GoDaddy Auctions -- Discussion, Acquisitions, and Sales

[Ms Domainer]

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I searched the forum and could not find a thread dedicated solely to Godaddy auctions, which seem to be heating up lately.

I envision this thread as a place for discussion regarding YOUR sales and acquisitions, and general discussion about the auction venue itself, and, perhaps, some domain oddities that are popping up on the auction site, for example, high-priced domains that should be regfee.



One caveat, though: for your own good, PLEASE do not reveal your auction win (or anyone else's, for that matter) until the domain has landed in your account because the original owner still has the option to renew it, and I know how vexing that can be. In other words, don't count your chickens until they're hatched.

On the other hand, if you're having second thoughts about your auction win, by all means tell us all about it.

I suppose that if an auction win is high profile, it's already out there, but, still...

Anyway, I'll start with three comments:

1. I won my first (and maybe last) intentional typo, and it's getting clicks (no $ so far, though): Forwx.com. I could not find a live TM on this term, but one never knows. I have mixed feelings about this one.

2. I accidentally clicked on a BIN that I didn't want (I wanted the one above it), but I decided to honor the bid anyway. Grrr..., so be careful before hitting the submit button. It's not in my account yet, so I can't really reveal it right now.

3. Currently, there's a weird .co domain at over $9,000, with three bidders duking it out. Again, I don't want to reveal what it is, but if you go to the most active auctions, it's number 1 (as of this posting).​

Mods, I hope this thread is okay.



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[snailman]

LAblogs.com--went for over $1580 last Friday on godaddy expired auctions. Can somebody tell me why? Is PR4 and 67K backlinks really worth that much?

 

[NPer]

LAblogs.com--went for over $1580 last Friday on godaddy expired auctions. Can somebody tell me why? Is PR4 and 67K backlinks really worth that much?

People who buy these kinda domains take a lot of risk. They don't care much for the domain name itself, if it's quality or not. For $1580 you can get a much better domain.

The guys who buy these kinda names only care about the PR number and how much thousand backlinks it has. Their aim is to monetize the traffic quickly, and hopefully make some profit. If their expectations were too high and make little or nothing from the domain, they can't expect to flip the domain easily to break even. Sometimes the domain is so bad, you wonder why it's in existence! No wonder why the previous owner let it go.

 

[snailman]

People who buy these kinda domains take a lot of risk. They don't care much for the domain name itself, if it's quality or not. For $1580 you can get a much better domain.

The guys who buy these kinda names only care about the PR number and how much thousand backlinks it has. Their aim is to monetize the traffic quickly, and hopefully make some profit. If their expectations were too high and make little or nothing from the domain, they can't expect to flip the domain easily to break even. Sometimes the domain is so bad, you wonder why it's in existence! No wonder why the previous owner let it go.

if i understand correctly, the previous owner bought it for $600 from Sedo. It was somekinda big blog aggregator in LA area in 2001-2007. Traffic? What kind of traffic can be there if there is no Alexa number for this domain, and previous was in 22mln or so?

 

[NPer]

if i understand correctly, the previous owner bought it for $600 from Sedo. It was somekinda big blog aggregator in LA area in 2001-2007. Traffic? What kind of traffic can be there if there is no Alexa number for this domain, and previous was in 22mln or so?

I'm not sure about the domain in question... but was commenting on domains with high PR and large amount of back links which you referred to.

How was PR maintained if the site went down in 2007? Is it then not a fake PR?

If not for the traffic, then for development.... and you have to re-create the pages as they once were, just to maintain those stats. Seems like a lot of work which could also end up with you infringing on someone else copyright.

What else could the person buying it benefit from?

You do know that as these kinda names are flipped from domainer to domainer, those back links eventually become useless. Also, the domain loses it's PR.

Btw, don't go by Alexa ranking to determine traffic. I have a domain with an Alexa rank of about 5 Mill, but does not receive traffic any where close to another domain which doesn't have an Alexa rank at all!!

 

[snailman]

How was PR maintained if the site went down in 2007? Is it then not a fake PR?

my guess, really a lot of backlinks from 200 or something domains including .edu

Btw, don't go by Alexa ranking to determine traffic. I have a domain with an Alexa rank of about 5 Mill, but does not receive traffic any where close to another domain which doesn't have an Alexa rank at all!!

i guess public ( or even a frequent visitor ) with alexa toolbars vs public with none.

 

[utomo]

I did not get anymore explanation from godaddy.
and today I receive this email.

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DOMAIN CONTACT UPDATE
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Dear Utomo Widjaja,

Changes to your registrant and/or administrative contact information have been initiated for the domain name(s) listed below:

ISLAMDAILY.COM

If the changes were in error, please contact [email protected].

If the changes were unauthorized, please contact [email protected].

Sincerely,
GoDaddy
http://www.godaddy.com/default.aspx?prog_id=GoDaddy&isc=gdbbx1728


New whois

Domain Name: ISLAMDAILY.COM
Registrar URL: http://www.wildwestdomains.com
Updated Date: 2013-10-17 15:15:28
Creation Date: 2000-08-31 00:44:56
Registrar Expiration Date: 2014-08-31 00:44:56
Registrar: Wild West Domains, LLC
Reseller: GoDaddy
Domain Status: clientDeleteProhibited
Domain Status: clientRenewProhibited
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited
Domain Status: clientUpdateProhibited
Registrant Name: Jeffrey Hovermale
Registrant Organization: Sovereign Wealth Management Group, Inc.
Registrant Street: 1569 Westover Loop
Registrant City: Heathrow
Registrant State/Province: Florida
Registrant Postal Code: 32746
Registrant Country: United States
Admin Name: Jeffrey Hovermale
Admin Organization: Sovereign Wealth Management Group, Inc.
Admin Street: 1569 Westover Loop
Admin City: Heathrow
Admin State/Province: Florida
Admin Postal Code: 32746
Admin Country: United States
Admin Phone: +1.4074445990
Admin Fax: +1.8885394015
Admin Email: [email protected]
Tech Name: Jeffrey Hovermale
Tech Organization: Sovereign Wealth Management Group, Inc.
Tech Street: 1569 Westover Loop
Tech City: Heathrow
Tech State/Province: Florida
Tech Postal Code: 32746
Tech Country: United States
Tech Phone: +1.4074445990
Tech Fax: +1.8885394015
Tech Email: [email protected]
Name Server: NS63.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
Name Server: NS64.DOMAINCONTROL.COM

 

[lennco]

I did not get anymore explanation from godaddy.
and today I receive this email.

==========================================
DOMAIN CONTACT UPDATE
==========================================


Dear Utomo Widjaja,

Changes to your registrant and/or administrative contact information have been initiated for the domain name(s) listed below:

ISLAMDAILY.COM

If the changes were in error, please contact [email protected].

If the changes were unauthorized, please contact [email protected].

Sincerely,
GoDaddy
http://www.godaddy.com/default.aspx?prog_id=GoDaddy&isc=gdbbx1728


New whois

Domain Name: ISLAMDAILY.COM
Registrar URL: http://www.wildwestdomains.com
Updated Date: 2013-10-17 15:15:28
Creation Date: 2000-08-31 00:44:56
Registrar Expiration Date: 2014-08-31 00:44:56
Registrar: Wild West Domains, LLC
Reseller: GoDaddy
Domain Status: clientDeleteProhibited
Domain Status: clientRenewProhibited
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited
Domain Status: clientUpdateProhibited
Registrant Name: Jeffrey Hovermale
Registrant Organization: Sovereign Wealth Management Group, Inc.
Registrant Street: 1569 Westover Loop
Registrant City: Heathrow
Registrant State/Province: Florida
Registrant Postal Code: 32746
Registrant Country: United States
Admin Name: Jeffrey Hovermale
Admin Organization: Sovereign Wealth Management Group, Inc.
Admin Street: 1569 Westover Loop
Admin City: Heathrow
Admin State/Province: Florida
Admin Postal Code: 32746
Admin Country: United States
Admin Phone: +1.4074445990
Admin Fax: +1.8885394015
Admin Email: [email protected]
Tech Name: Jeffrey Hovermale
Tech Organization: Sovereign Wealth Management Group, Inc.
Tech Street: 1569 Westover Loop
Tech City: Heathrow
Tech State/Province: Florida
Tech Postal Code: 32746
Tech Country: United States
Tech Phone: +1.4074445990
Tech Fax: +1.8885394015
Tech Email: [email protected]
Name Server: NS63.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
Name Server: NS64.DOMAINCONTROL.COM

So that info is the new owner right?

Because here is an old Whois info that I found

Whois Record
Registrant:
T Ghanma
1030 E. Elcamino Real #210
Sunnyvale, California 94087
United States

Registered through: Domain Charter Network
Domain Name: ISLAMDAILY.COM
Created: 31-Aug-00
Expires: 31-Aug-11
Updated: 08-Sep-10

Administrative Contact:
ghanma, t

1030 E. Elcamino Real #210
sunnyvale, California 94087
United States
+1.4083062126 Fax -

Technical Contact:
Ghanma, T

1030 E El Camino Real #210
Sunnyvale, California 94087
United States
+1.087712534 Fax -

Name Servers:
NS45.DOMAINCONTROL.COM

I am wondering if the New owner is really the old owner? And not someone who just wanted your domain Hhmmmm

 

[utomo]

Thanks lennco,

I still did not getting any explanation from godaddy regarding the system error.
so it look like it is not old owner renewing it.
all data is different to new ones.

so I did not understand what is the reason Godaddy do this ?

 

[Name Trader]

You should send them the copies of the whois and ask for an explanation why the whois of the previous/new owner are different, and what sort of "error" could cause that. This is looking more suspicious, for me.

 

[utomo]

You should send them the copies of the whois and ask for an explanation why the whois of the previous/new owner are different, and what sort of "error" could cause that. This is looking more suspicious, for me.

Thanks stub.
I ask them

What is the Explanation of the system error ?

Example:
Old owner renew it.
Domain not yet expired but auctioned
And other.

Best regards


Utomo


Lets wait what is their reply.
If we tell that the who is different, they will use other excuse.
But if they say old owner renew it. I will give this data. and ask are you sure ?

 

[surprise]

So that info is the new owner right?

Because here is an old Whois info that I found



I am wondering if the New owner is really the old owner? And not someone who just wanted your domain Hhmmmm

If that's true then its scary , its about the concept not about a specific domain , i'm pretty sure many readers are considering other registrars after that "incident" !

:td:

 

[Dave_Z]

So that info is the new owner right?

Because here is an old Whois info that I found



I am wondering if the New owner is really the old owner? And not someone who just wanted your domain Hhmmmm

The expiration date of that record shows 2011, though. If anyone has a DomainTools account or similar, is there any record between 2011 to 2013?

 

[Ms Domainer]

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Be careful before you jump to conclusions.

That old whois entry is from about 2010, so it's possible that the new whois entry (Ghanma) has owned the domain since 2011.

You would need to find Whois from 2011 onward.

Oops! Just repeated Dave Zan.

I must sound like an echo.



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[utomo]

this is the latest reply:

Support Staff Response
Dear Utomo,

Thank you for contacting Online Support

I understand you won an auction and it was canceled. In order to resolve this issue we will need to review or change account specific settings. Please reply with your 4 digit PIN that you created when you first setup your account. The PIN verifies that we are speaking to the account owner or someone who has permission to speak on the account owners behalf. We appreciate your understanding in this matter.

To view your PIN:

• log into your account.
• Click "Settings" from the My Account menu
• Click the link for "Account Security Settings"
• The PIN number will show on the lower right hand side of the page.

As I value your feedback regarding my service, please take a moment to complete the short survey linked at the bottom of this email.

Regards,

Kurt P.
Online Support


What they are trying to do ?
wasting my time or making me stop emailing them asking for the explanation ?
or they want more time to think what is best reason they can give to me ?

 

[NPer]

this is the latest reply:

Support Staff Response
Dear Utomo,

Thank you for contacting Online Support

I understand you won an auction and it was canceled. In order to resolve this issue we will need to review or change account specific settings. Please reply with your 4 digit PIN that you created when you first setup your account. The PIN verifies that we are speaking to the account owner or someone who has permission to speak on the account owners behalf. We appreciate your understanding in this matter.

To view your PIN:

• log into your account.
• Click "Settings" from the My Account menu
• Click the link for "Account Security Settings"
• The PIN number will show on the lower right hand side of the page.

As I value your feedback regarding my service, please take a moment to complete the short survey linked at the bottom of this email.

Regards,

Kurt P.
Online Support


What they are trying to do ?
wasting my time or making me stop emailing them asking for the explanation ?
or they want more time to think what is best reason they can give to me ?

They usually verify the owner of the account by the PIN. This is especially true if you are calling in... which the only way I ever make contact with my rep. I don't use email to sort out issues.

But I guess it wouldn't hurt to mail the pin to him. Seems like he is keen to look into the matter.

 

[utomo]

They usually verify the owner of the account by the PIN. This is especially true if you are calling in... which the only way I ever make contact with my rep. I don't use email to sort out issues.

But I guess it wouldn't hurt to mail the pin to him. Seems like he is keen to look into the matter.

I already give them.
But why they did not ask before.
and just now they ask, after more than one week ?

 

[Name Trader]

They are probably just giving you the runaround, and you will get some innocuous response.

 

[discobull]

https://auctions.godaddy.com/

0il dot com currently in the most active section...

Do these people know what they're bidding on??

It looks like it's probably bid fraud to me.

 

[utomo]

They are probably just giving you the runaround, and you will get some innocuous response.

Yes. this is latest response. again same things

Your support request is being reviewed


Due to its complex nature, your issue has been relayed to our Advanced Technical Support Team. Our most skilled technicians will be working to resolve your issue quickly and completely. You will be notified promptly upon resolution.

This is your Incident ID: 20946189

Thanks,
GoDaddy

 

[utomo]

Latest reply make me more confuse. After i giving the pin.
What do you think ?


Support Staff Response
Dear Utomo,

****At this time we have provided all the available information*for you*regarding this transaction.**Until you are willing to move forward with the resolution we already presented,*we will consider this matter closed and will no longer respond to inquiries regarding this issue.*

Regards,
Jason
Aftermarket Support Lead.