seven said:
This is a great example of not getting it from the enduser perspective. But sometimes domainers don't get it either. Works both ways.
very well said!
i'm in domaining not much(almoust one year) and what i have learn i learned
(how much,i think some thinks i have learn good but 1000 thinks still to learn but some basic knowledge i have learned,definately i have more knowledge then somebody that have nothing to do with domaining
) on this forum and i can tell you this from my opinion:
why would a end-user(company) pay high money for a domain?
-because your domain have good keywords?
-because it have traffic?
-because it is a well search term?
-etc....
but all this good and great characteristics that have a domain...
you know,other domainers know the value and importation of why a good domain is a good domain...we know...domainer know...and here comes the problem:
the potencial end user don't know these thinks and what will improve his business!!!
the only chance(i think) is to explain a end user why is important to have a good(yours) domain
-i think most companies have not the xxxx or higher budget to buy a domain or when they have you still must offer then a really good domain in this range because if this is a company with a site(or more) they allready know why is important to get a good domain for future or today projects and you have a chance with a good domain to make money,but number of companies that have big budget is not high every sale would be a big success.
-a little company(maybe 5-15 employers) have no need and money for a domain in xxxx range because simple:it is still a small company with not big budget and for this company even to sell a domain in xxx range would be a success:they can take there names for there sites or in best case name+keyword but still it would be in regfee range,and you must accept this fact that this kind of companies simple have no need and money for a xxx or xxxx domain
-then we have the companies that are not so little,we can call them:small companies(15+employers) and they have money and budget,but not so high(xxxx and higher),if you take this companies you have the biggest chance to sell a domain in xxx range but explain also why it be good that they have your domain...but xxxx...very hard...
to sell a domain to a little company and ask for xxxx and higher would be very very very hard,because they have no need,no money on the start
to sell a domain to a small company in xxx range,there is some good chance
if you can explain why your domain is good(they have the xxx to spend but are not so willing and shinning about the idea to give xxx for a simple domain because these xxx are also a weight to they budget
and you will must show skills to sell to these companies(presenting and selling),but don't expect mega sales(xxxx or higher),but still the best chances to sell and make profit in my opinion
to sell a domain to a big company,small chances but with the right domain,possible
look this all from there eyes and forget what you know about domaining(you must do this)
i'm a company...my company have the name "ronald01"
if i'm a little company to sell me a domain in xxx$ range would be zero because:
-i have not much money
-i allready spend a xx-xxx to let make my website(i know that you will say:somebody that makes you the site will suggest that buy a good domain,
yes of course but my response from the start would be: "no thanks,i have not the money know" or "for the beggining i take x domain,later maybe i will buy a better name","for the start i think ronald01 is a good name for my website
(look from end user angle)" etc...
if i'm a small company and have the xxx for a domain that could improve my business you would have the biggest chances to sell me your domain and like a company i would not more invest then xxx or in really best case low xxxx,
but if you have arguments and tell me why my business would be better:
yes i would buy
if i'm a big company i have two choises:
i allready have a site(domain) or sites that i have payed high...no need for improvement(except that company will go for more and more)...very little chance that you sell me your domain
i allready have a site(domain) but it's time to make a bigger network etc...
chances are good that you sell me your domain because i have money and the will to buy a good domain for my future projects(i would hire a firm a domain broker firm to get me a good domain)but i can do this also later or sooner,it is not my priority,but you still have chances
etc...
my point is:
many companies don't know why a domain is good or not or why domains can bring improvement to there business...and then we close the circle:
we must tell them
and the best chances for a domainer is to sell more domains in xxx range
and be focused on small companies( like member 24hourdomainer or other members does,
making more sells in low-mid xxx and this way of making profit is a good way to make money,sounds very good and reasonable to me,
personally i haven't sold any domain to a end user because IMO i'm not ready for this kind of selling(i'm still reading from all expirion members and try to learn from all members) but in few mounth i will try when i think the time is right or maybe still the best chance for me is to take a much more expirion member with more knowledge and let him brokerage your domain,
@robfer is a successful domainer,have maked a lot of sales and i can only tell this :
we can't blame the end users why they not get it(every end user have they reason and if we look from there sides it will be more acceptable) , we can only try to tell them why it is important that they buy our domain and make a sale...
some end users don't get it because they have no need or money to get it
or
if they are on the right way to get it we must try harder explain to them that they get it
our advance i think is the knowledge why a good domain is important for somebodies companies and with this we can try to explain end users why is
important to buy a domain:to get it.
i'm talking theoritically without practice(end user sale) but end users will get it when there are in opportunity to get it(depend from many factors:need to get it,money to get it,etc...) and so it goes in circle and i believe that whas earlier years also(maybe it was easier for domainer to let the end user "get it") but hard days are coming and they will not "get it",we must tell them to make them that they "get it",in future days it will be harder but of course possible...
they don't get it because we don't get it that many factors(knowledge,need,money...) are required to make
them getting it(and this factors today have a higher standard then in earlier times),for as to sell,for them to buy,and in this
hard times we must try harder to make them to "get it"
end user job is not to"get it" because they don't "get it" from many reasons,our job is to explain and make them to "get it"
@robfer
you have make the end users "get it" houndreds of time,days are coming where we must try harder to "get them",the rules are the same like earlier years(i think) but the line to get them(get it=sale) is on higher limit and
you will "get them"...harder then ussualy...but you will get them.
p.s.sorry for this really long post,i'm not native english speaker and it was not easy to write so much but this is my opinion why they don't "get it"
regards
Ron
