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Has the .tv market peaked?

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I think we are seeing numerous signs to suggest the .tv may have peaked. From what I can see of it, it is fairly common for relaunched/new tlds prices peak to at the time of the major auction, when speculator interest is at its highest, and you have a whole lot of people in the market who wouldn’t normally dabble in it. I’m not sure .tv will be an exception to this rule.

The only thing to change is there is now a large number of names in the market with genuine, real value, much like other extensions. In other words it is now on a level playfield in that respect but it is still only that, "level", not tilted upwards. The exuberance has carried over into a lot of unrealistic viewpoints recently in my view,

eg

-People claim this market is just starting to warm up and will be much stronger in a year. (we’ve heard that before)
-The idea that many of these premiums will be developed (of course that will never happen and is setting the scene for later disappointment).
-People talking about “trying to keep the momentum going” and trying to organize group auctions (as though this is an engine that constantly needs top ups of fuel to prevent breakdown).
-People talking about future .tv millionaires.
-World economies seeing another shock spreading out from Europe.


If you look back a month ago that really was a market with a lot of positive elements rolled into, many factors combining that may never be repeated.

So I put this question out there, do you think the .tv market has peaked?
 
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Why do you think Verisign won't release the actual data on how many .TV's are regged currently?
Because people would be able to see that the stats are not that rosy. And that .tv does not compare favorably to other extensions (hint: I would be shocked if there are more .tv registered than .biz). Hype and reality don't mix well :laugh:

The .TV is only third behind .COM and .ORG in consumer awareness Worldwide.
Wait. Outside the US ccTLDs are used extensively and even ahead of .com.
I can guarantee you I almost never visit .tv sites but I visit .com + ccTLD websites every day. Plus, you left out .net...
 
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I personally don't think the .tv market has peaked, we'll see more interest at both the reseller and end user levels as time progresses.

I also don't think .tv will overtake .net or .org or even popular cctlds in their country of origin, in terms of registrations.

In terms of brand value, it is better than .biz and .info and maybe even .net and .org for video / multimedia related content sites.
 
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Well then we should be expecting that number soon then with the way these .TV's have been getting regged. I have multiple lists that I go to everyday and re-scan. There are an awful lot being regged each day just with my little bit of homework.

Perhaps a little, temporary bump upward of new registrations of late ... but I have a feeling that Verisign continues to hide .TV registration numbers because it would be an embarrassment to them to have it published (much MUCH less - and very narrow band of demand - than believed), IMHO. :red:

haha,

Yeah tell that to RL who just pocketed 18K with Shoes.TV...
or the seller of Web.tv who just pocketed 50+K on a such a "cheap" .TV, LOL

Who purchased Shoes.TV; I've been checking Whois daily for an update?

Do you have a link for the "sale" of Web.TV (I believe that is in error, IMHO)? :blink:

Regards,
Jeff B-)
 
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Jeff said:
Who purchased Shoes.TV; I've been checking Whois daily for an update?

AYDIN KARADENIZ ([email protected])
+1.8058831000
Fax: +1.8058831002
115 W. FIGUEROA ST.
SANTA BARBARA, CA 93101
US
 
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Jeff is just trying to dishearten as many as he can for cover as he swoops up a few.
 
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Jeff is just trying to dishearten as many as he can for cover as he swoops up a few.

VERY funny you say that...

I was just having a phone conversation w/a member here and we were discussing EXACTLY that about both Snoop, AND Jeff, lol.

This is not a BAD or mean Post to the Mods, and or to Jeff or Snoop...just a potential observation of reasoning for our beloved .TV nay-sayers, hanging around so much lately in our Beloved .TV Forum.:)

Reverse Psychology.

.TV sucks, don't bid on ANY .TV's, The .TV extension future has no solid basis because...
Then Bam!
Sniper attack!

They HAVE both been around for a while.
It takes all kinds of different strategy's to get your positioning in on the GoldRush of .TV...

Hmmmm, We shall see in a year or so when they lay their cards on the table. :)
 
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VERY funny you say that...

I was just having a phone conversation w/a member here and we were discussing EXACTLY that about both Snoop, AND Jeff, lol.

This is not a BAD or mean Post to the Mods, and or to Jeff or Snoop...just a potential observation of reasoning for our beloved .TV nay-sayers, hanging around so much lately in our Beloved .TV Forum.:)

Reverse Psychology.

.TV sucks, don't bid on ANY .TV's, The .TV extension future has no solid basis because...
Then Bam!
Sniper attack!

They HAVE both been around for a while.
It takes all kinds of different strategy's to get your positioning in on the GoldRush of .TV...

Hmmmm, We shall see in a year or so when they lay their cards on the table. :)

Sad from several angles, firstly that people still cannot understand why some would be naysayers, secondly that people would ring each other up on the phone to discuss it. When you can't see the other sides opinion and instead see only conspiracies that is when you really should know you are biased.
 
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Sad from several angles, firstly that people still cannot understand why some would be naysayers, secondly that people would ring each other up on the phone to discuss it. When you can't see the other sides opinion and instead see only conspiracies that is when you really should know you are biased.

Snoop,

No one would ever call anyone for the sole reason of discussing anyone here. I agree, That would be sad. It started with an after market offer, and lead to a coupla silly things, thats all.

and to tell you the truth, I actually enjoy 90% of your Posts. Sure 10% piss me off sometimes but thats life. You participate more than most, So do I, we're both not suck-asses so we willl agree to disagree sometimes. Thats cool. Jeff, same scenario, he's cool and does have some points that he brings up that make me think sometimes too.

As a conspiracy, C'mon...If you or I sniped an auction, thats not a conspiracy, I just didnt talk about anything cuz I didnt want to hype anything I wanted, thats it. natural - No conspiracy, I've done it myself. lol

As for a little razzing once in a while, I think you like it. I think you like a good debate. That is not a bad thing, I guess I do too.

To say someone may actually like this extension or that one...so what?
I am starting to like .me hacks, which I despised from day 1. If you said...Hey this dot stop guy probably seretly likes .me cuz whatever I could give a shi!

Dont take this as a bad thing Snoop. I am sure you're a cool dude, and I plan on having a drink with you one day when we meet at a .TV Convention - LOL
 
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Snoop is bashing my .CO thread.

He keep telling us that it's like .cm, it's a typo of .com, it's for columbia and give no solid argument and now i see this on the .TV forum...

He's just an hardcore .COM fanatic.
 
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Snoop is bashing my .CO thread.

There is that 10% I was talkin about...LOL

Sometimes we really dont want to see people F-up with their money so I understand a little more thought rather than just spending with fleeting emotions. We all sometimes need a little balance.

You seem like a big boy though, and very persistent with follow thru for facts and stats of your reasoning for choosing .co - So I guess if you can shut him up, you are pretty right on, but if you can't, then give it some thought.

I will leave my thoughts of .Co for your thread, but the topic at hand is .TV and the future thereof...
 
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He's just an hardcore .COM fanatic.

He might have a good point regarding the .CO TLD.

In two to three years you will probably see this in terms of the TLD batting order: .COM, .ORG, .TV, .NET. It wouldn't even surprise me to see .TV in second place. I think it's time to dump .NET and invest in .TV.

That's my best guess after spending 15+ years in domaining. IMHO.
 
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I don't pay much attention to .tv, but it seems as though there is some renewed enthusiasm around here. However I can't help but wonder if the release of the premium domains and the excitement of now owning them is the only reason for this.

.... or has there also been a surge in serious developer interest?
 
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I don't pay much attention to .tv, but it seems as though there is some renewed enthusiasm around here. However I can't help but wonder if the release of the premium domains and the excitement of now owning them is the only reason for this.

.... or has there also been a surge in serious developer interest?

Yes, to both statements Dub.
Not many people were into paying premium yearly renewal fees pre-Mar.18th

So, yes now we/you/anyone Developers/Domainers et. can own category defining keyword .TV's for a one time fee, with a easy to maintain cost effective comparable renewal fee to most other extensions.

This new market is so new though, it would be impossible to give you a ratio of domainer .TV sales to Developer sales right now. In the next year that would be a good case study though.
 
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Guess it's true what they about those ahead of their time. Looks like Richard was about 4 years early.

The Legendary .TV Soothsayer

Excellent Video MicroGuy!

"The New .com"...
".com means web and U.S."
".TV means Video and Global"

Powerful statements from a Powerful Man.

Thx,
Vito
 
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However I can't help but wonder if the release of the premium domains and the excitement of now owning them is the only reason for this.

That is exactly what it is. Now that is a huge thing for the .tv market, but the in terms of development nothing has really changed. Still people will always overblow changes and take their significance to areas far beyond what is really happening.

In the space of a few months forum sentiment has gone from the extension being dead (with some even saying there would never be another boom) to people talking about how .tv will take over Internet, or at least take over .net! Alot more level headed middle ground talk is needed in my view.
 
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He might have a good point regarding the .CO TLD.

In two to three years you will probably see this in terms of the TLD batting order: .COM, .ORG, .TV, .NET. It wouldn't even surprise me to see .TV in second place. I think it's time to dump .NET and invest in .TV.

That's my best guess after spending 15+ years in domaining. IMHO.

Thanks for the comment.

Back in the year 2000, i was about to register my first domain name, so i did a search of the domain i wanted (a 4 letter word) and the .com and .org was taken and i had to choose between the .net and the .tv. I have chosen the .tv. Right now (10 years later), i still have the domain. So yeah, my first domain name was a .tv

Now, the .com, .net, .org, .biz, .info all gTLD and some ccTLD of that 4 letter word are taken and are parked at sedo.

So im thinking to purchase the .co version of my childhood domain.

I would have the .TV and the .CO of that domain.
 
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Excellent Video MicroGuy!

"The New .com"...
".com means web and U.S."
".TV means Video and Global"

Powerful statements from a Powerful Man.

Thx,
Vito

He said all that would happen within a year ie 2008, so those statement are hardly powerful.

I think people need to understand when you are being sold to, because it is a pitch, directed squarely at speculators, he evens talks about Namepros. He doesn't really think any of the above. His own development efforts have been squarely aimed at .com. He is on the "sell" side of .tv not the "buy" side.

The funniest bit is when the interviewer asks him at the end "when do you expect your .tv site to launch" and he directs people to richard.tv. Have a look at Richard.tv now and you can see how long that lasted.

Lastly take a look at,

Demand Brands | Demand Media

How many .tv's do you see on their page? This isn't a company that thinks .tv is the new .com. This is a company that wants you, the domain spculator, to think .tv is the new .com. Don't take any of this as criticism of Demand Media. They have played there cards very smartly, to the point where some people are still buying the pitch.

---------- Post added at 08:45 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:31 PM ----------

Back in the year 2000, i was about to register my first domain name, so i did a search of the domain i wanted (a 4 letter word) and the .com and .org was taken and i had to choose between the .net and the .tv. I have chosen the .tv. Right now (10 years later), i still have the domain. So yeah, my first domain name was a .tv

I wonder if you can see how that would have been a mistake? Today the .net would be worth several times more. (if it is a common word)
 
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