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Even a blind chicken can find a great domain!

Located in General Domain Discussion started by MapleDots, Apr 20, 2019.

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  1. zeev yagorov

    zeev yagorov New Member

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    i order to make it big you must have high quality domains very simple and it sound so simple yet in reality, if you check what people hold , you understand why they are not have sells, and if you have really top 2 word domain and you price it high it will take time but you will see bids also.

    i am only 2 weeks in this and was also was thinking this and that great until i get to the point i know what to hold period, and its hard to understand because some one hold 4 word or 3 word domain and and think wow...

    for example --CertifiedDomainNameBrokers.com its to much long and when you look on the browser its very messy and alot of 3 letter domains dont worth so much-- if we compare to what reported you will not find one domain 3 letter domain, fact not theory.
     
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  2. Recons.Com

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    Bulloney?
     
  3. Bob Hawkes

    Bob Hawkes formerly MetBob NameTalent Gold Account VIP Trusted Blogger

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    And would only be available to a registered Coop in any case :xf.grin:
    I car share with a company using a .coop, I insure with a company on a .coop domain name, I could bank with one too! But chickens, no! :xf.cool:
     
  4. MapleDots

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  5. xynames

    xynames XYNames.com PRO VIP

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    Yes but from this, and other, threads
    https://www.namepros.com/threads/mi...-domains-up-for-sale-with-bin-prices.1053164/
    there has been considerable debate as to whether such a move was even wise, or profitable.

    There was also discussion about how Ali Zandi's move to reg 4600 domains at once ended in a net loss.
    https://www.thedomains.com/2017/04/19/ali-zandi-regged-4600-domains-com-promotion/
    he regged 4600. and sold almost none. Some on there posted that Zandi was lying or inaccurate about making back even 50%, and in any case according to the comments and based on the lack of follow up by Zandi, the move ended in failure.

    See the posts below. Take a look Omar VG I believe is a NP member he "follows" Ali Zandi a bit, he knows the true score.

    All that glitters isn't gold!

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    The below are not my posts, but are comments you will find below the above article:

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    Abi says

    DECEMBER 1, 2017 AT 11:31 AM

    AliZandi let almost all of these 4600 domains go without making a dime. He’s a manic who thinks that the few flashes in the pan he was successful with buying low and selling high mean that he knows something others don’t.

    Now all he does is broker because his domain picker is broken.

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  6. HotKey

    HotKey Made in Canada VIP

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  7. Recons.Com

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    So are chicken domains better than pigeon domains? ) Or the same class? )
     
  8. Ostrados

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  9. MapleDots

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    Yes but I mentioned Mann in a round about way in the first post.

    He has one of the best record with hand registrations.
     
  10. MapleDots

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    Pigeons.. he he, that would be the king.
     
  11. HotKey

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    Well, at least chickens can't fly, and the only $hit I get on my windshield is from pigeons. Tough call..
     
  12. Recons.Com

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    No one truly knows his record. He chooses to disclose only large sales and the reported ones add up to a fraction of the renewal costs for his portfolio.

    He already has 320 000+ names, adding up to renewals around $2.5MM and he needs to sell 1000 names at $2.5K each just to breakeven, which would be about 0.3% sell through. Anything above that is profit. And I assume he does sell 0.6%-1% annually.
     
  13. zeev yagorov

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    i also think that Zandi something fishy about him
     
  14. Recons.Com

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    I'd say pigeon domains can work great for mail services, so that is an edge...
     
  15. HotKey

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    I think having name like the "Mann" can't hurt in driving sales, as well..

    We can say a quality name sells itself. But the brand behind the name, plays a large part in many instances.
     
  16. JayT

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    I have pigeonpoacher.com
    The cheapest renewal cost is $8.03 at cloudflare.
     
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  17. xynames

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    This would tend to mean that anything you've bought in recent years, has not yet sold. Your only sales are from domains bought very long ago.

    Which is my situation as well, more or less, in that most of my sales are from domains bought long ago.

    BUT the key difference for me...is that I am not buying much if any domains in the past year or two.
     
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  18. Jv1999

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    I'm curious about your sale rate for $8 domains bought years ago! Every1 on this thread keeps saying the sail rate for $8 domains is 0.2% yearly :D :D :D :D.

    It's more like 1 - 2%? That was my experience with 200ish domains for 2 years. And that's including the fact that i was completely noob and reggae'd things like metaldoorknob//com and noodless//com

    I had a theory that the yearly sail rate for hand reggae is 1% (mabye 2 if you're good :tightlyclosedeyes: ) but, that over 5+ years, the overall rate is close to 50%? Is that how it is with your $8 domains bought years ago?
     
  19. bmugford

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    I don't understand how a 1% yearly turnover rate would all of a sudden ramp up to 50% over 5 years.

    Unless you have an amazing domain that is grossly underpriced, or are very proactive, hardly any domain has a 50% chance to sell over 5 years.

    Brad
     
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  20. Jv1999

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    Well, my theory hinges on buying $8 that you know for sure will sail SOMETIME. Doesn't have to be this year.

    So like, if GreyFox//com was available and you got it for $8, you're not sure if it will sail this year or next... But it's a great brandable, so you're sure it will sail SOMEDAY.

    So imagine if you had 100 GreyFoxes... then overall, your % won't be 1 or 2%, but 50 - 100%...

    But I guess most people are buying $8: TimeUpCube or something like that, which they're not sure will sail or not.

    But i figure xynames had bought $8 names like GreyFox, that he was sure would find a buyer sometime in the future.
     
  21. bmugford

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    Right, but domains like GreyFox.com are not available to hand register and really haven't been for 15-20+ years now. So that is not really a good comparison in my view.

    Obviously brands like that have value. That is the reason at auction it would go for thousands reseller.

    The average hand reg quality though is much, much, much lower quality that that example domain.

    The only way you can get a 50% passive sell through rate is having an amazing domain that is underpriced.

    You could also argue many domains hand regged today are less likely to sell over time, not more likely.
    They certainly are not going to scale from 1% to 50% over 5 years.

    Brad
     
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  22. Jv1999

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    I disagree :).

    So i'm looking through list right now. GreyFox is like SadBirds... and sadbirds is available!

    SadBirds might sound bad, but AngryBirds became a popular videogame, so maybe SadBirds too?

    I also got GreenActiv for $1!

    So I believe GreyFoxes are still tehre... LOL unless you think that these two examples don't look like GreyFox, then I'm dead ~_~
     
  23. xynames

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    A hand reg, dropped domain, or domain acquired for $100. or so from 2002 is not the same as a hand reg, dropped domain, or domain acquired for $100. or so from today.

    Nothing I do may be duplicated, besides my winning good looks, you'd also need a time machine to go back to when XYNames acquired most of its domains.

    All I have to add to this thread is that: I don't acquire many domains any longer. Beyond that, nothing much to add to suggestions for the process.
     
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  24. bmugford

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    Lol. There is absolutely no comparison between an amazing brand like Grey Fox and Sad Birds.
    The pool of potential buyers for a domain like Grey Fox is very deep.

    Brad
     
  25. Jv1999

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    Well, it's true, if you look at end users. But I meant like, in theory, for the long run--sadbirds sounds like someone somewhere would want it for over 1k. I mean, I can't honestly see it being available in the next 10 years. <-- and that was the point :D.

    But yes, if you look at it technical-wise, then GreyFox has more end users than sadbirds.

    And xynames said his 2002 hand reggae is no match for 2019... so that probably means he has dictionaries and two-words like BigBox :/

    I guess I'll never know if my theory makes sense~~
     

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