of keyword VR) more than 2-3 more years.
Many AR names I have had for 5 years. Pick fruit when it's ripe or wait for it to rot.
.........Just fruit for thought.........

Can happen with any tech, Even VR.
At the end, its all about the roi
Cheers!

 

[doubleU]

Virtual, Alternate, Cinematic, Cyber, Augmented, Hyper, Mixed and now Merged

None of them mean much for domains until it grabs the attention of consumer search habits.
Some will and some will for only a short time.

Probably never will see the end of new formats..
Do you really care what tech your TV has in it if you enjoy it (plasma,LCD,LED)
You still call it a TV.
If you were still holding names for a Plasma TV from 5 years ago, where would you be with it.
It did not matter that at the time it was a better tech. Same goes for VHS/Beta and then VCR's disappeared all together. CD's and DVD's are about to disappear. How long will 4K TV last ?
Hardware names & formats are a limited commodity and self dated to it.
Everyone seems to assume that something else even better is not around the corner.
The overwhelming majority of what I Invest in now is the Software Experience names that do not care about the format of the tech. They will have a longer shelf life for me and the end-user.

Not showing examples, except for this...
Holo names I mostly overlooked in the beginning (5 years ago for me and VR) with exception of a few very good ones, become a larger part of it because they are not format specific. Many newb's can't see that because they associate HOLO only with HoloLens type AR tech. Not a mistake I made reg'ing and that is not the only non format specific name.
And if these cross-format platforms develop well, all of it matters a whole lot less.
Minecraft will likely be the first BIG example of that.

If you lock yourself into a specific format for the 'majority' of your names, you have limited the number of buyers to it and perhaps dated to it. Don't think that 'larger' end-users are not also privy to that fact.
It's not to say there will not be a demand and value for many of them, just more limited.
I'm quite certain all will have some plays. Be careful how deep you go into any one of them.
As long as you understand that going in the better you will make decisions about it.
I know some think one format will beat out all other formats but even if that were so, for how long ?
You are witnessing a fast paced never ending evolution from the beginning.
Even 5 years from now, you probably will not recognize this market as to what it looks like now and I don't intend to hold format specific names (outside of keyword VR) more than 2-3 more years.
Many AR names I have had for 5 years. Pick fruit when it's ripe or wait for it to rot.
.........Just fruit for thought.........

The keywords 'Virtual' 'Cyber' and to a lesser extent 'Hyper' have consistent if not growing demand and sales for the last 10 years and over.

CyberWorks.com sold for $1,000,000 16 years ago, the term 'Cyber' is still very much in demand today and hard to see it diminishing anytime soon.

'Virtual' domains have twelve 5 figure sales reported on namebio, most of which happened in the previous decade.

These 3 keywords have much more generic meaning than the more specific technologies of VR AR MR ....

Although the number of domain sales overall might not please most investors, I'm pretty sure we have not reached the peak and I don't expect those 3 terms being abandoned anytime soon.

 

[hxp]

I can't believe there's a whole new thread for this... x)

 

[doubleU]

I can't believe there's a whole new thread for this... x)

lol

I can't believe it's September but next month I will !

There's so much going on with non-reality technology of late it's worth keeping abreast of the moves that the big players are making if you follow trends.

 

[cordoba]

Forget for a second what's going to be bigger and dominate the market, we all know that MR/AR/Holo will probably be very large segments, but let me ask you all, very importantly, what actually sounds better in a domain name?

VR sounds the best of course I'm heavily biased, but a lot of you guys have domains in all niches. I have a few domains in MR, AR and Holo so I'm not completely out of these niches.

Does MRGames sound good in a domain name?
Does ARGames sound good in a domain name?
Does VRGames sound good in a domain name?
Does HoloGames sound good in a domain name?

Whenever I see "Holo", I tend to think of "Hollow" - meaning "empty" which is probably where the word originates from. "Holo" to me therefore has a slightly negative connotation. But hopefully in time when more big companies promote the hell out of these other segments, these terms will be just as good as VR.

So what is your take on this, purely from a domain branding / domain sounding stand point? Would like to hear other ideas on this.

Well personally, I'll put the fact that a multi-billion dolllar company decided to name the product that they expect to replace the PC, smartphone etc with as the HOLOlens above your personal gut feeling that Holo doesn't sound right.

Even many vr startups/companies/websites/games are already being branded as HoloSomething.

 

[cordoba]

I can't believe there's a whole new thread for this... x)

It's about time. I mean it's annoying that we can't have this discussion in the VR thread where it would have more readers, but I guess at least this time the mods haven't just deleted the comments for being 'off topic'.

 

[LucidDomains]

Yes, but 95% of those readers don't actually want to read about it though. Where as in the Holo/AR/MR threads if you get tired of it, you unsubscribe for awhile.

In the VR thread, if you post in there is no way to unsubscribe from the other non pure VR topics.

So yeah I get your point to pump the other niches in the main thread, but there is a lot of people that simply don't want to read the bickering between the VR camp VS AR/HOLO/MR camp, day in, day out.

And thank god the mods agree too.

I'm happy to talk about all it day long with you in here if you want.

 

[LucidDomains]

Well personally, I'll put the fact that a multi-billion dolllar company decided to name the product that they expect to replace the PC, smartphone etc with as the HOLOlens above your personal gut feeling that Holo doesn't sound right.

Even many vr startups/companies/websites/games are already being branded as HoloSomething.

I had this exact mentality when I bought 200 Holo names when I first started in domaining.

Then I realised that I rather invest in something that is sought after by 5000+ startups, medium and large companies over that 1 multi billion dollar company.

Yes you are going to find a few companies here and there that can't get their VR brand of choice and go with a holo domain, as it's available for $8.99.

Unless you have some great, killer names. I would recommend against going crazy registering holo domains. Trust me I've been there done that. I know from experience.

 

[LucidDomains]

By the way I do like your Holo-TV(.)com, even with the hypen it is a keeper. So good luck with that one.

My best domain that I have left I think is

HoloCruise (.)com.


I also have a couple of brandables I like

Hologise(.).com
Hologize(.)com.

 

[cordoba]

Yes, but 95% of those readers don't actually want to read about it though. Where as in the Holo/AR/MR threads if you get tired of it, you unsubscribe for awhile.

How do you know this?

So yeah I get your point to pump the other niches in the main thread, but there is a lot of people that simply don't want to read the bickering between the VR camp VS AR/HOLO/MR camp, day in, day out.

And thank god the mods agree too.

I'm not in any camp. I have around an equal number of Holo and VR names. I'm not knocking VR names at all, I'm just highlighting Holo in the context of developments in VR. Most recently when somebody brought up Windows Holographic and Intel's 'merged reality'.

It's pretty clear that you are the 'one camp' guy. Don't wish to be overly personal here, but you come across as an autistic child. You seem fixated with rigid boundaries, completely unaware of subtleties and interconnections.

You recently sent me an abusive message out of the blue, to which I laughed off, now you're following me into this thread, although you claim no interest in the discussion. Why are you so bitter? You have some good names that should ensure your financial future. Just because we argue that Holo names have value doesn't mean that names like S**VR or CasinoVR wont.

 

[LucidDomains]

How do you know this?

When I don't report your off topic posts, other people do. It must be other people who are just fed up as I am seeing your hyping and pumping of other niches in "the main VR thread with more readers". If Holo/AR/MR were are cool as you think they are, they would stand on their own two feet and wouldn't need pumping and hype posting in the VR thread.

I'm not in any camp. I have around an equal number of Holo and VR names. I'm not knocking VR names at all, I'm just highlighting Holo in the context of developments in VR. Most recently when somebody brought up Windows Holographic and Intel's 'merged reality'.

Well you are in a way, by you posting your Holo/AR/MR talk in with the main VR thread, you're cheapening VR. VR is mighty enough not to need all these other sub niches clouding it up. There's a major difference between these baby niches and mighty VR trend and the mods and other people have created multiple threads to prove it by separating them out.

The VR thread has hit over 1000 pages and this pure VR domain showcasing and on topic VR discussion.

 

[LucidDomains]

You recently sent me an abusive message out of the blue, to which I laughed off.

I was tired of you disliking my posts for no reason. So I sent you this. I'll post it here for all to see:

Hey man, I thought we were past this crap between us. Whats the deal? Why dislike my post? Wasn't my advice right?

Later,

I understand if you haven't got the balls to talk it out like a man. When you decided to grow a pair, message me and tell me what your beef is. Until that time, feel free to dislike my posts as many times as you want. It shows me and everyone else that you're a little kid always throwing a tantrum.

Boohoo no holo domains in the VR thread. sob sob

 

[LucidDomains]

although you claim no interest in the discussion. Why are you so bitter? You have some good names that should ensure your financial future. Just because we argue that Holo names have value doesn't mean that names like SexVR or CasinoVR wont.

I have Holo/AR/MR names myself. I am interested, but there's a reason different niches have their own thread. As I said before I tired of discussing Holo sometimes and want to unsubscribe, but when you're pumping it in the main VR thread, that's simply not on. So I'm happy to talk to whoever about it in this thread.

now you're following me into this thread,

Hey scroll up buddy, you replied to MY post first.

My initial post:

Forget for a second what's going to be bigger and dominate the market, we all know that MR/AR/Holo will probably be very large segments, but let me ask you all, very importantly, what actually sounds better in a domain name?

VR sounds the best of course I'm heavily biased, but a lot of you guys have domains in all niches. I have a few domains in MR, AR and Holo so I'm not completely out of these niches.

Does MRGames sound good in a domain name?
Does ARGames sound good in a domain name?
Does VRGames sound good in a domain name?
Does HoloGames sound good in a domain name?

Whenever I see "Holo", I tend to think of "Hollow" - meaning "empty" which is probably where the word originates from. "Holo" to me therefore has a slightly negative connotation. But hopefully in time when more big companies promote the hell out of these other segments, these terms will be just as good as VR.

So what is your take on this, purely from a domain branding / domain sounding stand point? Would like to hear other ideas on this.

You quoted me and replied, therefore you're the one doing the following.

 

[LucidDomains]

Magic Leap will blow HoloLens clean out of the water. Microsoft know this.

HoloLens costs $3,000 and they have incredibly bad FOV.

Magic Leap is the future beyond VR.

Just my gut feeling, but again it could be hype, just like I believe HoloLens has been hype.

Until we see a working model from Magic Leap, we don't know for sure.

However Lightfield tech beams the imagery directly into the eye so I'm assuming there there's no FOV issues there at least.

I wonder what the pricing will be. If it's $1000 then that might be final nail in the coffin for HoloLens.

I'm just speculating here. I guess in time, we'll know for sure.