Even a blind chicken can find a great domain!

[MapleDots]

On namePros most of us are familiar with a famous domainer that spent an entire night hand registering domains only to see them sell for millions of dollars. The domainer continues his streak and today is one of the most successful domainers on the planet.

Seems to me some businesses like Huge Domains are very much copying this process by registering millions of domains and hoping a percentage of them will resell at a profit. The difference here being that Huge Domains mostly registered dropped domains figuring eventually someone else will want them.

In German there is an expression.....

"Auch ein blindes Huhn findet mal ein Korn."

Loosely translated to english it means....

"Even a blind chicken sometimes finds a piece of corn"

The question here is can this be repeated in 2019?

So if someone decided to randomly sit 10 people down and hand register any combination of two word .com's could one conceivably have a successful business?

My opinion on this is that one probably could as long as the selling price of the domains stayed in the 2-4k range. Two word .com's are still very much in demand and chances of success are probably pretty good.

So what do my fellow domainers think?

Any successful blind chickens out there?

 

[JayT]

I sell hang reg all the time. What you want to know, 10 reg'd 3 years ago and what gets renewed? Probably 70% of my .coms I am keeping though 3 years so far.

 

[boker]

Then there are the ones who know how to pick the names - the other side of the coin so to speak.

https://domaingang.com/domain-news/...d-made-almost-forty-grand-with-these-domains/

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So, two hand reg domains for $20 in 2011, add 8 years of renewal each. If you count the commissions and taxes paid for the 38k or so and is you ad the thousands or tens of thousand of his hand regs from the same period that did not sold, you will conclude that it's nothing out of ordinary. I can bet that there are lots of smaller domainers here at NP who have better ROI than him, but everything it's at a smaller scale, so it's not that evident.

 

[mambo]

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On namePros most of us are familiar with a famous domainer that spent an entire night hand registering domains only to see them sell for millions of dollars. The domainer continues his streak and today is one of the most successful domainers on the planet.

Seems to me some businesses like Huge Domains are very much copying this process by registering millions of domains and hoping a percentage of them will resell at a profit. The difference here being that Huge Domains mostly registered dropped domains figuring eventually someone else will want them.

In German there is an expression.....

"Auch ein blindes Huhn findet mal ein Korn."

Loosely translated to english it means....

"Even a blind chicken sometimes finds a piece of corn"

The question here is can this be repeated in 2019?

So if someone decided to randomly sit 10 people down and hand register any combination of two word .com's could one conceivably have a successful business?

My opinion on this is that one probably could as long as the selling price of the domains stayed in the 2-4k range. Two word .com's are still very much in demand and chances of success are probably pretty good.

So what do my fellow domainers think?

Any successful blind chickens out there?

can this be repeated in 2019?

the problem we doesn't know its underground game, i am new to this business but have other online business.

nothing is reported

 

[NYJimbo]

Let's not forget the majority of us who "hand reg" are really buying domains that have died and are on expire lists. I think most of us don't wake up one morning and think up most of our hand regs.

This is why I jokingly refer to myself as a "Domain Re-Animator". I pick through the domain "grave yard" and "re-animate" dead names into the living.

Hopefully some turn into MON$TER$ !!!

 

[Bob Hawkes]

It is true that it seems the vast majority of new hand regs are not truly new. Now when I look at a hand-reg one thing I check is NTs Whois and surprised how many have been registered and dropped multiple times.

While the fact some domains were not let drop means something re quality, I don't think much. I think it has more to do with domain investment style of owner.

I am also amazed how much domainer to domsiner traffic. On NB about 10x as many sales under $100 as above.

I think a true work of art domain with high value is remarkably rare.

Bob

 

[Ostrados]

The problem is not if it is possible to sell hand reg domains or not, yes it is possible, the problem is that it is not economically profitable! it is not a good business model to follow.

Statistically, hand reg domains have much lower chance to sell, and thus if you adopt hand registration as a strategy, they you will need to compensate with high quantity, and high quantity will increase the renewal costs and make it very hard to make any profits.

Think about it in terms of Quality vs Quantity, lets do a comparison which is more profitable.

Lets say:

• selling chance of a hand reg is 0.2% per year
• selling chance of a high quality domains is 2% per year.
• You will need 10 hand reg domains : for each 1 high quality domain. And thus you will need 500 hand reg domains VS 50 high quality domain to sell 1 domain per year.
• Lets assume average sale value is $2,500 per domain
• Lets assume you sell only 1 domain per year

Hand Reg Domains:

• Acquisition cost for 500 domains = 500*$9 = $4,500
• Renewal cost for 500 domains = 500*$9 = $4,500 per year
• Sales per year (1 domain) = $2,500

5 years forecast:
Total Spending: $4,500 + $4,500 x 5 = $27,000
Total Revenue = $2,500 x 5 = $12,500
Income = $12,500 - $27,000 = -$14,500 (loss)​

High Quality Domains:

Lets assume the average acquisition (closeouts, auctions..etc) is $100 per domain then:

• Acquisition cost for 50 domains = 50*$100 = $5,000
• Renewal cost for 50 domains = 50*$9 = $450 per year
• Sales per year (1 domain) = $2500

5 years forecast:
Total Spending = $5,000 + $450 x 5 = $7,250
Total Revenue = $2,500 x 5 = $12,500
Income = $12,500 - $7,250 = $5,250 (profit)​

 

[JayT]

1 domain out of 500 isn't 2%
EDIT: Why even compare 500 to 50? Over-complicating!

 

[Ostrados]

1 domain out of 500 isn't 2%
EDIT: Why even compare 500 to 50? Over-complicating!

I said 0.2% not 2% please check

500 hand reg domains with 0.2% selling chance => 1 domain per year
50 High quality domains with 2% selling chance => 1 domain per year

 

[JayT]

You are doing silly math saying it takes 50 domains to sell 2% or 500 is .2. The point isn't how many you have.

 

[Ostrados]

You are doing silly math saying it takes 50 domains to sell 2% or 500 is .2. The point isn't how many you have.

It seems you don't understand the silly math

Edit: The point is that you need 500 hand reg domains to sell 1 domain per year VS only 50 high quality domains to sell 1 domain per year.

 

[JayT]

I don't assume paying $80 for a domain is 10x more likely to sell than a hand reg.

 

[HotKey]

Blindness and incompetence have nothing to do with one another. Blindness is a challenge, incompetence is a choice. Chickens and domains, on the other hand, I think we may be on to something here:

chicken.domains
chickendomains.com

both avail at chicken feed pricing..

Unfortunately, chicken.coop which would be the ultimate, has already been cooked up.

 

[JayT]

It seems you don't understand the silly math

Edit: The point is that you need 500 hand reg domains to sell 1 domain per year VS only 50 high quality domains to sell 1 domain per year.

How do I reg about 40 a year and sell a couple via inbound and you're comparing selling 1 out of 500? That's seems an unrealistically terrible rate to me.

EDIT: like to add, this thread is about HAND-REG, IE: not paying up for all these 'quality' domains you try to promote.

 

[Recons.Com]

If you are selective with hand regs, you still can have 0.5%-2% depending on your skills, time spent, patience, where listed and how etc. If there is certain randomness to the choice, then the probability could probably drop to 0.1%-0.2% or even lower, which should cause you incur losses, unless you are operating with NS multiple accounts and $1/name promo.

 

[JayT]

If I were to buy domains on aftermarket i'd expect to pay more than $100 anyways. I know domains can be bought there, but I think there's a lot more money to be made in domains that range $500-$2000, to get down to the nitty-gritty, he wants to throw words like 'statistically' around, we can debate all day.

 

[Recons.Com]

If I were to buy domains on aftermarket i'd expect to pay more than $100 anyways. I know domains can be bought there, but I think there's a lot more money to be made in domains that range $500-$2000, to get down to the nitty-gritty, he wants to throw words like 'statistically' around, we can debate all day.

You seem to struggle with basic math. He said "average $100". So, if you are buying in closeouts + auctions, you can have a great mix of names there.

You buy 20 names at $13.5 ($5 closeout) + 10 names at $19.5 ($11 closeout) + 10x$60 (auctions, but cheap in $21 to $100 range roughly), then you still have around $4130 for 10 name at average of $400+

 

[JB Lions]

Here is another great domainer,

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I would rather see actual sales from him on these type of domains he has hand regged, instead of blanket motivational posts.

Then there are the ones who know how to pick the names - the other side of the coin so to speak.

https://domaingang.com/domain-news/...d-made-almost-forty-grand-with-these-domains/

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These are actually easy to figure out if you do simple Google checks. They're usually .com names of companies.

AnchorTrading.com could be anchortradinguae.com

https://www.google.com/search?clien...0..0.90.90.1......0....1..gws-wiz.ALo-pxvC5uY

InfraBuild.com could be infrabuildcement.co.za

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=InfraBuild

So basically you're just looking for company names in .com that are on different extensions. Get enough of those, you're going to hit on some. Those are a lot of his sales that get reported.

 

[JayT]

No you struggle, if you say 50 domains that will ultimately result in a $5k investment, of course the average is going to be $100. I never said that isn't true, so why quotation that? His numbers are all unrealistic, He error to $9 renewal cost even! He's biased in all calculations and very confused in the asumptions. A hand reg is just as likely to sell for as big of profit as ANY domain. Why even compare it? This thread is about hand-reg and he has a MO to derail and promote buying on platforms (and I will 'assume' .com only too).

 

[Ostrados]

How do I reg about 40 a year and sell a couple via inbound and you're comparing selling 1 out of 500? That's seems an unrealistically terrible rate to me.

EDIT: like to add, this thread is about HAND-REG, IE: not paying up for all these 'quality' domains you try to promote.

Wow so your selling rate for hand reg domains is 2/40 = 5%
That is unrealistically high, higher than selling rate for any pro domainer here, are you sure you are telling the truth? or you are just trying to win a silly argument.

Oh btw I would like to just ignore you because your comments are uneducated (no offense).
thanks

 

[JayT]

Again, OP posted and pointed out this was about being successful doing handreg. You come post a bunch of jibberish, unrealistic rates and assumptions to promote NOT HAND REG. you are working against us along with recons now.