alert Got scammed by Mehmet emrah Gunes

[jameandrew]

Learnt a hard lesson today.Never deal without Escrow even if you have done trading with the same person before.

The issue is Regarding the domain KINA.com

Yesterday I got A PM from @Megist regarding the domain Kina.com whcih he wanted to sale it for $1250 and payment via BTC only.I replied back saying I am willing to buy so pass on the BTC address.I didn't got any reply from him,all of a sudden in the morning I was checking my mail and I saw the mail regarding Kina.com,he said he wanted to sell it off so lets proceed with the process.
Since his account got restricted in NP so I asked him these questions

Got the reply

Then a series of mail got exchanged below are the screenshots

So obviously He is not gonna pay back the BTC and wont transfer the domain.I knew I was taking a risk but since we have dealt in past so I showed faith in him and it was only .17 BTC..


Lesson Learnt: Never ever do deal without escrow.

His name and complete address


Seller:
Mehmet emrah Gunes
Halicioglu mahallesi Pestemalci sokak Yasam apt No 15 17 Daire 1 Beyoglu
34445 ISTANBUL
Turkey

Username on BlackHatWorld (BHW) is: mailingtr

 

[karmaco]

or never send bitcoin payment to a questionable trader. Can I ask why you have not taken this issue to the moderators?

 

[jameandrew]

Not yet,Will let the moderator know about it but it was my fault on showing trust on him.
Moderator have already made his account restricted.

 

[xrvel]

kina for only $1350 ? Too good to be true

 

[jameandrew]

kina for only $1350 ? Too good to be true

True..Thats why i thought worth taking risk specially when I have done the deal with same person before successfully

 

[gilescoley]

Rule #1 of Domaining: Never ever buy a domain using bitcoin, the scammers use this method because its so hard to trace

 

[SellDomains.site]

Lol when everyone was saying in thread that he is scammer no one would like to sell kina.com for $1200 . And his terms was also diffrent . You think you are over Smart that is the lesson for you . But Hope you will get money soon .

Regards

 

[wwwulff]

The price of a name like kina.com is significantly higher than he offered it to - It is a cvcv and in some languages the name of China (eg in Denmark where I live), so maybe the price should have warned you - When it is too good to be true ... I do hope you get your BTC again

 

[Rory Ivey]

I hear bitcoin is used also by criminals because it's hard to track like other methods.

That may be the reason bitcoin don't succeed in the long run. imo

 

[jameandrew]

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Lol when everyone was saying in thread that he is scammer no one would like to sell kina.com for $1200 . And his terms was also diffrent . You think you are over Smart that is the lesson for you . But Hope you will get money soon .

Regards

Agree.I thought he wont put his reputation at stake for .17 btc since he had 27 positive ratings.
Anyways lesson learnt

 

[Mahouni]

Btc is fine if you trust the guy and in future, I'm sure there will be blockchain escrows, but this is not the case to be sending money like that.

Yes the deal was too good to be true, but also I'm sorry to say it but a bit of world experience or even country racism helps here. This is normal Turk trading behavior, just go try to deal with the carpet salesmen in Istanbul. Most of the world believes if you're stupid enough to be taken for a ride, you deserve it and it's in their power to exploit every inch of that vulnerability in you and their gods allow that. So remember that when you're dealing with Arabs, Turks, Chinese, Israelis etc.

The only reason he is talking with you is that he still thinks he can keep you in hope that if you send the rest you will get the domain. You will never get the domain forget it, or the money. It's gone.

I know that there are many honest folks here from these countries who want to fight the stereotypes, but all I'm saying is be careful and though on these guys.

 

[MSN-Domains]

Successful domaning is like getting pregnant. Everyone congratulates you when you manage it but no one asks how many times you got fucked first.

 

[Asfas1000]

I had issued a warning in his thread......https://www.namepros.com/threads/super-cvcv-domain-kina-com.1042058/

with a link to another thread doubting his ownership of the domain.

 

[atinc]

He is telling the truth about Paypal in Turkey, I don`t know him and I assumed I am the only Turkish guy on this forum.

But this whole thing you go thru is so wrong. Hope you can get your money back.

Have you check the whois to see if he is the legit owner of this domain?

 

[jameandrew]

He is telling the truth about Paypal in Turkey, I don`t know him and I assumed I am the only Turkish guy on this forum.

But this whole thing you go thru is so wrong. Hope you can get your money back.

Have you check the whois to see if he is the legit owner of this domain?

I was prepared for this so not feeling sad about it.opened this thread just to let other domainer know that this guy is not legit as he will try to do same thing with other domainers.

 

[promo]

True..Thats why i thought worth taking risk specially when I have done the deal with same person before successfully

Dude thats when you DONT take the risk. When its to good to be true. Kina.com is a mid 5 figure domain.

 

[dhyane]

Successful domaning is like getting pregnant. Everyone congratulates you when you manage it but no one asks how many times you got f*cked first.

 

[DomainMagnate]

I got a msg from Megist too couple days ago, but it looked like an obvious scam. If someone offers you a vlauable and very liquid domain way below market price 99% it's a scam. I fwded it to @Eric Lyon and he later handled it and banned him. I think quite a few people reported it.

Note to all: if you get a pm or see a thread that you believe is a scam attempt be sure to fill out a report or notify mods, they are rather efficient at handling it

Also, an easy way to verify domain owner is send an email to the whois admin address and ask the seller to reply to it.

 

[jameandrew]

I got a msg from Megist too couple days ago, but it looked like an obvious scam. If someone offers you a vlauable and very liquid domain way below market price 99% it's a scam. I fwded it to @Eric Lyon and he later handled it and banned him. I think quite a few people reported it.

Note to all: if you get a pm or see a thread that you believe is a scam attempt be sure to fill out a report or notify mods, they are rather efficient at handling it

Also, an easy way to verify domain owner is send an email to the whois admin address and ask the seller to reply to it.

Yes,I just took the risk because I have dealt with him in past and bought 3 4l.com from him without any issues,never thought he would scam for such a small amount..

 

[jameandrew]

I got a msg from Megist too couple days ago, but it looked like an obvious scam. If someone offers you a vlauable and very liquid domain way below market price 99% it's a scam. I fwded it to @Eric Lyon and he later handled it and banned him. I think quite a few people reported it.

Note to all: if you get a pm or see a thread that you believe is a scam attempt be sure to fill out a report or notify mods, they are rather efficient at handling it

Also, an easy way to verify domain owner is send an email to the whois admin address and ask the seller to reply to it.

Also,Reputation is much more important than the money,if you see a profile with 27 positive reviews with 100% rating you will think that the guy is genuine and he wont scam you for such a small amount and put his all hard earned reputation since last 2 year for a toss.

 

[Asfas1000]

Also,Reputation is much more important than the money,if you see a profile with 27 positive reviews with 100% rating you will think that the guy is genuine and he wont scam you for such a small amount and put his all hard earned reputation since last 2 year for a toss.

His account was probably hijacked.

 

[Kenny]

Hello jameandrew,

This is exactly why we have these rules in place:

6.1.23 Transactions must be carried out on NamePros.com via public or direct messages, otherwise NamePros staff will be unable to assist with any problems that may arise. Conversations transitioning to off-site mediums, such as email, cannot be regulated by NamePros staff. Rule 6.2.13 applies.

We hope you can get this worked out.

Peace,
Cyberian

 

[Dominic Belley]

When a seller always has an excuse for not using any Escrow options, its a bad sign.
Can't use this for X reason ... can't use that for Y reason .. don't trust China .. blah blah blah.

 

[atinc]

His account was probably hijacked.

I don`t think his account is hijacked cause the attachment shows that OP talked him thru his personal e-mail address.

 

[Mahouni]

I don`t think his account is hijacked cause the attachment shows that OP talked him thru his personal e-mail address.

But is it his actual email?? Op had convo with megist @ hotmail.com and going by the name OP posted the actual domainer uses megbilinternet (at) gmail.com. Can you shoot the actual guy ande-mail in turkish and ask whats up?