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* Offer applies to new Transfer-In request initiated from a valid registrar to Network Solutions by 10/1/2017. This offer is valid only for .com, .net, .org, .info, and .biz domain names. Offer applies only to transfer in service fees, not domain name registrations or renewals. Purchase of the transfer service does not guarantee that the transfer will be successful.
 
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I doubt they will be able to collect anything for domains already transferred pursuant to this deal but I'm sure they are trying to block any pending transfers. In short - a mess, that I am now definitely glad I didn't get mixed up in.

Shakib Khan who started this thread I am sure had the best intentions and we all went into it with our eyes open, so can't blame anyone.
 
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I doubt they will be able to collect anything for domains already transferred pursuant to this deal but I'm sure they are trying to block any pending transfers. In short - a mess, that I am now definitely glad I didn't get mixed up in.

Shakib Khan who started this thread I am sure had the best intentions and we all went into it with our eyes open, so can't blame anyone.

yes. its my understandng that to block the pending orders was the very reason they disabled some/most/all accnts for past few days.. til today... its weird cause a much easier solution than this would have been to just disable the coupon. as I said before, they had plenty chances to do it, cause many people were calling about coupon, asking if okay to use it, or how it works, or confirm its free etc... so its impossible to say they were not aware of existence of this coupon. which I guess sometimes for some promos, could be true.. that they simply aren't aware of a coupon and the issues it may be causing to the company.
clearly wasn't the case here.

probably the worst and messiest promo I ever saw since I domain.

but your right about original poster.. cause if there are no personal interests in making a thing like this public, then the only conclusion is that it was simply a well intentioned friendly nice gesture... that sadly just ended up doing more harm than good.
 
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does they will continue lock the account next? I have received the transfer confirmation mail of all my domains today, but I'm worried if they will continue perform the block action in future...
 
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mind you, I completely agree with NS that it was illegal to share this coupon to begin with.
"Illegal"? That's ridiculous. Coupon sharing is expected shopper behavior. That's why retailers and other businesses put specific restrictions on coupons and promotions. NetSol has obviously handled this horribly.

The codes have been abused, yes, and the result has already turned ugly. I doubt actual fraud can be proven here in a court of law, or even be worth pursuing.

Where's our resident lawyer?
 
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Was there any 'free transfer' offer ... ever in domaining history?

::this wet dream is about to become a nightmare::
 
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I had received their email when I initiated the transfers.

I received Pending FOA emails for remaining 4 domains 8 hours ago, confirmed it and now domain are completed transfer. Only 18 domains left with "In Progress" status.
 
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Slow & Steady everything looks good so far
 
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14 left on pending completion status.
All of the rest are completed.
 
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Can anyone confirm if domain remains in pendingTransfer state for 5 days, and losing registrar does nothing, will domain complete transfer or gets rejected?

I asked this because I transferred some of my register.it domains but I didn't receive any confirmation emails, by approving those domain transfers happen with hour. Since this time I didn't receive email it should be transferred after 5 days. Isn't it?
 
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Was there any 'free transfer' offer ... ever in domaining history?
This question refreshed my memory. Yes, there was. From Network Solutions. In 2005 or so, maybe +/- a couple of years. Must have been similar to this one, however I do not remember exactly all the Terms-Conditions. What I remember is a bunch of (paper!) renewal reminders from Network Solutions, which they sent to by regular mail (and, in my case, international mail) so I must have used it for domains that I had no intention to renew, a logical decision also for good old times
 
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Was there any 'free transfer' offer ... ever in domaining history?

::this wet dream is about to become a nightmare::
for limited number, yes.
for unlimited(in theory), this is the first one as far as i know
 
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Can anyone confirm if domain remains in pendingTransfer state for 5 days, and losing registrar does nothing, will domain complete transfer or gets rejected?

I asked this because I transferred some of my register.it domains but I didn't receive any confirmation emails, by approving those domain transfers happen with hour. Since this time I didn't receive email it should be transferred after 5 days. Isn't it?
Wait more 2 days and see.
One of my domain was took about 8 days to transfer.
 
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Can anyone confirm if domain remains in pendingTransfer state for 5 days, and losing registrar does nothing, will domain complete transfer or gets rejected?

I asked this because I transferred some of my register.it domains but I didn't receive any confirmation emails, by approving those domain transfers happen with hour. Since this time I didn't receive email it should be transferred after 5 days. Isn't it?

Mine completed transfer at day 5.
AND I did not receive the coupon, and they cancelled every incomplete transfer in my transfer manager including these, so I was quite surprised that they actually did complete.

The domains in question DID show "PendingTransfer" in updated whois
 
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Was there any 'free transfer' offer ... ever in domaining history?

LCN did a totally free transfer LIMIT ONE that was completely legit (long expired)
https://www.namepros.com/threads/free-com-net-or-org-domain-transfer-at-lcn.1024611/

Plenty more that were super cheap, Rebel did them for 99 Cents

No other offers were unlimited though.

@tonyk2000 - the previous NetSol free offer 2003 - http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=198611

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Since this offer attracted so many new members, everyone is invited to the official Transfer Deals thread : smile :
https://www.namepros.com/threads/8-...scounts-for-com-transfer-renewal-only.985708/
 
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"Illegal"? That's ridiculous. Coupon sharing is expected shopper behavior. That's why retailers and other businesses put specific restrictions on coupons and promotions. NetSol has obviously handled this horribly.

The codes have been abused, yes, and the result has already turned ugly. I doubt actual fraud can be proven here in a court of law, or even be worth pursuing.

Where's our resident lawyer?

No it's not "illegal" - obviously. Illegal implies criminal law and slapping the cuffs on you.

This whole matter is basically contract law. A valid contract must consist of an offer, that is accepted, with consideration ("something of value") changing hands.

But, a business has a right to make terms and conditions for its offers, however the terms and conditions must be made clear. There is a classic case from 1892, Carlill v. Carbolic Smoke Ball Company, still studied to this day by first year law students, where a company published advertisements in newspapers claiming that it would pay a hundred pounds sterling (an enormous sum in those days) to anyone who got sick with influenza after using their "smoke ball" cold remedy. Well, one lady used the smoke ball, got the flu anyway, and tried to collect the £100., claiming that the advertisement created a binding contract (with offer, acceptance, and consideration) between her and the company. The company refused to pay, arguing that it was not a serious contract. The company also argued that it would be ridiculous to assume that the offer was open to the whole world.

Long story short, this smoke ball case wound up going all the way up the courts until it was decided definitively that this offer was binding for anyone who bought the product. The court held that this offer was not open to the whole world, but only to anyone who actually bought the product, which buying the smoke ball product constituted acceptance of the offer, and the consideration was the price paid for the product. The lady won her case, and collected her hundred quid.

This old case (and countless newer ones) stands for the proposition that if you make an offer, even to the general public, and they take you up on it and money or some sort of consideration changes hands, then you are bound to perform.

Now, if the company NSOL here is able to establish that this "offer" was limited only to the people they emailed the coupon to, and again, there might need to be some terms on the coupon that clarify this restriction, then I think they'd have a good case for rejecting any offers (rejecting orders) that came from those who did not receive the coupon via email. By rejecting orders, I mean straight from the gate, not processing or accepting the orders at all.

HOWEVER, I do believe that once NSOL accepts the orders for any domain transfers, that a contract has been completed and I do not believe they would have a leg to stand on for stopping the domain transfers. We'd have offer (the coupon), acceptance (placement of the order), and consideration (in this case, not money, since it was free, but, a promise to do something - transfer the domain and add a year to the registration expiration date - equals consideration).

In other words, my analysis of all this, is that NSOL MAY have had the right to reject the use of the coupons at the time that the orders were placed, if they were being used by people who had not received the offer. Once the orders were accepted I think that legally they were bound to perform: Especially, if the coupons do not clarify that they are good only for the specific recipient.

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As as far as NSOL's trying to collect monies from people who already had their domains transferred free, I think they have no legal case at all, for all of the above reasons. (Already a done deal.)
 
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These wee the terms of the promotion email:


*Offer applies to new Transfer-In request initiated from a valid registrar to Network Solutions by 10/1/2017. This offer is valid only for .com, .net, .org, .info, and .biz domain names. Offer applies only to transfer in service fees, not domain name registrations or renewals. Purchase of the transfer service does not guarantee that the transfer will be successful.
 
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Yes I read those terms. Say nothing about being limited only to the recipient.
 
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The classic promo that went too far cost Hoover £48m in free flights, in fact now a lot of companies use agencies to run promos which provide insurance against extreme takeup of offers - they are supposed to think carefully before launch.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/3704669.stm

When Hoover's free flights promotion was launched to a wide-eyed British public in August 1992, it seemed too good to be true. Over the next 21 months, many Hoover customers discovered it was.

About 220,000 people did eventually fly with Hoover
Originally intended to shift a backlog of vacuum cleaners and washing machines gathering dust in Hoover's warehouse, it ended up costing the company £48m and dragging their name through the dirt.
 
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No it's not "illegal" - obviously. Illegal implies criminal law and slapping the cuffs on you.

This whole matter is basically contract law. A valid contract must consist of an offer, that is accepted, with consideration ("something of value") changing hands.

But, a business has a right to make terms and conditions for its offers, however the terms and conditions must be made clear. There is a classic case from 1892, Carlill v. Carbolic Smoke Ball Company, still studied to this day by first year law students, where a company published advertisements in newspapers claiming that it would pay a hundred pounds sterling (an enormous sum in those days) to anyone who got sick with influenza after using their "smoke ball" cold remedy. Well, one lady used the smoke ball, got the flu anyway, and tried to collect the £100., claiming that the advertisement created a binding contract (with offer, acceptance, and consideration) between her and the company. The company refused to pay, arguing that it was not a serious contract. The company also argued that it would be ridiculous to assume that the offer was open to the whole world.

Long story short, this smoke ball case wound up going all the way up the courts until it was decided definitively that this offer was binding for anyone who bought the product. The court held that this offer was not open to the whole world, but only to anyone who actually bought the product, which buying the smoke ball product constituted acceptance of the offer, and the consideration was the price paid for the product. The lady won her case, and collected her hundred quid.

This old case (and countless newer ones) stands for the proposition that if you make an offer, even to the general public, and they take you up on it and money or some sort of consideration changes hands, then you are bound to perform.

Now, if the company NSOL here is able to establish that this "offer" was limited only to the people they emailed the coupon to, and again, there might need to be some terms on the coupon that clarify this restriction, then I think they'd have a good case for rejecting any offers (rejecting orders) that came from those who did not receive the coupon via email. By rejecting orders, I mean straight from the gate, not processing or accepting the orders at all.

HOWEVER, I do believe that once NSOL accepts the orders for any domain transfers, that a contract has been completed and I do not believe they would have a leg to stand on for stopping the domain transfers. We'd have offer (the coupon), acceptance (placement of the order), and consideration (in this case, not money, since it was free, but, a promise to do something - transfer the domain and add a year to the registration expiration date - equals consideration).

In other words, my analysis of all this, is that NSOL MAY have had the right to reject the use of the coupons at the time that the orders were placed, if they were being used by people who had not received the offer. Once the orders were accepted I think that legally they were bound to perform: Especially, if the coupons do not clarify that they are good only for the specific recipient.

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As as far as NSOL's trying to collect monies from people who already had their domains transferred free, I think they have no legal case at all, for all of the above reasons. (Already a done deal.)


all the transfers are legal as it was not said that these were supposed to be for some users,
Let me tell you the logic...
If you put money and say every one can take, so every one will of-course take it, but if you put money in locked doors and say every one can take it, than again every one will try to take it but when people come to locked door will find a guard asking them to show some permission.
They put the money and also said it is free, but did not put the guard or any check..
It is simple as it is...
 
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Transferred about 170 domains, 35 just gone through, total 128 domains completed.

20 domains are still "In Progress". Don't know what will happen to them, all of these 20 domains are at netfirms.com.

Here is a reply I got after 3 days:

Dear User,

Thank you for contacting Network Solutions, a Web.com Company. We are committed to creating the best Customer experience possible. One of the first ways we can demonstrate our commitment to this goal is to quickly and efficiently handle your recent request.

We apologize for the inconvenience regarding the transfers. To prevent a spike in fraud and abuse associated with this offer, we have initiated a more thorough screening process causing a slight delay with the transfer process.

We hope this update has been helpful. However, if you have any additional questions, please don't hesitate to contact our Customer Service Department. To reach us call, 1-800-333-7680. If you are calling from outside the U.S. or Canada , please call 1-570-708-8788.

Sincerely,
Rodger
Net Solutions Specialist
Network Solutions, a Web.com Company
 
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If they have Promotional Insurance or OverRedemption insurance this won't actually cost them

http://www.worldwidespecialrisks.co.uk/overredemption/

Over Redemption Insurance or Fixed Fee Solutions can be used to limit the financial liability associated with a Sales Promotion. Money-off Coupons, Trial Offers, 2 for 1 and other promotional sales incentives are a great way to encourage sales.

Unfortunately the better the marketing idea and the more successful your promotional offer is, the more expensive the cost will be. Over Redemption Insurance enables you to fix your marketing budget, without the risk of a huge outlay if it over redeems beyond your expectations.

In return for an insurance premium we accept the risk of any redemptions that occur over a trigger point, agreed prior to the start of the sales incentive. You can then enjoy a successful promotion with having to watch your marketing budget disappear!
 
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Strangly I got the following reply
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Thank you for contacting Network Solutions. We are here to ensure that you are happy with our services. Let's get started in helping you with your request.


I have reviewed the matter based on the information provided. Currently there is not enough information to to locate your profile in our system. Please provide a domain name that is in your account so we can locate your profile. At this point in time i am also not able to find your name in our system.
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Now I sent one of my domain, I also send them my username and email id.

It is really very bad from them.
 
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Strangly I got the following reply
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Thank you for contacting Network Solutions. We are here to ensure that you are happy with our services. Let's get started in helping you with your request.


I have reviewed the matter based on the information provided. Currently there is not enough information to to locate your profile in our system. Please provide a domain name that is in your account so we can locate your profile. At this point in time i am also not able to find your name in our system.
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Now I sent one of my domain, I also send them my username and email id.

It is really very bad from them.
It's funny how you say it is bad for them, as you are not interested in being a long term customer, just using their promo, and moving on.

NetSol is not interested in the domainer portion of the business, they want the small business who buys those expensive upgrades.

Why is it bad, because you are going to take your business elsewhere, they already know you are going to do this. I am guessing the promo was only sent to select people, I never got one, and I have about 50 domains there. If someone did 200 transfers, that is like almost $2,000, a lot to absorb given there is not much margin on .com registrations.
 
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It's funny how you say it is bad for them, as you are not interested in being a long term customer, just using their promo, and moving on.

NetSol is not interested in the domainer portion of the business, they want the small business who buys those expensive upgrades.

Why is it bad, because you are going to take your business elsewhere, they already know you are going to do this. I am guessing the promo was only sent to select people, I never got one, and I have about 50 domains there. If someone did 200 transfers, that is like almost $2,000, a lot to absorb given there is not much margin on .com registrations.
come on, why did they allow me to tranfer these than..??????
Dont speak like you are living in 1900,,,,
you answer is same as theirs.....

I said bad because, they allowed me to transfer domains, and after if they say they could not find my account,
what you call them,, of-course cheaters and bad
 
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come on, why did they allow me to tranfer these than..??????
Dont speak like you are living in 1900,,,,
you answer is same as theirs.....

I said bad because, they allowed me to transfer domains, and after if they say they could not find my account,
what you call them,, of-course cheaters and bad
They can't find your account, probably because it is not in active status, and suspended.

They probably got hit with a whole bunch of transfers, and they had to put the active transfer accounts on hold to stop the hemoraging of cash that each multiple transaction was causing them.

This reminds me of the godaddy groupon fiasco.

At the end of the day, network solutions has to bear the burden, as they didn't close that loop hole, but they are going to take their sweet time of figuring out what went wrong, and account holders are going to have to deal with it.

I think the saying is there is no free lunch.
 
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