GoDaddy Auctions -- Discussion, Acquisitions, and Sales

[Ms Domainer]

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I searched the forum and could not find a thread dedicated solely to Godaddy auctions, which seem to be heating up lately.

I envision this thread as a place for discussion regarding YOUR sales and acquisitions, and general discussion about the auction venue itself, and, perhaps, some domain oddities that are popping up on the auction site, for example, high-priced domains that should be regfee.



One caveat, though: for your own good, PLEASE do not reveal your auction win (or anyone else's, for that matter) until the domain has landed in your account because the original owner still has the option to renew it, and I know how vexing that can be. In other words, don't count your chickens until they're hatched.

On the other hand, if you're having second thoughts about your auction win, by all means tell us all about it.

I suppose that if an auction win is high profile, it's already out there, but, still...

Anyway, I'll start with three comments:

1. I won my first (and maybe last) intentional typo, and it's getting clicks (no $ so far, though): Forwx.com. I could not find a live TM on this term, but one never knows. I have mixed feelings about this one.

2. I accidentally clicked on a BIN that I didn't want (I wanted the one above it), but I decided to honor the bid anyway. Grrr..., so be careful before hitting the submit button. It's not in my account yet, so I can't really reveal it right now.

3. Currently, there's a weird .co domain at over $9,000, with three bidders duking it out. Again, I don't want to reveal what it is, but if you go to the most active auctions, it's number 1 (as of this posting).​

Mods, I hope this thread is okay.



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[merdeka]

This is godaddy reply
Our support staff has responded to your request, details of which are described below:

"... During the redemption period, as described in the Domain Name Registration Agreement, the original registrant has the right to reclaim the Expired Domain Name.."

don does mean is registry redemption period (after domain pulling back to registry). so theoretically, former registrant still could renew domain 75 days after expiration date. i had said, it is the tricky part of godaddy expired auction.
back to 2009, i had a same situation with utomo's situation.

 

[utomo]

don does mean is registry redemption period (after domain pulling back to registry). so theoretically, former registrant still could renew domain 75 days after expiration date. i had said, it is the tricky part of godaddy expired auction.
back to 2009, i had a same situation with utomo's situation.

Do you have same situation with me? How many days after transaction complete ?
What is the solution at that time ?

So, what is the meaning of transaction complete ?
Godaddy must change the name to transaction NOT Yet complete.

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@lennco - GoDaddy Auctions already look like $hit. If they can't tell you what the exceptions are, they are not being open about their process, because that means they can do whatever they please whenever they please and label it an exception. Which means "transaction complete" has no solid meaning. Which means there is no protection for buyers, whatsoever. That's $hit.

According to last reply from godaddy. The previous owner renew it in 45 days period.
In our calculation, that period is over.

And godaddy must change the transaction complete to transaction NOT Yet complete

 

[lennco]

@lennco - GoDaddy Auctions already look like $hit. If they can't tell you what the exceptions are, they are not being open about their process, because that means they can do whatever they please whenever they please and label it an exception. Which means "transaction complete" has no solid meaning. Which means there is no protection for buyers, whatsoever. That's $hit.

This is why it must be brought out into the open and out of the shadows.

I have sold domains the moment I got them and if they were to pull this crap and screw me up with a buyer then I would be screaming from the top of the hills, youtube vids, forums, letting known domain bloggers know about it, and so on.
And that is what it takes sometimes, domainers need to be vocal about stuff like this.

 

[utomo]

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I have posted this on Go Daddy's Facebook page:



I don't know if it will help, but I thought I'd try.

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I can not see your comment on Godaddy facebook. It look like they do the moderation on wall post.
can you see my comment on godaddy facebook ?

please use the comment on other post/ thread. Thank you

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This is why it must be brought out into the open and out of the shadows.

I have sold domains the moment I got them and if they were to pull this crap and screw me up with a buyer then I would be screaming from the top of the hills, youtube vids, forums, letting known domain bloggers know about it, and so on.
And that is what it takes sometimes, domainers need to be vocal about stuff like this.

Yes we need to make noise about this.
we did not know if later we got another problem like this and the domain is very good. or we already sold it and then we can not deliver it because of unknown reason like this.
come on guys lets work together and make better future.

 

[surprise]

don does mean is registry redemption period (after domain pulling back to registry). so theoretically, former registrant still could renew domain 75 days after expiration date. i had said, it is the tricky part of godaddy expired auction.
back to 2009, i had a same situation with utomo's situation.

That could be true if the domain was deleted and returned to the registry , and wasn't transferred to another registrant .

"If your domain name is deleted, the Registry also provides a 30-day Redemption Grace Period during which you may pay Go Daddy a redemption fee and redeem your domain name ..."

 

[utomo]

That could be true if the domain was deleted and returned to the registry , and wasn't transferred to another registrant .

"If your domain name is deleted, the Registry also provides a 30-day Redemption Grace Period during which you may pay Go Daddy a redemption fee and redeem your domain name ..."

The domain is Not deleted.
If the domain deleted, the start date is new.

please check the whois.

 

[surprise]

So is it 42 days or 45 ? The redemption period is 30 days after the 12 days period , i don't know from where everyone bring this 45 number , anyway the quoted link above in utomo's post was : "Last Revised: October 18, 2013" !!

http://www.godaddy.com/agreements/showdoc.aspx?pageid=dna_member

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The domain is Not deleted.
If the domain deleted, the start date is new.

please check the whois.

I understand ...

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It appears that the previous owner was trying to renew the domain at the day 42 at the last minute , ofcourse Godaddy needs sometime to contact you , they wont contact you the same minute the previous owner renews his domain ...

 

[utomo]

So is it 42 days or 45 ? The redemption period is 30 days after the 12 days period , i don't know from where everyone bring this 45 number , anyway the quoted link above in utomo's post was : "Last Revised: October 18, 2013" !!

http://www.godaddy.com/agreements/showdoc.aspx?pageid=dna_member

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I understand ...

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It appears that the previous owner was trying to renew the domain at the day 42 at the last minute , ofcourse Godaddy needs sometime to contact you , they wouldn't contact you the same minute the previous owner renews his domain ...

http://who.godaddy.com/whois.aspx?domain=islamdaily.com&prog_id=GoDaddy

Domain Name: ISLAMDAILY.COM
Registrar URL: http://www.wildwestdomains.com
Updated Date: 2013-10-17 15:15:28
Creation Date: 2000-08-31 00:44:56

http://www.timeanddate.com/date/durationresult.html?d1=31&m1=08&y1=2013&d2=17&m2=10&y2=2013&ti=on

From and including: Saturday, 31 August 2013
To and including: Thursday, 17 October 2013

Result: 48 days
It is 48 days from the start date to the end date, end date included
Or 1 month, 18 days including the end date.

and they have system to let us know, if the old owner renew it.
This happened to me when I already pay the domain, but still before the transaction complete.
I can not complain that, because it still not yet 45 days/ not yet transaction complete.

But this case already more than 45 days.
Transaction complete on 13 october/ 44 days.
http://www.timeanddate.com/date/durationresult.html?d1=31&m1=8&y1=2013&d2=13&m2=10&y2=2013&ti=on

From and including: Saturday, 31 August 2013
To and including: Sunday, 13 October 2013

Result: 44 days
It is 44 days from the start date to the end date, end date included

 

[surprise]

http://who.godaddy.com/whois.aspx?domain=islamdaily.com&prog_id=GoDaddy

Domain Name: ISLAMDAILY.COM
Registrar URL: http://www.wildwestdomains.com
Updated Date: 2013-10-17 15:15:28
Creation Date: 2000-08-31 00:44:56

http://www.timeanddate.com/date/durationresult.html?d1=31&m1=08&y1=2013&d2=17&m2=10&y2=2013&ti=on

From and including: Saturday, 31 August 2013
To and including: Thursday, 17 October 2013

Result: 48 days
It is 48 days from the start date to the end date, end date included
Or 1 month, 18 days including the end date

Updated at 17th Oct , why ? it should be transferred to you earlier than that , you can update or change the contacts and still get this "updated at 17/10" so when it was updated is meaningless ...

 

[equity78]

From the interview I did with Paul Nicks last year, our own Ms.Domainer asked a question in the comments and Paul replied back.

So, Paul, exactly, what is the absolute final day that the original registrant can renew the name?

Is it day 45?

Since you release the domain to the winner on day 42, isn't possible that the original registrant could still renew the domain, even though the winner may be using it?

Some Namepro members have complained that auction domains have been taken away AFTER being awarded to them.

Thanks for any clarity on this.

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Posted by: Ms Domainer | 08/03/2012 at 10:26 AM



Posted by: Paul Nicks | 08/03/2012 at 12:54 PM

Ms Domainer, re: the 42/45 day question:

Good question and one that I sincerely hope I can clarify. First, I'll underscore a point I made in the interview, we created the system to give our registrants the ability to keep or redeem their name as long as possible. With that as the backdrop, hopefully the following explanation will make more sense.

For many TLDs we are given a grace period of up to 45 days after expiration to decide whether to keep or drop a domain. On the 25th day after expiration, after three attempts to contact the registrant, we put our expiring inventory onto the Go Daddy Auctions platform to see if any of our other customers are interested in acquiring them. During the entire time a domain is at auction the current registrant is able to redeem that domain, albeit for a fee.

On the 42nd day we will cancel the domain name if no other customer has expressed an interest in it via either the auction system or a Go Daddy backorder. If, however, a customer has expressed an interest via either of these platforms we will move the domain to their account on day 43. Since the domain is still in the Go Daddy ecosystem we do allow, in rare circumstances, the original registrant to get the domain back via our redemption system up until day 45 which signifies the end of the grace period.

Our help documentation (http://support.godaddy.com/help/art...s-for-handling-expired-domain-names?locale=en) specifies day 42 for deletion because our registrants need to understand that if they do not redeem prior to that date they could lose their domain forever. However, we will continue to err on the side of the registrant when it comes to the edge cases where a domain owner calls asking whether they can get their domain back after day 42.

I hope that helps ease any confusion around this topic.

-Paul

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I should say Paul Nicks has told me at least 25 times, We will always err on the side of the previous registrant and give them every opportunity to keep their domain.

 

[surprise]

Complete mess !

 

[utomo]

Lets say Godaddy move on day 42 or 43 to new account.
Godaddy contact me 7 days after that.

It already over the 45 days limit. It is 49 or 50 days.
so Godaddy must not take the domain.
My friend say they also get same problem as me. and it is one week after the transaction complete.
same as my case.
and then the domain set privacy protect. so we did not know if it is own by old owner or sold to someone else or own by godaddy

 

[equity78]

The one major flaw on the part of Go Daddy imo is that not everyone reads my blog or belongs to Namepros.

The info on Go Daddy says day 42, you have to be in the community here to know the 45 day stuff. That's not good for other customers.

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I will tell you I did call Paul Nicks on the phone last week as he was leaving for travel to let him know about this auction and issue. Its an important issue, the fact they offered a free 2 year registration tells me it was not the normal deal we see when they take back a domain after its renewed.

 

[utomo]

The one major flaw on the part of Go Daddy imo is that not everyone reads my blog or belongs to Namepros.

The info on Go Daddy says day 42, you have to be in the community here to know the 45 day stuff. That's not good for other customers.

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I will tell you I did call Paul Nicks on the phone last week as he was leaving for travel to let him know about this auction and issue. Its an important issue, the fact they offered a free 2 year registration tells me it was not the normal deal we see when they take back a domain after its renewed.

Everybody, please read Godaddy email:

This is to inform you that the domain name ISLAMDAILY.COM was awarded to your account in error. Due to the error, we will be returning the domain to the original registrant and will refund you for the purchase. We do apologize for any inconvenience this misunderstanding may have caused

But what is the error ?

 

[surprise]

Lets say Godaddy move on day 42 or 43 to new account.
Godaddy contact me 7 days after that.

It already over the 45 days limit. It is 49 or 50 days.
so Godaddy must not take the domain.
My friend say they also get same problem as me. and it is one week after the transaction complete.
same as my case.
and then the domain set privacy protect. so we did not know if it is own by old owner or sold to someone else or own by godaddy

Agree in your case its even beyond the 45 days deadline , maybe one of the bidders contacted the previous owner and made a deal , so in reality the dead line is not 45 it could be 48 or 50 depends on godaddy's mood and who is the previous owner and what is the domain in question ...

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Everybody, please read Godaddy email:

This is to inform you that the domain name ISLAMDAILY.COM was awarded to your account in error. Due to the error, we will be returning the domain to the original registrant and will refund you for the purchase. We do apologize for any inconvenience this misunderstanding may have caused

But what is the error ?

Maybe the previous owner did renew the domain on time , and godaddy moved the domain to your account by mistake , anything is possible ....

 

[merdeka]

From the interview I did with Paul Nicks last year, our own Ms.Domainer asked a question in the comments and Paul replied back.

So, Paul, exactly, what is the absolute final day that the original registrant can renew the name?

Is it day 45?

Since you release the domain to the winner on day 42, isn't possible that the original registrant could still renew the domain, even though the winner may be using it?

Some Namepro members have complained that auction domains have been taken away AFTER being awarded to them.

Thanks for any clarity on this.

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Posted by: Ms Domainer | 08/03/2012 at 10:26 AM



Posted by: Paul Nicks | 08/03/2012 at 12:54 PM

Ms Domainer, re: the 42/45 day question:

Good question and one that I sincerely hope I can clarify. First, I'll underscore a point I made in the interview, we created the system to give our registrants the ability to keep or redeem their name as long as possible. With that as the backdrop, hopefully the following explanation will make more sense.

For many TLDs we are given a grace period of up to 45 days after expiration to decide whether to keep or drop a domain. On the 25th day after expiration, after three attempts to contact the registrant, we put our expiring inventory onto the Go Daddy Auctions platform to see if any of our other customers are interested in acquiring them. During the entire time a domain is at auction the current registrant is able to redeem that domain, albeit for a fee.

On the 42nd day we will cancel the domain name if no other customer has expressed an interest in it via either the auction system or a Go Daddy backorder. If, however, a customer has expressed an interest via either of these platforms we will move the domain to their account on day 43. Since the domain is still in the Go Daddy ecosystem we do allow, in rare circumstances, the original registrant to get the domain back via our redemption system up until day 45 which signifies the end of the grace period.

Our help documentation (http://support.godaddy.com/help/art...s-for-handling-expired-domain-names?locale=en) specifies day 42 for deletion because our registrants need to understand that if they do not redeem prior to that date they could lose their domain forever. However, we will continue to err on the side of the registrant when it comes to the edge cases where a domain owner calls asking whether they can get their domain back after day 42.

I hope that helps ease any confusion around this topic.

-Paul

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I should say Paul Nicks has told me at least 25 times, We will always err on the side of the previous registrant and give them every opportunity to keep their domain.

let we think in the former registrant side; the registrant only abide to domain registration agreement, former registrant not related to domain auction agreement. referring to godaddy domain registration agreement section 2B, former registrant could still renew their domain 72 days after expiration date which the domain in pending delete status .
godaddy fault is they only give 42/45 days for auction time. but godaddy has anticipate if something goes wrong, e.g. complain from the winner of auction, godaddy will use domain auction agreement & tos to handle the complaint.

 

[surprise]

let we think in the former registrant side; the registrant only abide to domain registration agreement, former registrant not related to domain auction agreement. referring to godaddy domain registration agreement section 2B, former registrant could still renew their domain 72 days after expiration date which the domain in pending delete status .
godaddy fault is they only give 42/45 days for auction time. but godaddy has anticipate if something goes wrong, e.g. complain from the winner of auction, godaddy will use domain auction agreement & tos to handle the complaint.

If it was deleted and returned to the registry , but if it wasn't then it is not 72 days ... according to that agreement Godaddy has the right to delete or transfer the domain to a new registrant on the behalf of the previous owner during the grace period , so if it was deleted and returned to the registry then yes you can go ahead and try to renew the domain during that period , but if it was transferred to a new registrant good luck trying to get back your domain ....

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If you do not redeem your domain name prior to the end of the 30-day redemption period Go Daddy may, in its sole discretion, delete your domain name or transfer it to another registrant on your behalf.

If your domain name is deleted, the Registry also provides a 30-day Redemption Grace Period during which you may pay Go Daddy a redemption fee and redeem your domain name ...

 

[merdeka]

If it was deleted and returned to the registry , but if it wasn't then it is not 72 days ... according to that agreement Godaddy has the right to delete or transfer the domain to a new registrant on the behalf of the previous owner during the grace period , so if it was deleted and returned to the registry then yes you can go ahead and try to renew the domain during that period , but if it was transferred to a new registrant good luck trying to get back your domain ....

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If you do not redeem your domain name prior to the end of the 30-day redemption period Go Daddy may, in its sole discretion, delete your domain name or transfer it to another registrant on your behalf.

If your domain name is deleted, the Registry also provides a 30-day Redemption Grace Period during which you may pay Go Daddy a redemption fee and redeem your domain name ...

something i want to say here is, according to utomo's situation i'm not pretty sure if the former owner renewed the domain, godaddy could use the agreement & tos to handle utomo's complaint.

 

[utomo]

something i want to say here is, according to utomo's situation i'm not pretty sure if the former owner renewed the domain, godaddy could use the agreement & tos to handle utomo's complaint.

Please read godaddy staff/ don reply.
He say days 45.
Days 45 already over.
If it is renew, why godaddy say there is error. Why they did not say being renew ?

Quote:

The Auctions Membership Agreement (http://www.godaddy.com/agreements/sh...eid=dna_member), section 6, specifically, reflects that original registrant has the right to redeem the domain.

it states, "From time to time, Go Daddy may list domain names which have entered into an expiration period for their original registration (“Expired Domain Names”). Expired Domain Names will be clearly marked on the site. These Expired Domain Names may be listed on the Site on the date of their expiration, however, no sale will be final until forty-five (45) days after the date of expiration. During the redemption period, as described in the Domain Name Registration Agreement, the original registrant has the right to reclaim the Expired Domain Name.."

 

[utomo]

Latest reply from godaddy:

Due to its complex nature, your issue has been relayed to our Advanced Technical Support Team. Our most skilled technicians will be working to resolve your issue quickly and completely. You will be notified promptly upon resolution.

This is your Incident ID: 20839581

Thanks,
GoDaddy