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I bought a 3 .us domains from a member here - they were registered in June, bought them in August.

Today I received email grom Godaddy that they were removed from my account and whois shows "Repossessed by Go Daddy"

Still waiting for a word from them.

I searched Google and it seams that it happens when there are problem with a payment - e.g. chargeback. But it's been been almost 4 months, I don't think you can do chargeback after that many days?...

What other reason could it be?....

Other domains are fine just those 3 are gone...
 
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Err, well technically no ;) but I don't know how after years of owning .us domains at different registrars they finally figured out I don't have US citizenship.
I doubt they really care.

Email only stated:
Item cancellation confirmation
Dear xxx

This notice is to inform you that the items listed below have been deleted from your xxx account:

(...)

If you feel this action has occurred in error or you need further assistance, our support staff is available 24 hours a day, 7 days a week:

No "due to false info blah blah..." or asking for proof of citizenship.

I was instructed to email - [email protected], I guess it has something to do with a "credit card"?...
 
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offer to pay godaddy the registration fees if you want the domains.

and try to get your money back from the seller..
 
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I still don't know why they were deleted - but no way I will pay for them again, especially since they were quite crappy (I bought them for tests) and I only paid $1 each.
 
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you still could be a victim of Neustar spot check.

non-eligible person can own .US domains for years with no consequences.
but sometimes they got hit with random Whois checks leading to domain cancellation etc


imho
 
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But you can be US citizen and live elsewhere, don't you?
And wouldn't they point that out in the email?...
It's just weird - to delete domains without any explanation... :td:
 
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By registering .us domains, you were playing with fire, and now it looks as though you just got burned.

Your best best is to get in touch with support and find out why your domains were repossessed. If they cite Nexus rules, there just isn't much you can do about this, given that you "technically" have no right to own .us domains.

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Unless they are extremely stellar names then you really haven't lost much
as the .US itself is a dead-end, IMO. Even US Residents as a whole have
essentially failed to embrace the .US extension.

It's simple really, either you physically call GD [no email reply] to resolve
the issue, or just cut your $3 loss & move on knowing your 'tests' revealed
that you should stay clear of .US names in the future.

Additionally, a simple google search for the email addy you received from
GD may help shed some light on the subject. After some brief reading it
seems the reason for repossession could be one of many. Best of luck.




I still don't know why they were deleted - but no way I will pay for them again, especially since they were quite crappy (I bought them for tests) and I only paid $1 each.

As for the seller - I have suspicion he might have something to do with it but I need confirmation...
 
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Yup, I'm not really that much concerned about it. Mostly annoyed by GD's "shoot first, don't bother asking questions or giving any explanation"

Phone call would cost me more then they are worth :lol: - I guess I'll wait for email from them - 8 hour and counting...
 
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Last time I remember you don't actually have to be a US citizen to own a .US domain, just that you do frequent business with US Citizens unless that clause has been changed since I last had looked at the rules. Correct me if I'm wrong.
 
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Last time I remember you don't actually have to be a US citizen to own a .US domain, just that you do frequent business with US Citizens unless that clause has been changed since I last had looked at the rules. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Registrants in the usTLD must be either:

1.A natural person (i) who is a United States citizen, (ii) who is a permanent resident of the United States of America or any of its possessions or territories, or (iii) whose primary place of domicile is in the United States of America or any of its possessions [Nexus Category 1],

2.A United States entity or organization that is (i) incorporated within one of the fifty (50) U.S. states, the District of Columbia, or any of the United States possessions or territories, or (ii) organized or otherwise constituted under the laws of a state of the United States of America, the District of Columbia or any of its possessions or territories (including a federal, state, or local government of the United States or a political subdivision thereof, and non-commercial organizations based in the United States) [Nexus Category 2], or

3.A foreign entity or organization that has a bona fide presence in the United States of America or any of its possessions or territories [Nexus Category 3].

Prospective Registrants will certify that they have a โ€œbona fide presence in the United Statesโ€ on the basis of real and substantial lawful connections with, or lawful activities in, the United States of America. This requirement is intended to ensure that only those individuals or organizations that have a substantive lawful connection to the United States are permitted to register for usTLD domain names.

It shall be a continuing requirement that all usTLD domain name Registrants remain in compliance with Nexus. To implement the Nexus requirement, NeuStar will:

Require that Registrars certify that they enforce the Nexus requirement upon their Registrants, and that Registrars require Registrants to certify tha t they meet the Nexus requirement.
Conduct a scan of selected registration request information.
Conduct โ€œspot checksโ€ on Registrant information.

Information Collected From Registrants
To register a name, Registrants (through their Registrars) will be required to provide basic registration information to the Registry. The minimum required information is:

The domain name registered;
The IP address and corresponding names of the primary and secondary name servers for the registered name;
The Registrar name and URL or, where appropriate, the identity of the delegated manager under whom the name is registered;
The original creation date and term of the registration;
The name and postal address of the domain name Registrant;
The name, postal address, e-mail address, voice telephone number, and (where available)fax number of the name holder for the name registered;
The name, postal address, e- mail address, voice telephone number, and (where available) fax number of the technical contact for the name registered; and
The name, postal address, e- mail address, voice telephone number, and (where available) fax number of the administrative contact for the name registered.

In addition to the above information, Registrants will be required to provide certain additional Nexus information to their Registrars. Except where it is noted below that a registration will be rejected if information is missing, failure of a registration to satisfy the Nexus requirement will result in the name being placed upon a 30-day hold, during which time the Registrar will be
notified and given the opportunity to correct the information with the Registrant. If no action is taken by the Registrar within the 30-day period, the registration will be cancelled and the name will be returned to โ€œavailableโ€ status. The registration fee will not be refunded. If, on the other hand, the Registrar is able to demonstrate compliance with the requirement and the information
is corrected, the hold will be released and the name will be registered.

Certification that Registrant satisfies Nexus requirement โ€“ if not completed, then
registration will be rejected;
Basis for compliance (Nexus Category 1, 2, or 3) โ€“ if not completed, then registration will
be rejected
Certification that the listed name servers are located within the United States โ€“ if not
completed, then registration will be rejected

Nexus Category 1
A natural person (i) who is a United States citizen, (ii) who is a permanent resident of the United States of America or any of its possessions or territories, or (iii) whose primary place of domicile is in the United States of America or any of its possessions.

Statement of citizenship or legal permanent residency required. If not completed, registration will be rejected.

Nexus Category 2
A United States entity or organization that is (i) incorporated within one of the fifty (50) U.S. states, the District of Columbia, or any of the United States possessions or territories, or (ii) organized or otherwise constituted under the laws of a state of the United States of America, the District of Columbia or any of its possessions or (including a federal, state, or local government
of the United States, or a political subdivision thereof, and non-commercial organizations based in the United States).

Nexus Category 3
A foreign entity or organization that has a bona fide presence in the United States of America or any of its possessions or territories.

Applicant must state country of citizenship.
Applicant must also (1) regularly engage in lawful activities (sales of goods or services or other business, commercial or non-commercial including not-for-profit activities) in the United States; or (2) maintain an office or other property within the United States.

Category 3 Nexus Certification

Prospective Registrants will certify compliance with Category 3 Nexus based upon substantial lawful contacts with, or lawful activities in, the United States.

Factors that should be considered in determining whether an entity or organization has a bona fide presence in the United States shall include, without limitation, whether such prospective usTLD domain name Registrant:

Regularly performs lawful activities within the United States related to the purposes for which the entity or organization is constituted (e.g., selling goods or providing services to customers, conducting regular training activities, attending conferences), provided such activities are not conducted solely or primarily to permit it to register for a usTLD domain name and are lawful under the laws and regulations of the United States and satisfy policies for the usTLD, including policies approved and/or mandated by the DoC;
Maintains an office or other facility in the United States for a lawful business, noncommercial, educational or governmental purpose, and not solely or primarily to permit it to register for a usTLD domain name.
Source: http://www.neustar.us/the-ustld-nexus-requirements/
 
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Last time I remember you don't actually have to be a US citizen to own a .US domain, just that you do frequent business with US Citizens unless that clause has been changed since I last had looked at the rules. Correct me if I'm wrong.

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But you have to be able to prove your business relationship -- and that includes having a business presence IN the U.S. -- and that involves more than just selling a domain or two.


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Added Info:
I reached out to GoDaddy to ask four questions about the repossessed account maintained by the company, and I received a reply from Go Daddyโ€™s Chief Financial Officer Michael Zimmerman (the questions and answers werenโ€™t specific to the domain name in the DomainGang article). Learn about how domain names go into the โ€œRepossessed by GoDaddyโ€ account.
โ€œGo Daddyโ€™s Payment Verification Office reviews every transaction through our system using either an automated or manual review process.

Products and services can be repossessed during this process if a payment is suspected to be fraudulent. In addition, domain names are repossessed when a chargeback is processed on a payment.

If a payment is fradulent or charged back within the first five days after a domain name is purchased, the domain name is returned to the registry.โ€
Read More Source: http://www.domaininvesting.com/information-about-repossessed-by-go-daddy-registrant/

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Other sources of info.:
Godaddy Rep: This typically indicates that the domain name was repossessed from the owner of the domain name. This may happen for a variety of reasons. The domain name would not be available until it is expired and released for public registration.

-Gary
Source: http://support.godaddy.com/groups/d...ces/forum/topic/repossesseddomaingodaddy-com/

NamePros Thread from last year:
http://www.namepros.com/domain-name...possessed-godaddy-anyone-know-what-means.html

Benmi search option to find domains repossessed by godaddy:
http://www.benmi.com/RWhois/lang/en?q=IdhcFFXi5Nx[a]MhxIg[d][a]EMwF[d]VowJdqbf&t=rt&c=1
 
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Come on Godaddy :yell:
suspense is killing me :bah:
 
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It seams like it's not about me or .us extension.
Sales thread is already edited but I checked google cache and domains registered around June 15th - 28th are now repossessed which means that he probably did a chargeback...?
But can you even do that after 4 months?
:-/
I already contacted him so lets see what he has to say.

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Turns out all the domains were originally registered by someone else...
:bah:
And still no word from Godaddy...
:blink:
 
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As I thought :notme:

Support Staff Response
At this time it appears that the purchase has been charged back and the services have been canceled.

Names were registered by "Alejandro":
http://www.DNF/f283/henderson-mobi-various-cheap-net-short-domains-thread-508602.html

If you would like to reactivate these services, they will need to be repurchased in addition to a $50 (USD) chargeback fee per receipt, which is added to the original purchase price.
Wow, that's so generous of you GD :blink:

Please reply with the following information so that we can resolve this matter:
Your approval for the total amount of $61.97 USD.

IIIIIII think I'll pass, thanks. :blink:

Guy I bought them from said he already sold the rest - lucky bastard and unlucky buyers :bah:
 
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Beware Godaddy can take your domain name anytime.

I win Godaddy expired domain on 5 October.
I already pay $ XXX
And the transaction is complete on 13 October.
then suddenly on 18 October Godaddy staff email me

This is to inform you that the domain name ISLAMDAILY.COM was awarded to your account in error. Due to the error, we will be returning the domain to the original registrant and will refund you for the purchase. We do apologize for any inconvenience this misunderstanding may have caused.
I would like to offer a goodwill courtesy gesture, the two year registration of any .com, .net or .org domain name. I am extending this offer as a courtesy for any misunderstanding in this situation. If you would like to accept this courtesy, please feel free to contact me at [email protected] to coordinate this new registration.
Again, we apologize for the inconvenience.

Regards,
Pam Bunn
Domain Services Manager
GoDaddy LLC

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I ask for more info by sending this email:

Hello Pam,
Sorry, I did Not understand this.
I win expired domain, I already pay for it. And it also already pass the waiting time.
And also already transfered to my account.
I can Not accept Your offer.
I hope Godaddy more professional .

Best Regards


Utomo

And Godaddy reply with this:

Dear Utoma,

According to our Universal Terms of Service below we have the right to remove the domain name from your account:
10. ADDITIONAL RESERVATION OF RIGHTS
Go Daddy expressly reserves the right to deny, cancel, terminate, suspend, lock, or modify access to (or control of) any Account or Services (including the right to cancel or transfer any domain name registration) for any reason (as determined by Go Daddy in its sole and absolute discretion), including but not limited to the following: (i) to correct mistakes made by Go Daddy in offering or delivering any Services (including any domain name registration), (ii) to protect the integrity and stability of, and correct mistakes made by, any domain name registry, (iii) to assist with our fraud and abuse detection and prevention efforts, (iv) to comply with court orders against you and/or your domain name or website and applicable local, state, national and international laws, rules and regulations, (v) to comply with requests of law enforcement, including subpoena requests, (vi) to comply with any dispute resolution process, (vii) to defend any legal action or threatened legal action without consideration for whether such legal action or threatened legal action is eventually determined to be with or without merit, or (viii) to avoid any civil or criminal liability on the part of Go Daddy, its officers, directors, employees and agents, as well as Go Daddyโ€™s affiliates, including, but not limited to, instances where you have sued or threatened to sue Go Daddy.
I can either refund you or offer you 2 years registration of any .com, .net or .org domain name, as a courtesy.
Regards,
Pam Bunn
Domain Services Manager
GoDaddy LLC


So it mean:
1. Godaddy can take your domain anytime. without explaining anything.
2. Godaddy offering 2 year domain registration in exchange of we pay $ XXX + renewal Fee.

What do you think ?
 
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Mystery solved, then. And yes, chargebacks can occur after 60 days because of the issuing bank or card company. That's something registrars or other online service providers can hardly do anything about.
 
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Any registrar can actually take back a domain name from its customer. They just won't do it without an arguably valid, material reason (arguably, of course, because it's subject to debate).

Did you specifically ask Go Daddy why the error, though? For instance: did Go Daddy say they didn't process the previous registrant's renewal payment like they should have?

I'm also curious: is the amount of the offered two-year registration almost equal, greater, or less than what you paid during the auction? I'm just trying to understand everything.
 
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